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DarkRyu2503 #1 Posted 26 May 2018 - 10:13 AM

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Hey guys!

Since they are on sale right now, I consider buying 1 Tier 8 Premium tank to earn credits faster. I only played the USA and Sowjet line until now and have crews for Heavy / Medium type ready to go. So, is any of the USA / Sowjet tanks on sale right now worth buying? 

I already read the Loewe is quite good, but it's a german Heavy and I dont have any crew for it, should I still consider buying it? How are T34 and IS6 compared to Loewe in terms of credit making? I'm also interested in mediums, but I'm not willing to buy more than 1 premium tank, please help me to choose which one :D



ScanBlu #2 Posted 26 May 2018 - 10:38 AM

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With your current crews and given that you don't have many battles, for now is a safe bet to buy Tier VI U.S.S.R. T-34-85M and stick around T5-T6. And after you reach 4000-5000 battles you can give it a try to a T8 U.S.A. Patriot when on sale or T8 U.S.S.R. Defender (if ever will be sold again).

Edited by ScanBlu, 26 May 2018 - 10:40 AM.


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none!

t8 are not worth being bought in the current MM state.



CheSudaka #4 Posted 26 May 2018 - 10:42 AM

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Want a good advice? Don't!!!!! It's not worth it as long as they don't fix their f¨****d up MM.

Garrano #5 Posted 26 May 2018 - 10:48 AM

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I agree with ScanBlu, T-34-85M is a good tank, makes decent credits and keeps you in lower tiers so you have time to get some more battles and learn more.

 

At Tier 8, T-54 mod.1 is a decent tank, fun to play and a good credit earner.

 



Red_Dragon_Firkraag #6 Posted 26 May 2018 - 11:11 AM

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If you can, wait a bit before you buy a high-tier premium vehicle.

 

Reasons:

  • 2k battles is way too early to obtain one. Learn the basics first. Watch some youtube guides, observe streamers, look at great wot replays, ...
  • The matchmaker, in combination with very extreme powercreep, is screwing over Tier 8
    • Preferential MM tanks (KV-5, IS-6, Mutant, (WZ-)112, Super Pershing, ...) tend to have lower penetration. While you will never meet Tier 10 in these (bear in mind that platooning with a normal Tier 8 or non-PMM T8 premium removes this protection), Tier 9 will be a large chunk of your opponents. You'll even struggle against many same-tier enemies. Wargaming is on the verge to change them to remove PMM from them.
    • Normal Matchmaker tanks (Löwe, T34 (not to be confused with a russian medium tank of the same name), Strv S1, Liberte, Patriot, ...) usually have acceptable penetration values, but you will be very frustrated in the end due to the constant encounter of Tier 10s.

 

If you still want a credit farmer, consider perhaps the Churchill III (Tier 5 russian heavy, It has a low-damage but very high pen and fast reloading gun) which is currently on a good sale.

 

Other options would be the KV-2 R (Russian Heavy, however, that one is overpriced and difficult to handle) or the IS-2 Berlin (Russian Heavy, tier 7, still a bit high in terms of tier). The choice of USA premium heavy tanks is rather currently lackluster.


Edited by Red_Dragon_Firkraag, 26 May 2018 - 11:41 AM.


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Watch this, then make a decision!

 

https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be



DarkRyu2503 #8 Posted 26 May 2018 - 12:38 PM

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Thanks for your advices guys! :)

I will definitely reconsider if I should buy a premium tank or not at the current situation...

But if yes, there are 4 tanks I could narrow down: T34, Loewe, T-54 Mod. 1, M4A1 Revalorise. Which one of them would you choose?

How is T34 vs Loewe and T54 Mod1 vs M4A1 (cuz same price range and same type)?



Red_Dragon_Firkraag #9 Posted 26 May 2018 - 01:36 PM

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T34 is a US heavy tank hulldowner. If you know how to handle the T29 effectively, you should do fine in it. The hull armor is paper for most enemies it meets, though. Of all the four you suggested, this would be the optimal choice if you not only want to make credits but also want to train your US heavy crew (no retraining needed).

 

Crews don't need retraining in premium tanks of the same nation and type to maintain full efficiency of their main skill.

 

The Löwe is a sniper, similar to the Tiger II. You however wouldn't have a crew to train with it.

