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VodooShield #1 Posted 02 June 2018 - 07:41 PM

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A 6 tier med tank called M4A3E2 easily penetrates my 7 tier TD (Su-122-44) but  i cant penetrate him with 3 shots..really? wot is a tragedy.

Sfinski #2 Posted 02 June 2018 - 07:47 PM

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Learn the weakspots and learn to aim. You are the only one you should blame here. 

 

Also replay.



Dundato #3 Posted 02 June 2018 - 07:49 PM

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Replay, we dont believe

Nethraniel #4 Posted 02 June 2018 - 07:50 PM

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First. The Sherman Jumbo probably used the 105mm HE. So, yes, he will almost always damage you. Second, the 175 mm pen of your TD can struggle a bit against well armored targets.

In conclusion, your rant is actually something where the game works well. Thank you for the example. 

Learn to aim for weakpoints or try to outplay him. That is what the game is about. 



Bulldog_Drummond #5 Posted 02 June 2018 - 07:54 PM

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View PostVodooShield, on 02 June 2018 - 06:41 PM, said:

A 6 tier med tank called M4A3E2 easily penetrates my 7 tier TD (Su-122-44) but  i cant penetrate him with 3 shots..really? wot is a tragedy.

 

Impossible.  Send a complaint ticket to WG.
 

View PostVodooShield, on 02 June 2018 - 06:41 PM, said:

A 6 tier med tank called M4A3E2 easily penetrates my 7 tier TD (Su-122-44) but  i cant penetrate him with 3 shots..really? wot is a tragedy.

 

10K barrtles, 45% win rate in IS7, keep it up.
 

XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 02 June 2018 - 08:07 PM

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View PostNethraniel, on 02 June 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

First. The Sherman Jumbo probably used the 105mm HE. So, yes, he will almost always damage you. Second, the 175 mm pen of your TD can struggle a bit against well armored targets.

In conclusion, your rant is actually something where the game works well. Thank you for the example. 

Learn to aim for weakpoints or try to outplay him. That is what the game is about. 

 

Thing is the jumbo is not that well armored at least not against a tier 7 TD gun like this one.

 

 

Most of the hull and the turret are cheese against AP, load APCR and you can pen the mantlet with 75% chance.

 

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 02 June 2018 - 07:07 PM, said:

 

Thing is the jumbo is not that well armored at least not against a tier 7 TD gun like this one.

 

 

Most of the hull and the turret are cheese against AP, load APCR and you can pen the mantlet with 75% chance.

 

@OP site is: https://tanks.gg/

 

Ahem: if you use the 105mm and the stock turret it looks like this

 

Jumbo.PNG

 

 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #8 Posted 02 June 2018 - 08:23 PM

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View PostZapfhan, on 02 June 2018 - 09:19 PM, said:

 

Ahem: if you use the 105mm and the stock turret it looks like this

 

Jumbo.PNG

 

 

 

Not much of a difference really. It's an SU. :)

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View PostVodooShield, on 02 June 2018 - 07:41 PM, said:

A 6 tier med tank called M4A3E2 easily penetrates my 7 tier TD (Su-122-44) but  i cant penetrate him with 3 shots..really? wot is a tragedy.

 

shoot HE

his little bro, tier 5 is hard too



Igor_BL #10 Posted 02 June 2018 - 08:32 PM

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Kuzkina, get real. More players use stock turret. And when hulldown, that thing is beast. Even for tier8 guns.

 

while OP clearly has not enough expirience vs E2, it doesnt mean it is easily to deal with.
espacially with SU's 122mm.



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 02 June 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

 

Not much of a difference really. It's an SU. :)

 

lot's of difference. With the stock turret you will almost never pen the turret of the Jumbo, if he is hull down with SU-122-44 standard rounds.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #12 Posted 02 June 2018 - 08:42 PM

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View PostIgor_BL, on 02 June 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:

Kuzkina, get real. More players use stock turret. And when hulldown, that thing is beast. Even for tier8 guns.

 

while OP clearly has not enough expirience vs E2, it doesnt mean it is easily to deal with.
espacially with SU's 122mm.

 

I thought i was being real. I mean the average tier 6 player wouldn't have a clue about hull down and all these complicated stuff! :)

 

Also nice memory about Kazna and the 430II.

 

View PostNethraniel, on 02 June 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

 

lot's of difference. With the stock turret you will almost never pen the turret of the Jumbo, if he is hull down with SU-122-44 standard rounds.

 

WG is kind of funny with those models. Look closer and you will find a "hole" in the mantlet to the right and left of the gun. It got 178 mm of spaced armor and 0 armor behind it. Same "hole" exists in the T29, T34 and Chrysler models with stronger armor.

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 02 June 2018 - 08:42 PM, said:

 

 178 mm of spaced armor and 0 armor behind it.

Still, 175 pen of the 122 mm SU gun, might struggle. And we are at the moment only talking about 3 bounces.



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 02 June 2018 - 08:42 PM, said:

 

Also nice memory about Kazna and the 430II.

 

 

yeah, i loved to watch them. mainly because they use some weird setups and funky tactics...

430II.... then that T30 on mines defence, that ammoracked 113? on crossing 1 line. etc etc.

also, loved the old format, 7/68 just because of those tier8 and 9s... 7/70 has less variety, tank-wise.

 

i dont like standard setups, too boring :D


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XxKuzkina_MatxX #15 Posted 02 June 2018 - 08:57 PM

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View PostNethraniel, on 02 June 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

Still, 175 pen of the 122 mm SU gun, might struggle. And we are at the moment only talking about 3 bounces.

 

Yep, it can bounce of course but there is gold for that. Consider this, a hull down jumbo vs. an SU-122-44 at a distance of say 250 m. If he's alone there I'd drive up to him tanking the shots and plant 2 shots or more in his soft American...hull. If the distance is too great, he have allies or i don't have hp. I'll simply back off and let him come out of his hole close the distance and kill him.

 

Just a hypothesis for the sake of argument. :)



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XxKuzkina_MatxX #17 Posted 02 June 2018 - 08:58 PM

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View PostIgor_BL, on 02 June 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

 

yeah, i loved to watched them. mainly because they use some weird setups and funky tactics...

430II.... then that T30 on mines that ammoracked 113? on crossing 1 line. etc etc.

also, loved the old format, 7/68 just because of those tier8 and 9s... 7/70 has less variety, tank-wise.

 

i dont like standard setups, too boring :D

 

OMG, you remember that too!!! Very nice, i thought i was crazy. :)



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well, i am not really "normal"- talking about memory.

 

I rarelly forget things in RL. Got one of those mathematic/physics/chess brains... but dont worry, i am killing it slowly with alcohol and WOT.



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View PostVodooShield, on 02 June 2018 - 06:41 PM, said:

A 6 tier med tank called M4A3E2 easily penetrates my 7 tier TD (Su-122-44) but  i cant penetrate him with 3 shots..really? wot is a tragedy.

 

You can penetrate him well if you can choose a right team. 

 

The same team which server has chosen to be the winning one. 

 

View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 02 June 2018 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

Impossible.  Send a complaint ticket to WG.

 

Nothing is impossible in this "game". 

 

And tickets are useless. Two days ago I sent a ticket concerning a thing quite similar as this case. 

Yesterday: case closed, ticket closed, no explanations. 

 

This is a gg. 

 

 


 

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and if it is similar to this case, your ticket deserves to be closed.

 

imagine if they answer on every ticket, where people complain how they didnt pen certain tanks.







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