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Svegurok #1 Posted 28 May 2018 - 10:53 AM

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wremise #2 Posted 28 May 2018 - 10:55 AM

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How about No?

HeidenSieker #3 Posted 28 May 2018 - 10:56 AM

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View PostSvegurok, on 28 May 2018 - 10:53 AM, said:

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How about posting in the proper thread for MM discussion?

Jigabachi #4 Posted 28 May 2018 - 11:19 AM

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How about the two things above and how about putting a bit more effort into explaining the reason behind your pointless whine?

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unhappy_bunny #5 Posted 28 May 2018 - 11:19 AM

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View PostSvegurok, on 28 May 2018 - 10:53 AM, said:

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How about giving us your reasoning behind this "novel" idea. Tell us why you think it would be beneficial. 

Think of it as practice for that post you are going to make in the "suggestions" section of the forum. 

Explain to us, as if you were presenting this idea to WG.



CraftyVeteran #6 Posted 28 May 2018 - 11:22 AM

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doesn't make money, so they will not.



Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #7 Posted 28 May 2018 - 11:22 AM

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How about...

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CraftyVeteran #8 Posted 28 May 2018 - 11:23 AM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 28 May 2018 - 11:19 AM, said:

 

 

How about giving us your reasoning behind this "novel" idea. Tell us why you think it would be beneficial. 

Think of it as practice for that post you are going to make in the "suggestions" section of the forum. 

Explain to us, as if you were presenting this idea to WG.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=nNKppIPKVUo

 

watch and learn.



____Green____ #9 Posted 28 May 2018 - 11:43 AM

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+/- 1 tier is worst idea. Smaller HP pool, less DMG. Lorr, somua, defender, WZ, STRV ar tier VIII will dominate. :D

Agent_327 #10 Posted 28 May 2018 - 12:52 PM

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Balc0ra #11 Posted 28 May 2018 - 01:13 PM

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Since you lack even a basic argument or reason for it. I suspect WG won't even give it much thought. 

 

Then again... I'm the weird one and have only stuck around for this long since it has +2 MM. As I find +1 and +0 games fun on some tiers "Tier 6 & 7 are the only balanced and fun tiers with +0, even tier 4 is too broken for it as WG even admit recently". But not something that ever lasting fun for me anyway. As even being top tier all day gets old and boring fast after a bit, even with the B2. But that's just me anyway. 


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NoPoet406 #12 Posted 28 May 2018 - 01:17 PM

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+1 MM games can be fun and introduce an element of tactics, as your bottom tier tanks are (usually) slightly outclassed but (usually) have a fighting chance. Although it is extremely frustrating for a bottom tier medium to struggle against a +1 tier light. This means that WG could focus on better balance between tiers.

 


 

+2 MM relegates a lot of tanks to uselessness. An O-I Exp stands no chance at all against a well-driven O-Ho. A Churchill I cannot outrun or outfight an IS, nor does it stand much chance of penning it, and you cannot flank an IS (which is faster than British mediums) in a tank which is stuck at 20kph. I have seen games where enemy heavies were 2 tiers higher than my own team's so this is a realistic problem.


 

Not everyone has been playing the game for 6 years and not everyone has 2500 recent WN8, or knows every weakspot of hundreds of tanks. +2 MM is frustrating, spoils the game and eventually becomes rage inducing. It seems that over the last year, virtually all complaints about MM somehow end up relating to +2 MM. And yet nothing is done about it. WG just introduce new (or old) tier 8 premium tanks while stating that they're aware tier 8 premiums have a MM problem. Buy a new obsolete tank for only £50, no refunds.


 

+2 MM sucks; it utterly sucks; it has no redeeming qualities and is responsible for so much aggro and so many players leaving the game. If I get a +2 MM day I simply log off and stop playing. It also ruins tooning as you are punished mercilessly for playing with friends. Fantastic strategy. I would absolutely love to be a fly on the wall during planning meetings. If they ever have any.



