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Coopsjc21 #1 Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:22 PM

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Hi

Is there anything fancy about the T-50 (tier V light) armour?

 

I spotted one on Steppes, in that centre bit where scouts rush to, he was side on to me so I shot him with AP round from St Emil (stock gun, 169mm pen, 300 dmg) but he blocked/bounced it?! 

 

I checked, T-50 has 37mm side armour. Even if RNG and luck were trolling me surely I should've penned him? I'm certain I didn't hit his track and after the battle I checked, it said in results he blocked 300 damage.



wremise #2 Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:26 PM

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Have you clearly hit the side armour? Or has you hit the front or [edited]- armour at an really bad angle?

An other solution would be, that you have hit the track area



Nethraniel #3 Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:32 PM

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Only possibility I see, if it was a hull hit, this one:



Coopsjc21 #4 Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:36 PM

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View PostNethraniel, on 25 May 2018 - 02:32 PM, said:

Only possibility I see, if it was a hull hit, this one:

 

Effective armour still only 61mm though?

 

Ill see if I have the replay and have a look. 

 

If I hit the track but didn't damage it, would it register as a block of 300 dmg?



Balc0ra #5 Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:36 PM

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Flat side, you would auto pen anywhere with the stock gun. But if the angle is too big. His 37mm will toss your 10.5cm shell if the impact angle is bigger then 70 degrees. As anything over 35mm does that. So if you hit the upper front plate from the side, it can bounce right off it. Or even the turret cheeks if he had that turned towards you.

 

 

 



Nethraniel #6 Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:39 PM

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View PostCoopsjc21, on 25 May 2018 - 02:36 PM, said:

 

Effective armour still only 61mm though?

 

Ill see if I have the replay and have a look. 

 

If I hit the track but didn't damage it, would it register as a block of 300 dmg?

 

As you can see in the screenshot of mine, it is an ricochet angle. Does not matter if the armor is thin.

Coopsjc21 #7 Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:46 PM

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I'm not sure where his turret was facing, there was a bush in the way, I just saw the outline of the side of his tank and it appeared to be fairly flat on in front of me.

 

I think the round hit toward the front of left side hull.

 

I guess I was just unlucky, as is often the case in that fkn St Emil. Christ I hate that thing. Was playing Karelia on assault, defending team, I got spotted while at the back of our spawn and was promptly one-shotted by arty in less than a minute of starting. 20k til top gun.


Edited by Coopsjc21, 25 May 2018 - 05:13 PM.


Coopsjc21 #8 Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:47 PM

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View PostNethraniel, on 25 May 2018 - 02:39 PM, said:

 

As you can see in the screenshot of mine, it is an ricochet angle. Does not matter if the armor is thin.

 

Ok thanks. That screenshot..  that's pretty much how he was positioned. 

 

I got the [edited]with a second shot though, so all ok. 



Balc0ra #9 Posted 25 May 2018 - 02:50 PM

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View PostCoopsjc21, on 25 May 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

I guess I was just unlucky, as is often the case in that fkn At Emil. Christ I hate that thing. Was playing Karelia on assault, defending team, I got spotted while at the back of our spawn and was promptly one-shotted by arty in less than a minute of starting. 20k til top gun.

 

Stock grind on that one is terrible. And on a low roll the pen dops to 126mm. And that's not good even as top tier at times. So it will troll you badly vs most targets. 

 

Tho the top gun is worth it tho. I personally like the TD. I know many hate it. But the top gun is just so satisfying on that tier. 

 

View PostCoopsjc21, on 25 May 2018 - 02:36 PM, said:

 

Effective armour still only 61mm though?

 

Ill see if I have the replay and have a look. 

 

If I hit the track but didn't damage it, would it register as a block of 300 dmg?

 

As pointed out in mine and his response. You can't overmatch anything higher then 35mm with a 105mm gun. So if the impact angle is 70 degrees with your gun vs 37mm. It will bounce right off. Even if the effective armor is lower then your pen. It can't dig in to the armor if you will to pen it when the angle is too great. 

Edited by Balc0ra, 25 May 2018 - 02:51 PM.


_Sensation_ #10 Posted 25 May 2018 - 03:35 PM

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You probably did a critical hit. Everyone has it and its [edited]annoying. Shooting AP in a deathstar at the side of a batchat.... 'critical hit' go fk yourself wg

etody77 #11 Posted 25 May 2018 - 04:47 PM

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The russian LT's are the only LT's tat can bounce sometimes, 

spuff #12 Posted 25 May 2018 - 10:19 PM

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T-50-2’s tracks were notorious for absorbing any calibre shell so I’m guessing the T-50’s are very similar!

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View PostCoopsjc21, on 25 May 2018 - 02:22 PM, said:

Hi

Is there anything fancy about the T-50 (tier V light) armour?

 

I spotted one on Steppes, in that centre bit where scouts rush to, he was side on to me so I shot him with AP round from St Emil (stock gun, 169mm pen, 300 dmg) but he blocked/bounced it?! 

 

I checked, T-50 has 37mm side armour. Even if RNG and luck were trolling me surely I should've penned him? I'm certain I didn't hit his track and after the battle I checked, it said in results he blocked 300 damage.

Are you familliar with this ?






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