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iuytr #1 Posted 03 June 2018 - 03:07 PM

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What a waste of time. Gun can't pen anything, as soon as you're spotted you're cut to pieces. All you can do is hide somewhere but then you probably get TK'ed! Drown if you can and move on ......

 

 

Edit : I now realise why tiers 3-5 are so much more enjoyable - the difference in performance between top and bottom tiers isn't so huge. By the time you get to tiers 6 and 7 then there's no point if you're bottom tier.


Edited by iuytr, 03 June 2018 - 03:18 PM.


Cuck0osNest #2 Posted 03 June 2018 - 03:14 PM

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You described second problem of this game which is radio and spotting mechanics, which are part of comfort monetisation system, thats why those are so unintuitive. This easily being fixed by making shooting available only by own viewranges with temproral bonuses from radio receiving.

Edited by Cuck0osNest, 03 June 2018 - 03:18 PM.


Homer_J #3 Posted 03 June 2018 - 03:17 PM

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There's at least 7 bottom tier tanks on the other team.  Fight those. 

 

Or can you only take on lower tier tanks?  In which case just not pressing battle will work best for you.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #4 Posted 03 June 2018 - 03:19 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 03 June 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

There's at least 7 bottom tier tanks on the other team.  Fight those.

 

Fight the other half of the enemy team that you can easily handle? What madness is this?

jack_timber #5 Posted 03 June 2018 - 03:36 PM

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I like being bottom tier, strange I know, but I like the challenge.

PowJay #6 Posted 03 June 2018 - 03:40 PM

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I'll just leave these here for you. I can't promise that I do this every battle (far from it) but the tanks that I have kept are capable as bottom tier.

 

http://wotreplays.eu...powjay-crusader

 

http://wotreplays.eu...ay-powjay-t-150

 

http://wotreplays.eu...owjay-marder_ii

 

http://wotreplays.eu...ay-type_5_ke-ho

 

http://wotreplays.eu...e-powjay-alecto

 

http://wotreplays.eu...powjay-achilles

 

http://wotreplays.eu...re-powjay-su-85

 

http://wotreplays.eu...iff-powjay-lago

 

Everyone of those battles done as bottom tier in a three tier battle. You are not going to get this with every tank as some tanks are not capable at their own tier, but like I said- I choose my keepers because they are capable.

 

You could try these, or alternatively try either the formula L2P, or Git Gud.

 

Incidentally, I was just typing this while a battle finished in the T-43. This was a tier IX battle which we won. I was third on damage of my team and fifth overall with an 85mm gun. :izmena:


Edited by PowJay, 03 June 2018 - 03:42 PM.


malachi6 #7 Posted 03 June 2018 - 04:34 PM

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At worst 46% of the team is the same tier as you.  Yet, you can find nothing to shoot but the 3 (20%)  top tiers?  That is actually a super power..  Not sure you could get a movie out of it.  But you could write to Disney see what they have to say

unhappy_bunny #8 Posted 03 June 2018 - 04:45 PM

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View PostCuck0osNest, on 03 June 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

You described second problem of this game which is radio and spotting mechanics, which are part of comfort monetisation system, thats why those are so unintuitive. This easily being fixed by making shooting available only by own viewranges with temproral bonuses from radio receiving.

 

 

WHAT?

 

Radio and spotting mechanics are part of comfort monetisation system? What the heck does that mean?

 

You cant buy additional radio range or spotting distance (except bino's of course). You cant buy another tank to assist you by spotting enemies.

 

So just what are you trying to say?



unhappy_bunny #9 Posted 03 June 2018 - 04:48 PM

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View Postiuytr, on 03 June 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

What a waste of time. Gun can't pen anything, as soon as you're spotted you're cut to pieces. All you can do is hide somewhere but then you probably get TK'ed! Drown if you can and move on ......

 

 

Edit : I now realise why tiers 3-5 are so much more enjoyable - the difference in performance between top and bottom tiers isn't so huge. By the time you get to tiers 6 and 7 then there's no point if you're bottom tier.

