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AvalancheZ257 #1 Posted 28 May 2018 - 06:53 PM

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WOT Chimera tank spec card 28 05 2018.jpg

Source: http://forum.worldof...iomu-–-chimera/

 

490 alpha, 10 degrees gun depression, 202 silver pen, rounded and tough turret front, 0.35 accuracy all on a medium tank platform... what could go wrong? 

 

Me: "But what about the T-34-3, M4 Rev and the Guard?"

WG: "Hang on a sec, need funds for the moon base"

 

EDIT: To make this thread constructive, I suggest maybe making this new tank a Tier 8 premium TD. The Brits don't have one yet and it fits well with the Challenger and its playstyle. Just change the tank class to TD and tone that mobility down. Besides, we already have plenty of powercreeped Tier 8 British premium meds. We don't need another powercreeper tank since the 5/1 hasn't even been released yet on EU

 

EDIT 2 (01/06/2018): 

Well, it seems the Chimera got the massive nerfhammer. 

 

https://thedailyboun...himera-changes/

 


Edited by AvalancheZ257, 01 June 2018 - 11:48 PM.


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202 pen is not gonna make it that strong unless top tier... much like the M4 Rev or any US tier 8 med tbh. 490 alpha is a big number. But besides what they did write, it's not easy to say how the "weak" aspects will drag it down. Tho IMO... DPM needs to be toned way down to make that alpha work on a non TD with over 1000 horse power and that power to weight. It's no Charioteer, but not far off either tbh.  But...still subject to change and all that. 

 

Tho considering the new T-34 tier 5 premium was marked as a "reward tank" on CT.... it would be interesting if this was... a new campaign reward. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 28 May 2018 - 07:00 PM.


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*edited*? Centurion mk.5/1 hasnt even been released yet and already another UK tier 8 medium in the works...? #WGlogic

 

And itd be OP if it had an 8 sec reload time iso 14 sec. :P


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peekakilla #6 Posted 28 May 2018 - 07:00 PM

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you made my wallet wet, but idk if i will remove the chastity belt from it :trollface:

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Is there a medal for being the first to complain about a new tank on the forums?

AvalancheZ257 #8 Posted 28 May 2018 - 07:05 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 May 2018 - 06:58 PM, said:

202 pen is not gonna make it that strong unless top tier... much like the M4 Rev or any US tier 8 med tbh. 490 alpha is a big number. But besides what they did write, it's not easy to say how the "weak" aspects will drag it down. Tho IMO... DPM needs to be toned way down to make that alpha work on a non TD with over 1000 horse power and that power to weight. It's no Charioteer, but not far off either tbh.  But...still subject to change and all that. 

 

Tho considering the new T-34 tier 5 premium was marked as a "reward tank" on CT.... it would be interesting if this was... a new campaign reward. 

 

202 pen with 0.35 accuracy is comfortable. Its a hell of a lot better than the 175 pen and 0.41 accuracy the T-34-3 gets. 

 

I mean, if this tank was a super rare reward tank I wouldn't mind so much. But lets be honest here, its probably going to be a Tier 8 premium. 

 

View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 28 May 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

Is there a medal for being the first to complain about a new tank on the forums?

 

I'd take a medal. 

Grand_Moff_Tano #9 Posted 28 May 2018 - 07:05 PM

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That got me as well, a 5" 127mm gun on a Medium tank? Takes OP Premiums to a new level.

Balc0ra #10 Posted 28 May 2018 - 07:13 PM

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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 28 May 2018 - 07:05 PM, said:

 

202 pen with 0.35 accuracy is comfortable. Its a hell of a lot better than the 175 pen and 0.41 accuracy the T-34-3 gets. 

 

I mean, if this tank was a super rare reward tank I wouldn't mind so much. But lets be honest here, its probably going to be a Tier 8 premium. 