 

The T54 Mod. 1 is a russian medium tank. While you could train your russian heavy crew in it, you'll suffer a main skill and crew xp penalty in it. Cannot tell much about it and the M4A1 Revalorise though.

 

 



Suurpolskija #10 Posted 26 May 2018 - 02:28 PM

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I have T34 and I've played it quite a bit... however I DO NOT RECOMMEND buying it. It's old premium and struggles in the current meta.

1. It's slow (sloooowww) to the extent you need to think carefully where you can get in time before you'll be intercepted and spotted.

2. Gunhandling is poor. Long aimtime and quite inaccurate gun.

3. Poor hull armor combined with poor speed is a deadly combination when crossing open areas.

Good: Awesome credit maker. Good alpha with 248mm ap penetration. You'll score ~1500dmg most games which gives steady income.

If I was to invest the money again, I'd take Löwe over T34 in a heartbeat. From your list I'd take Revalorise because of the price but with your 2k games I don't think you can make it work for you.

Grab a cheap tier6 first. As suggested the soviet t3485m is solid. HT n.VI or Skoda T40 are good choices too.

Is-2 I don't recommend. At least for me the 175mm pen makes the credit printing tough and the gun is very inaccurate.

 

Edit: also, Löwe isn't a sniper even if it does have accurate gun and can fight from longer ranges. It's got good turret and solid upper front plate. Camping heavy tanks lose games more often than win them. Losing games loses credits. 


Edited by Suurpolskija, 26 May 2018 - 02:31 PM.


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Not the Preferential ones 

VarzA #12 Posted 26 May 2018 - 04:47 PM

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View PostDarkRyu2503, on 26 May 2018 - 10:13 AM, said:

Hey guys!

Since they are on sale right now, I consider buying 1 Tier 8 Premium tank to earn credits faster. I only played the USA and Sowjet line until now and have crews for Heavy / Medium type ready to go. So, is any of the USA / Sowjet tanks on sale right now worth buying? 

I already read the Loewe is quite good, but it's a german Heavy and I dont have any crew for it, should I still consider buying it? How are T34 and IS6 compared to Loewe in terms of credit making? I'm also interested in mediums, but I'm not willing to buy more than 1 premium tank, please help me to choose which one :D

 

T6 - only worth buying the T-34-85M and Type 64 (and the Type 64 imho is better).

T7 - Panther/M10 but it's a bit of a credit hog to play it right

T8 - T-54 mod 1

 

For only credit grinding though, i would go for either T-54 mod 1 or the Revalorise.

 

T-54 mod 1 can double as a heavy if it's top tier, Revalorise has a good alpha, regardless of what it meets, and it trades well .... though the tank is difficult to play right.

 

PS: The only t8 american worth it, imho, is the T25 Pilot 1 and it's not in the tech tree.

And even that one sucks unless you have a good crew in it and know the maps.


Edited by VarzA, 26 May 2018 - 04:52 PM.


Intruder_GCS #13 Posted 26 May 2018 - 05:03 PM

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Nobody should buy a premium tank right now. 

Filling the pockets of this arrogant WG management would be the last thing you should do.

I personally are not going to spend one single euro until they start showing some respect to their paying customers.

When my premium account ends I will deside if I contnue with this game. Shame after all these years, but enough is enough!

Keep your money in your pocket.



CptBackstabber #14 Posted 26 May 2018 - 05:23 PM

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DONT BUY ANYTHING not while there not fixing anything the amount of tanks i have that arnt worth the pixels there made of if u do have to buy something get a t5 as this game in its current state is not worth anymore then 5 pounds spent on it

Gremlin182 #15 Posted 26 May 2018 - 05:42 PM

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View PostDarkRyu2503, on 26 May 2018 - 12:38 PM, said:

Thanks for your advices guys! :)

I will definitely reconsider if I should buy a premium tank or not at the current situation...

But if yes, there are 4 tanks I could narrow down: T34, Loewe, T-54 Mod. 1, M4A1 Revalorise. Which one of them would you choose?

How is T34 vs Loewe and T54 Mod1 vs M4A1 (cuz same price range and same type)?

 

T34 has a great gun plenty of pen great damage lowish rof and it works best hull down as many American heavies do

If they can only see the front of your turret they pretty much have to shoot the cupola.

