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Poll: A better MM? (33 members have cast votes)

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Would you prefer 4Tanker's MM idea?

  1. Definately (21 votes [63.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.64%

  2. Not bothered (8 votes [24.24%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.24%

  3. No, 3/5/7 rox (4 votes [12.12%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.12%

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NaanBread #1 Posted 01 June 2018 - 06:57 PM

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WG watch this (4Tanker & Dog):

https://www.youtube....h?v=ks_TW7_sLMo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks_TW7_sLMo

 

Match maker stopped me (& I think many others) playing (except Frontlines). With a MM working something like in this video, I'd start playing again and maybe buy some premium tanks, like I used to.

 

What do rest of you guys think?


Edited by NaanBread, 02 June 2018 - 10:22 PM.


evilchaosmonkey #2 Posted 01 June 2018 - 07:04 PM

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TLDR version please.

I am fairly sure 99% of peeps don't want to listen to 30 mins of an American.

 

Also nice nickname.



CircleOfSorrow #3 Posted 01 June 2018 - 07:08 PM

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View PostNaanBread, on 01 June 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

WG watch this (3Tanker & Dog):

https://www.youtube....h?v=ks_TW7_sLMo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks_TW7_sLMo

 

Match maker stopped me (& I think many others) playing (except Frontlines). With a MM working something like in this video, I'd start playing again and maybe buy some premium tanks, like I used to.

 

What do rest of you guys think?

 

I cannot support a change to this game that cannot be succinctly explained in a short paragraph.

NaanBread #4 Posted 01 June 2018 - 08:04 PM

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OK, I understand that, it is a fairly long video. Basically he shows (using excel) a way that would improve the state of the MM considerably from the player's point of view. ie: not being bottom tier so often.

He also takes into account the high number of tier 8 & 10s that are in the queue and how to get around this.

 

Bookmark the vid and when you get time watch it, unless you are happy with MM as it is.

 

I doubt that WG will take any notice but I certainly won't be spending any more on wot as it is and will stick to Frontlines for now.



Bordhaw #5 Posted 01 June 2018 - 08:32 PM

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View PostNaanBread, on 01 June 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

What do rest of you guys think?

 

 

It doesnt matter what we think.

 

WG ignore everyone. So you, me, everyone can twitter away with their solutions and it's just a big waste of time...unfortunately. 

 

 



Rittmeister39 #6 Posted 01 June 2018 - 09:26 PM

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4TankersAndDog is great!

Dorander #7 Posted 01 June 2018 - 09:32 PM

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View PostBordhaw, on 01 June 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

 

 

It doesnt matter what we think.

 

WG ignore everyone. So you, me, everyone can twitter away with their solutions and it's just a big waste of time...unfortunately. 

 

 

 

What players, even long-time players, frequently forget is that what we think MM should do and what WG thinks MM should do are completely different things.

 

From a player perspective, MM should be designed to give as equal and potentially enjoyable battles as possible. From a WG perspective, MM should be designed to support their business model, whatever that exactly is.



250swb #8 Posted 01 June 2018 - 09:48 PM

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View PostNaanBread, on 01 June 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

OK, I understand that, it is a fairly long video. Basically he shows (using excel) a way that would improve the state of the MM considerably from the player's point of view

 

Ah, an Excel spread sheet, and for anybody who understands it means biased opinion in = misinformed conclusion out. Yes, it only looks like science.



arthurwellsley #9 Posted 01 June 2018 - 09:53 PM

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Biased Poll.

 

Does not give an option for;

 

"Nice try yank, but your figures might be slightly off, and also please provide an analysis of how the proposals would effect the usuage of premium shells".

 

Because anything that reduces the amount of premium shells fired would not find approval with WG.



Steel_Patriot #10 Posted 01 June 2018 - 09:56 PM

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I rather 30 minutes of Claus Kellerman , at least the rage and sarcasm  puts a smile on your face rather than the need to go running for antidepressants while looking at facts.

Vule777 #11 Posted 01 June 2018 - 10:03 PM

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Can you first explain to me stupido, wtf is 3-5-7 system?

 

If this is about 3 tiers per battle, then I'm absolutely against that crap. Couple times I got  a survey in game from WG, and I said that to them, and automatically after I finished a survey, I got pop up where they said that ours opinion matters and how it's important. I see how it's important, they are thrill to help us.

 

Don't mix this opinion with arty removal because it is not the same.


Edited by Vule777, 01 June 2018 - 10:06 PM.


Bobik72 #12 Posted 01 June 2018 - 10:06 PM

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*edited*


Edited by NickMustaine, 02 June 2018 - 08:34 AM.
Non-constructive content


Vule777 #13 Posted 01 June 2018 - 10:08 PM

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View PostBobik72, on 01 June 2018 - 10:06 PM, said:

*edited*

 

Omg.