PauI #13 Posted 28 May 2018 - 01:46 PM

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Circon below explains in plain English why +-1MM set as a priority is a better idea and only after same tier battles and lastly +-2 battles


 

 



Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #14 Posted 28 May 2018 - 01:56 PM

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View PostPauI, on 28 May 2018 - 12:46 PM, said:

 

 

Circon below explains in plain English why +-1MM set as a priority is a better idea and only after same tier battles and lastly +-2 battles


 

 

Like everyone else, Circon has the right to his own opinion :girl:



CraftyVeteran #15 Posted 28 May 2018 - 02:21 PM

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View PostZe_HOFF_fverhoef, on 28 May 2018 - 01:56 PM, said:

Like everyone else, Circon has the right to his own opinion :girl:

 

unlike you and your clan, circon looks out for the community, not his own self-interests.  I'll weight his opinion a lot more than forum trolls. He's a lot better than you or I.

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Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #16 Posted 28 May 2018 - 02:25 PM

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View PostCraftyVeteran, on 28 May 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

 

unlike you and your clan, circon looks out for the community, not his own self-interests.  I'll weight his opinion a lot more than forum trolls. He's a lot better than you or I.

 

Unlike some people that jump to conclusions and need other people to think for them, I've got my own opinion.

And fun fact is that I haven't even shared my opinion in my previous reply.

 

So who's the troll here??



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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 May 2018 - 01:13 PM, said:

Since you lack even a basic argument or reason for it. I suspect WG won't even give it much thought. 

 

Then again... I'm the weird one and have only stuck around for this long since it has +2 MM. As I find +1 and +0 games fun on some tiers "Tier 6 & 7 are the only balanced and fun tiers with +0, even tier 4 is too broken for it as WG even admit recently". But not something that ever lasting fun for me anyway. As even being top tier all day gets old and boring fast after a bit, even with the B2. But that's just me anyway. 

 

lol i don't think Wg give anything much thought.

CraftyVeteran #18 Posted 28 May 2018 - 02:27 PM

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View PostZe_HOFF_fverhoef, on 28 May 2018 - 02:25 PM, said:

 

Unlike some people that jump to conclusions and need other people to think for them, I've got my own opinion.

And fun fact is that I haven't even shared my opinion in my previous reply.

 

So who's the troll here??

 

and yours is not as valuable because you hold no position of authority.  Sucks when people have to explain basic things to you doesn't it?  

Edited by CraftyVeteran, 28 May 2018 - 03:09 PM.


Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #19 Posted 28 May 2018 - 02:28 PM

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View PostCraftyVeteran, on 28 May 2018 - 01:27 PM, said:

 

and yours is not as valuable because you hold no position of authority.  Sucks when people have to explain basic things to you isn't it?  

 

And you think that Circon has influence at Wargaming?? Now who's the one being naive.

Suurpolskija #20 Posted 28 May 2018 - 02:47 PM

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Now, in a near future WG will probably benefit from 3-5-7 +-2mm financially more. Are they milking a dying game? I dunno. It sure benefits players playing their high tier tanks with premium accounts and/or boosters. And high skilled players aren't probably that bothered by playing bottom tier as maybe some more freshly started players.

 

In a long run I do think they should at least change something about it. Sure, there's always "something to shoot at" even when you're bottom tier, but I guess as a new player you need those experiences where you really are a top dog and use your advantage to your (and your teams) benefit. When you play 90% of the games bottom / mid tier, the game might feel a bit grindy and unmotivating.

 

I agree with Circonflexes on a lot of points and maybe the matchmaker should prioritize some other template than 3-5-7. Currently it makes me cynical towards a lot of things. I just always seem to find angles to all changes where they cause more need for premium time and more premium ammo. I guess if that's the way it is, then that's the way it is. I like the game but I hate the way things have been going for a while now.







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