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Aim_Away_From_Face #1 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:23 PM

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The fire power and armour of the tier 2-6 Italian tanks is absolute insane; it highlights a massive problem with current testing systems as the low tiers are never even looked at. 

DracheimFlug #2 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:25 PM

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View PostAim_Away_From_Face, on 25 May 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

The fire power and armour of the tier 2-6 Italian tanks is absolute insane; it highlights a massive problem with current testing systems as the low tiers are never even looked at. 

 

Do you have any evidence of them actually overperforming? Other than just "feels?"

Shaade_Silentpaw #3 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:27 PM

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They're ok.

Tier 5 is absolute trash.



Aim_Away_From_Face #4 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:33 PM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 25 May 2018 - 08:25 PM, said:

 

Do you have any evidence of them actually overperforming? Other than just "feels?"

 

Mainly observation, I see them frequently pulling off bounces and shots that just shouldn't be possible with such regularity. They really are massively overpowered compared to anything else their respective tiers. The tier 4 in particular just rips anything apart with that gun.

Homer_J #5 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:33 PM

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View PostAim_Away_From_Face, on 25 May 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

The fire power and armour of the tier 2-6 Italian tanks is absolute insane; it highlights a massive problem with current testing systems as the low tiers are never even looked at. 

 

I beg to differ.

 

I fell for the previous hype thread about the tier IV.  It didn't live up to expectations.  The tier V has one strength - it can bounce it's own shells.  The V and VI drive more like heavies than mediums.  VI does have a nice gun though when you finally get it aimed and someone doesn't take the gun out while you are waiting for the circle to shrink.



Balc0ra #6 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:34 PM

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View PostAim_Away_From_Face, on 25 May 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

The fire power and armour of the tier 2-6 Italian tanks is absolute insane; it highlights a massive problem with current testing systems as the low tiers are never even looked at. 

 

Must be why WG said a few days ago that old low tiers will be balanced soon. As the past few balance patches, the balance have been on tier 7+. Now it's tier 4 and down that will be looked at. Who knows. The Italians might just be a pointer on how things will be... In terms of guns that is. As even gift tanks of late on tier III have way more pen then most old normal tier III's. Or really old premiums. As before 40 to 55 was "good" pen. Now 60 to 70 have been the norm of late. 

8126Jakobsson #7 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:37 PM

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Don't they dare touch my tier 4 HE slinger (it's fun and I don't feel like advancing on the line). :child: 

Aim_Away_From_Face #8 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:39 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 25 May 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

 

Must be why WG said a few days ago that old low tiers will be balanced soon. As the past few balance patches, the balance have been on tier 7+. Now it's tier 4 and down that will be looked at. Who knows. The Italians might just be a pointer on how things will be... In terms of guns that is. As even gift tanks of late on tier III have way more pen then most old normal tier III's. Or really old premiums. As before 40 to 55 was "good" pen. Now 60 to 70 have been the norm of late. 

 

Good point, with any luck they'll manage it because it used to be fun to go down every now and then. Recently its been a case of play the old stuff and suddenly 'wtf happened to new tanks?'

Ganjalf94 #9 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:42 PM

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Nah, if anything they need a buff

tankqull #10 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:45 PM

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View PostAim_Away_From_Face, on 25 May 2018 - 07:33 PM, said:

 

Mainly observation, I see them frequently pulling off bounces and shots that just shouldn't be possible with such regularity. They really are massively overpowered compared to anything else their respective tiers. The tier 4 in particular just rips anything apart with that gun.

 

its not "that" gun wich is extreamly crappy. its that HE wich has 70mm of penetration wrecking everything below t5 they face.

TungstenHitman #11 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:47 PM

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View Posttankqull, on 25 May 2018 - 07:45 PM, said:

 

its not "that" gun wich is extreamly crappy. its that HE wich has 70mm of penetration wrecking everything below t5 they face.

 

Really? Sounds like fun, must check it out. Bit of low tier drunken seal clubbing's always a blast. Is it Hetzer levels of HE fun?

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I like low tiers but have not so far had any notable success with Italians at tiers 2-4.

Homer_J #13 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:03 PM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 25 May 2018 - 08:47 PM, said:

 

Really? Sounds like fun, must check it out. Bit of low tier drunken seal clubbing's always a blast. Is it Hetzer levels of HE fun?

 

Nope, it relies on penetration rather than sheer brute force, which makes it quite unreliable.  You get trolled by spaced armour, tracks, fence posts.

etody77 #14 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:06 PM

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tier 4 and 5 nice pen for HE

they have strong hull somehow, you can try to angle sometimes, but turret sucks

they have eakspots, learn them

tier 5 could be credit maker with a good crew, but, they are historical accurate tanks: almost wrecks

 they need at least a speed buff






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