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Which Tier VIII mediums should I buy?


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Which tank should I buy?

  1. STA-1 (1 vote [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  2. Centurion (6 votes [60.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

  3. Pershing (3 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

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Brazilski #1 Posted 31 May 2018 - 03:57 PM

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Yep, I know there are other Tier VIII mediums. I have the Panther II and Indien Panzer unlocked allready, and I know the T-44 is good. However, I want one that looks good, which narrows it down a bit (Panther II would have looked good, if it wasn't for the flagpole top gun).

 

Also, please bear in mind that I don't intend to progress past Tier VIII (so later or end of the line tanks are not an argument), and I intend to blow my free exp. on this, by skipping a tier. I know it is better to use free exp. to unlock modules for stock thanks, but I just hate the British Tier VII grind, and dread the Japanese Chi-Ri. The T-20 grind is actually quite okay, so for the Pershing I probably wouldn't use free exp., while for the STA-1 and Centurion I would, but then I have a fair number of modules allready unlocked for those tanks, so I still wouldn't have to drive them stock.



DarkPacifist #2 Posted 31 May 2018 - 04:31 PM

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I only played pershing but despite some people saying that it is a bad tank I enjoyed it a lot so I would recommend this one. Moreover there's the patton at the end of the line which is a good tank when stb1 is not that good for the moment. In the other hand there's the centurion AX after the centurion so both should be good.

Search_Warrant #3 Posted 31 May 2018 - 04:51 PM

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None, tier 8 mediums are free food for tier 10 "new improved" matchmaking.

Brazilski #4 Posted 31 May 2018 - 09:29 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 31 May 2018 - 04:51 PM, said:

None, tier 8 mediums are free food for tier 10 "new improved" matchmaking.

 

Which might be a reason to go for the Centurion, because of the penetration.

 

I really wonder what will happen after the gold ammo workover though, and am considering waiting untill after that.

 

View PostDarkPacifist, on 31 May 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

I only played pershing but despite some people saying that it is a bad tank I enjoyed it a lot so I would recommend this one. Moreover there's the patton at the end of the line which is a good tank when stb1 is not that good for the moment. In the other hand there's the centurion AX after the centurion so both should be good.

 

There's no Centurion AX, STB-1, or Patton: like I said, I won't be progressing past Tier VIII, out of economic reasons :P

 

The Pershing looks nice, and at least it has some hull armour and mobility. My concern is though how much that will matter with the matchmaking it'll get and a gun that can't pen. anything.



Suurpolskija #5 Posted 01 June 2018 - 05:35 AM

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I've been playing both Centurion and Pershing a bit lately, mostly Frontline. While I think both are nice tanks, out of those two I'd pick Centurion. Better pen and better turret armor.

 

edit: It also looks cooler.


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Eokokok #6 Posted 01 June 2018 - 07:49 PM

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The only ones worth anything at tier 8 from the ones that had been released are Pantera, Progetto and T-44 clones. Every single one from the rest lacks something and especially compared to Italian tier 8s they are just not worth any money.

FluffyRedFox #7 Posted 04 June 2018 - 12:49 PM

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Definitely the Centurion, a fantastic tank of the tier that can still be somewhat relevant in tier X due to the turret armour and penetration.

Don't rely on your turret armour too much in higher tier games, while the armour thickness is great, its relatively flat so tanks with ~260 pen can shoot right through it reliably, heck with your own prem shell you can go through it fairly consistently. 



Brazilski #8 Posted 04 June 2018 - 01:09 PM

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View PostEokokok, on 01 June 2018 - 07:49 PM, said:

The only ones worth anything at tier 8 from the ones that had been released are Pantera, Progetto and T-44 clones. Every single one from the rest lacks something and especially compared to Italian tier 8s they are just not worth any money.

 

Because Italian tanks are new. I think there's a good chance they'll get balanced later on. Same with the HE pen. on the Cannone da 75/34.

 

The Pantera is an ugly fantasy tank too, so unfortunately, it is not an option for me anyway.

 

View PostSuurpolskija, on 01 June 2018 - 05:35 AM, said:

I've been playing both Centurion and Pershing a bit lately, mostly Frontline. While I think both are nice tanks, out of those two I'd pick Centurion. Better pen and better turret armor.

 

edit: It also looks cooler.

 

View PostFluffyRedFox, on 04 June 2018 - 12:49 PM, said:

Definitely the Centurion, a fantastic tank of the tier that can still be somewhat relevant in tier X due to the turret armour and penetration.

Don't rely on your turret armour too much in higher tier games, while the armour thickness is great, its relatively flat so tanks with ~260 pen can shoot right through it reliably, heck with your own prem shell you can go through it fairly consistently. 

 

Seems like the Centurion is indeed the best choice. I just discovered though, that during last Christmas' event, I unlocked a permanent -50% discount for the STA-1. I had completely forgotten about that.

 

Guess I'll just have to get both. I almost have the turret on the Comet, so maybe I can get some more exp. on it, and I have a transition gun for the Centurion allready, by maxing out the Firefly. That way, I should be able to get a playable Centurion without using all my free exp.. I can then save some more free exp, and get the STA-1.



FluffyRedFox #9 Posted 04 June 2018 - 01:13 PM

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View PostBrazilski, on 04 June 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Guess I'll just have to get both. I almost have the turret on the Comet, so maybe I can get some more exp. on it, and I have a transition gun for the Centurion allready, by maxing out the Firefly. That way, I should be able to get a playable Centurion without using all my free exp.. I can then save some more free exp, and get the STA-1.