 

I can understand anger for WG...but all the rest is just sick.



Dorander #14 Posted 01 June 2018 - 10:08 PM

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View PostVule777, on 01 June 2018 - 09:03 PM, said:

Can you first explain to me stupido, wtf is 3-5-7 system?

 

If this is about 3 tiers per battle, then I'm absolutely against that crap. Couple times I got  a survey in game from WG, and I said that to them, and automatically after I finished a survey, I got pop up where they said that ours opinion matters and how it's important. I see how it's important, they are thrill to help us.

 

Don't mix this opinion with arty removal because it is not the same.

 

3-5-7 referrs to one of the Matchmaking templates the system uses these days, 3 players of the highest tier, 5 players of the tier below that, and 7 players of the tier two steps below the highest. So if the highest tier picked for a battle is 7, you'd see 3 tier 7 tanks, 5 tier 6 tanks and 7 tier 5 tanks on either team.

Aikl #15 Posted 01 June 2018 - 10:09 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 01 June 2018 - 08:53 PM, said:

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Because anything that reduces the amount of premium shells fired would not find approval with WG.

 

While premium shells are arguably essential to maximise performance in bad matchups, it's also about feeding the top tiers with inferior opponents to make them feel good. Sprinkle some 268v4 on top to get happy execs.

 

View PostNaanBread, on 01 June 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

(...) improve the state of the MM considerably from the player's point of view. ie: not being bottom tier so often.(...)

 

Wargaming hasn't created the current MM by accident. It's faulty (they admit they're constantly improving it), but it's working as intended.

 

View PostVule777, on 01 June 2018 - 09:03 PM, said:

(...)

If this is about 3 tiers per battle, then I'm absolutely against that crap. Couple times I got  a survey in game from WG, and I said that to them, and automatically after I finished a survey, I got pop up where they said that ours opinion matters and how it's important. I see how it's important, they are thrill to help us.

(...)

 

I made a poll a while back asking about the matchmaker. 3-5-7 wasn't enormously popular, unsurprisingly. Still, it was more popular than you'd expect - even in a poll where most are over average.


Edited by Aikl, 01 June 2018 - 10:12 PM.


Vule777 #16 Posted 01 June 2018 - 10:11 PM

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View PostDorander, on 01 June 2018 - 10:08 PM, said:

 

3-5-7 referrs to one of the Matchmaking templates the system uses these days, 3 players of the highest tier, 5 players of the tier below that, and 7 players of the tier two steps below the highest. So if the highest tier picked for a battle is 7, you'd see 3 tier 7 tanks, 5 tier 6 tanks and 7 tier 5 tanks on either team.

 

Finally to ask and get an answer, tnx.

Well, I don't know how would be called system with 2 tiers, but 3 tiers are too much.

NaanBread #17 Posted 01 June 2018 - 10:17 PM

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That's why I won't be spending more money on the game. So how does that help WG? I know I'm not alone here, just look at the MM thread Phelan started.

 

It may be what they initially intended but I think it's gonna sting them in the [edited]. I don't mind prem ammo now and again, but I refuse to HAVE to use it every battle. Plenty more games to play.

 

You other guys further up the page can troll as much as you want, there is a valid point here.

 

Frontlines is great btw...



Vule777 #18 Posted 01 June 2018 - 10:48 PM

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View PostNaanBread, on 01 June 2018 - 10:17 PM, said:

That's why I won't be spending more money on the game. So how does that help WG? I know I'm not alone here, just look at the MM thread Phelan started.

 

It may be what they initially intended but I think it's gonna sting them in the [edited]. I don't mind prem ammo now and again, but I refuse to HAVE to use it every battle. Plenty more games to play.

 

You other guys further up the page can troll as much as you want, there is a valid point here.

 

Frontlines is great btw...

 

They are great, they milk us even more this way. More dissatisfaction - more sheeps spending money. It is awesome system. WG is GREAT business company and I would like to work for them.

AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #19 Posted 01 June 2018 - 11:53 PM

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3-5-7 IS GREAT

your tier 9 and 10 tank get PMM and  meet lower tiers all the time ,its really fun to play against helpless opponent feelsgoodman.

 


Edited by AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, 01 June 2018 - 11:58 PM.


Vule777 #20 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:15 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 01 June 2018 - 11:53 PM, said:

3-5-7 IS GREAT

your tier 9 and 10 tank get PMM and  meet lower tiers all the time ,its really fun to play against helpless opponent feelsgoodman.

 

 

Not true in my case...I'm mostly in this 7 unfortunate opportunists. :D




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