 

Well we don't know yet. But I suspect we will know soon enough what it's for. Sure 202 pen is comfortable. But vs a hull down med target like the FV or the 430 etc. Or the new HT meta head on... 202 won't do much. Nothing to complain about the dispersion though. That's a bit too high for my taste vs alpha. But WG wanted it as a support med. But lets wait for the test and numbers to be a bit more final first so we know what the other drawbacks is vs the gun. As even the mobility and turret armor combo is a bit to much atm. But we don't know how much of the turret the max armor covers. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 28 May 2018 - 07:14 PM.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 May 2018 - 07:13 PM, said:

 

Well we don't know yet. But I suspect we will know soon enough what it's for. Sure 202 pen is comfortable. But vs a hull down med target like the FV or the 430 etc. Or the new HT meta head on... 202 won't do much. Nothing to complain about the dispersion though. That's a bit too high for my taste vs alpha. But WG wanted it as a support med. But lets wait for the test and numbers to be a bit more final first so we know what the other drawbacks is vs the gun. As even the mobility and turret armor combo is a bit to much atm. But we don't know how much of the turret the max armor covers. 

 

It can fire 630dmg HE at hull-down targets which will be reasonably effective.

 

490 alpha is disgusting, *edited*

 

At least they didn't give it HESH.


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View PostTr0gledyte, on 28 May 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

 

At least they didn't give it HESH.

 

Yet

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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 28 May 2018 - 07:05 PM, said:

I'd take a medal. 

You can have a medal from me;

 

Reward for adopting the bleakest viewpoint possible, as prematurely as possible, and Nostradamus of the day. The Blelyus medal.



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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 28 May 2018 - 06:31 PM, said:

You can have a medal from me;

 

Reward for adopting the bleakest viewpoint possible, as prematurely as possible, and Nostradamus of the day. The Blelyus medal.

 

But you have to admit that the stats for it are ridiculous with that 127mm gun.

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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 28 May 2018 - 07:31 PM, said:

You can have a medal from me;

 

Reward for adopting the bleakest viewpoint possible, as prematurely as possible, and Nostradamus of the day. The Blelyus medal.

 

I'm honoured. A bleak viewpoint to match the bleak situation of WoT. 

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This MT have 2190 DPM too. That is not low number. 

Guard have 1743 dpm with 212 pen and 390 alpha. 
Rev have 1906 with 200 pen and 390
T34-3 1821, 175 pen, 390 
T34-2 1626, 175 pen, 390 alpha 

As for pen:

He is middle spot, for that kind of dmg 

AvalancheZ257 #17 Posted 28 May 2018 - 07:36 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 May 2018 - 07:13 PM, said:

 

Well we don't know yet. But I suspect we will know soon enough what it's for. Sure 202 pen is comfortable. But vs a hull down med target like the FV or the 430 etc. Or the new HT meta head on... 202 won't do much. Nothing to complain about the dispersion though. That's a bit too high for my taste vs alpha. But WG wanted it as a support med. But lets wait for the test and numbers to be a bit more final first so we know what the other drawbacks is vs the gun. As even the mobility and turret armor combo is a bit to much atm. But we don't know how much of the turret the max armor covers. 

 

490 alpha on a Tier 8 medium completely breaks the bounds of what is acceptable. The HE shells alone would cause massive problems. And the biggest problem is the powercreep. Forget the M4 Rev, the Guard or the T-34-3. 

 

M4 Rev - Big alpha sniper medium

Guard - Big alpha, mid-range medium that can snipe or brawl

T-34-3 - Big alpha, close range brawler

 

The Chimera has better characteristics than the M4 Rev for long ranger sniping, better characteristics than the Guard for mid-range trading, and better characteristics than the T-34-3 for close range brawling. Alpha is king. 



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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 28 May 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

I'm honoured. A bleak viewpoint to match the bleak situation of WoT. 

While I understand that there is a certain history to WoT and release of stronk tanks, I never get the thing with finding as much as possible to complain about and then rushing to the forums to find likeminded people who can all bring eachother further down by agreeing on something they cannot impact, instead of enjoying the game and fret a lttle less.

 

You're welcome btw.



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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 28 May 2018 - 06:37 PM, said:

While I understand that there is a certain history to WoT and release of stronk tanks, I never get the thing with finding as much as possible to complain about and then rushing to the forums to find likeminded people who can all bring eachother further down by agreeing on something they cannot impact, instead of enjoying the game and fret a lttle less.

 

You're welcome btw.

 

Besides they may nerf its stats down to more realistic levels before it gets to the game.

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