I guess thats one thing I forgot to mention, even with the 17pdr the stock grind is baaaaaaad as you're a fat unarmoured tank with a tier 6 gun :v

Good thing about playing the Brit heavies beforehand is that you get the 20pdrs researched, but I guess you can't do that now?



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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 04 June 2018 - 01:13 PM, said:

I guess thats one thing I forgot to mention, even with the 17pdr the stock grind is baaaaaaad as you're a fat unarmoured tank with a tier 6 gun :v

Good thing about playing the Brit heavies beforehand is that you get the 20pdrs researched, but I guess you can't do that now?

 

I can do anything, but in this case I'd have to start around Tier 2 I believe :unsure:

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View PostBrazilski, on 04 June 2018 - 12:19 PM, said:

 

I can do anything, but in this case I'd have to start around Tier 2 I believe :unsure:

 

"can't do that now" as in that I think the Caernarvon only gets the 17pdr and 32pdr when before you had to go 17pdr -> 20pdr a barrel -> 20pdr b barrel :P

 

Edit: just checked, yup you can't get the 20pdr on the Caernarvon so the only non-TD variant of the 20 pdrs are on the tier 8 and 9 Centurions :(


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Brazilski #12 Posted 04 June 2018 - 01:34 PM

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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 04 June 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

 

Edit: just checked, yup you can't get the 20pdr on the Caernarvon so the only non-TD variant of the 20 pdrs are on the tier 8 and 9 Centurions :(

 

Gee,.. I wonder why WG would reduce parts commonality, especially on hard-to-grind tanks,.. :sceptic:



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You said something about looks, then i would chose STA-1, but you also said something that you don't intend on going to the next tier thus i would definitely say that your best choice is between Pershing and Centurion. If i would have to chose only one between the tier 10 tanks in those lines i would have a difficult time as i like them all. But the tier 8 kind of suck although Cent and Persh are a bit better than STA. So it's simple, Persh or Cent. I personally would chose Pershing even if statistically seems worse than Centurion. I found it a bit easier to play being a bit more mobile and with good turret to peak shots, works even against is-3's to side hug them as they can't shoot your hull, your mantlet is really hard and aiming at your turret's weak spot commander or small round cheeks is difficult if you move forward/backward. But you need less premium ammo with Cent than with Persh. You judge what's your favorite approach.

 

View PostSuurpolskija, on 01 June 2018 - 05:35 AM, said:

 better turret armor.

 

 

Unlikely. My experience says otherwise. The stats you see in garage and on sites refers to the cheeks not the mantlet. Also Pershing's turret is smaller with narrow and round cheeks thus is more difficult to land damaging shots compared to the Centurion's turret. Of course, speaking about same tier normal penetration and not about 330mm types that you may encounter in a random battle, as then both suck the same.

 

 


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View PostBrazilski, on 04 June 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

 

Because Italian tanks are new. I think there's a good chance they'll get balanced later on. Same with the HE pen. on the Cannone da 75/34.

 

The Pantera is an ugly fantasy tank too, so unfortunately, it is not an option for me anyway.

 

Doubt they will nerf anything on Pantera, since it is already arguably weaker then premium by quite a margin, and prem is beyond realm of nerfs.

 

One thing though - I would argue that overall if you want to stop grinds, nowadays you should do it either at tier 7 (mostly for HTs) or tier 9 (all HTs and MTs pretty much). Tier 8 is already bad with MM, so playing it for other reasons then grinding lines or silver is not really worth the effort. With that in mind I would go for US meds, since at tier 9 7/1 is not really my favorite (in fact I think it sucks due to DPM and gun handling) and Type has no ammo and iffy turret. Patton though is one of best tier 9 tonks, MM is nice, and you can get many different prems for that line.



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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 04 June 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

 

"can't do that now" as in that I think the Caernarvon only gets the 17pdr and 32pdr when before you had to go 17pdr -> 20pdr a barrel -> 20pdr b barrel :P

 

Edit: just checked, yup you can't get the 20pdr on the Caernarvon so the only non-TD variant of the 20 pdrs are on the tier 8 and 9 Centurions :(

 

Thats disgusting. how the hell u supposed to fight in tier 8 with a f**** 17 pounder on that platform.

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 06 June 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

 

Thats disgusting. how the hell u supposed to fight in tier 8 with a f**** 17 pounder on that platform.

Hey now, at least nowadays you get the cent turret as stock, when I first got the Caernarvon you got the 17pdr AND the Black Prince turret as stock.

No, not the 240mm thick turret, the old 152mm thick BP turret :trollface:



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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 06 June 2018 - 11:34 AM, said:

Hey now, at least nowadays you get the cent turret as stock, when I first got the Caernarvon you got the 17pdr AND the Black Prince turret as stock.

No, not the 240mm thick turret, the old 152mm thick BP turret :trollface:

 

dident they nerf the turret of BP in HD?

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 06 June 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

 

dident they nerf the turret of BP in HD?

I dunno, but the current turret would still hold up in tier 8 quite well, let alone tier 7



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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 06 June 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

I dunno, but the current turret would still hold up in tier 8 quite well, let alone tier 7

 

Shame its only 8 undep so it cant peek ridges that great.

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I would not be good at ridges either way with central turret on low gun placement on long hull.




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