 

Lowe similar I guess turret is very good hull too from the front but hide that lower plate usual weak spot on German tanks.

Gun very accurate less pen and damage than T34 but dpm about the same.

 

T54mod 1 pretty good medium tank and its armour is decent its also fairly low so camo isnt bad,

 

Revelorise this is all about the gun you have apcr as standard with 200 pen 390 damage and the shell speed is 1400 meaning long range shots and moving targets you do not need to lead that much.

The ammo is also very cheap.

Its disadvantage is its armour basically tier 6 sherman so avoid getting shot where possible.

 

I have all 4 I give the edge to the Lowe over the T34 with the heavies

Picking the best medium is tricky but I think the T54mod 1 is more forgiving and easier to play.

A good player which I am not would probably pick the revelorise.

 

You need to decide which crews you want to train and of course your playstyle.

 

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DarkRyu2503 #16 Posted 26 May 2018 - 06:02 PM

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Thanks a lot for your detailed answers, it helps me a lot! :)

VarzA #17 Posted 26 May 2018 - 06:20 PM

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You could buy gold (2 packs of 5500 gold), get the Revalorise (is on discount right now for 6120 gold), get a 100% crew for it (800 gold), and use some remaining gold to make some free xp, you want to have about 21k free xp (600 gold at present prices).

 

You can use free xp to skill up a character, to a skill/perk, and you need 42k free xp normally to get the 1st skill/perk (210k xp overall otherwise).

However, after a free xp exchange rate sale (like the one right now), WG often has an offer to reduce that to half, for 21k free xp. If you can't wait, use the free xp you have right now and get up to 42k.

The skill you want is 6th sense on the commander, and then start all of the crew on camouflage.

 

Revalorise plays a bit like a TD, in many ways it has a similar playing style with the Skorpion G.

 

If too expensive, get 1 pack of 5500 gold and get the Type 64, totally worth it for the current price, and do the same as above (if you can afford the current 1200 gold price tag for 6th sense on commander).

Type 64 basically plays like the american T21 light, but much faster and with insane view range (and better dpm too).


Edited by VarzA, 26 May 2018 - 06:21 PM.


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View PostDarkRyu2503, on 26 May 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

Thanks for your advices guys! :)

I will definitely reconsider if I should buy a premium tank or not at the current situation...

But if yes, there are 4 tanks I could narrow down: T34, Loewe, T-54 Mod. 1, M4A1 Revalorise. Which one of them would you choose?

How is T34 vs Loewe and T54 Mod1 vs M4A1 (cuz same price range and same type)?

 

i do own the T34 and the ravioli. i would not recommend any of them.

both are slow as [edited], tall like skyscraper making it difficult to hide behind structures quite often wich in case of the T34 is bad but not as worse as in the ravioli with its paper thin armor. on the other hand the T34 is ment to be a hulldown tank, the problem is that most tier 9 and 10 tanks have calibers allowing them to overmatch the turret roofplate ( klickey for overmatch mechanic ) for guaranteed dmg.

the advantage of both is a hihg alpha and quite nice pen and in case of the ravioli awesome shellvelocity wich is in both cases equalized by horrible gunstats.

 

all in all if you really "have" to buy a tier 8 tank wich i still would not recommend it should be one of the "clown" tanks aka patriot, defender,liberte or scopion g for heavies and tds, and the lorreine or the progetto as mediums all other t8 premiums are not in a place to be recommended at all with the current matchmaking mechanics.


Edited by tankqull, 26 May 2018 - 07:23 PM.


MiaMica #19 Posted 27 May 2018 - 12:07 PM

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Do not by any premium from T8 there all filthy - ok only one Loewe he is hard to kill...  if he camps like a TD

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View PostDarkRyu2503, on 26 May 2018 - 12:38 PM, said:

Thanks for your advices guys! :)

I will definitely reconsider if I should buy a premium tank or not at the current situation...

But if yes, there are 4 tanks I could narrow down: T34, Loewe, T-54 Mod. 1, M4A1 Revalorise. Which one of them would you choose?

How is T34 vs Loewe and T54 Mod1 vs M4A1 (cuz same price range and same type)?

 

well the really important question here is: what do you want to play the most, germans, americans, soviets or French?

because all of those tanks are decent, the m4A1 may need a bit of getting used to but otherwise you can do well and make money in all of those.

 






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