 

Then maybe, just maybe, this isnt the game you thought it was and it is not the right game for you. Try working out what 'team' means and how you can play as part of one. 



PowJay #10 Posted 03 June 2018 - 04:48 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 03 June 2018 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

 

WHAT?

 

Radio and spotting mechanics are part of comfort monetisation system? What the heck does that mean?

 

You cant buy additional radio range or spotting distance (except bino's of course). You cant buy another tank to assist you by spotting enemies.

 

So just what are you trying to say?

 

Does anyone ever know what he is trying to say?

Jigabachi #11 Posted 03 June 2018 - 05:40 PM

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View Postiuytr, on 03 June 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

What a waste of time. Gun can't pen anything, as soon as you're spotted you're cut to pieces. All you can do is hide somewhere but then you probably get TK'ed! Drown if you can and move on ......

 

Edit : I now realise why tiers 3-5 are so much more enjoyable - the difference in performance between top and bottom tiers isn't so huge. By the time you get to tiers 6 and 7 then there's no point if you're bottom tier.

That is a simple sign that should tell you to learn to play some more. Knowing what to do when bottom tier is one of the core skills in this game.

 

Two very simple and logical hints:

1. You aren't the only bottom tier tank in a match. The enemy team does have some, too.

2. If you are bottomtier, you are rarely meant to brawl at the frotline. And yes, there are quite a few possible steps between "brawling at the frontline and suiciding" and "camping behind arty until you get TK'ed".

Cuck0osNest #12 Posted 03 June 2018 - 06:20 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 03 June 2018 - 04:45 PM, said:

 

 

WHAT?

 

Radio and spotting mechanics are part of comfort monetisation system? What the heck does that mean?

 

You cant buy additional radio range or spotting distance (except bino's of course). You cant buy another tank to assist you by spotting enemies.

 

So just what are you trying to say?

Paying for better viewrange and camo, thats why fate and all what happens to a spotted tanks and  are so overpowered. And all 15 guns can see spotted tank by any buildings and any amount of flora layers.


Edited by Cuck0osNest, 03 June 2018 - 06:23 PM.


PowJay #13 Posted 03 June 2018 - 06:46 PM

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View PostCuck0osNest, on 03 June 2018 - 05:20 PM, said:

Paying for better viewrange and camo, thats why fate and all what happens to a spotted tanks and  are so overpowered. And all 15 guns can see spotted tank by any buildings and any amount of flora layers.

 

You have really got to love Google Translate. It's really sad that this character- for all his faults- probably makes a lot of sense in his own language. :popcorn:

kejmo #14 Posted 03 June 2018 - 06:47 PM

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Clearly, the WG staff that spent thousands of hours playing this game thinks it's fine. 

 

So, it's fine.

 

#dictatorftw



unhappy_bunny #15 Posted 03 June 2018 - 08:01 PM

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View PostCuck0osNest, on 03 June 2018 - 06:20 PM, said:

Paying for better viewrange and camo, thats why fate and all what happens to a spotted tanks and  are so overpowered. And all 15 guns can see spotted tank by any buildings and any amount of flora layers.

 

 

So how are you paying for better viewrange, other than buying binoculars? And camo? ok so you can add camo to a tank and get a very small % increase in camo value, so what?

 

Just because a tank is spotted, doesnt mean every enemy can shoot it. it has to be within range, it cant be behind a hill or whatever. Yes it can be seen on the minimap, but otherwise, how is the mechanic overpowered? 

 

You really do need to think about what you post before you hit that post button. 



Bordhaw #16 Posted 03 June 2018 - 09:53 PM

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View Postiuytr, on 03 June 2018 - 02:07 PM, said:

Edit : I now realise why tiers 3-5 are so much more enjoyable - the difference in performance between top and bottom tiers isn't so huge. By the time you get to tiers 6 and 7 then there's no point if you're bottom tier.

 

If you think so lol

 



houghtonbee #17 Posted 04 June 2018 - 08:53 PM

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I dont mind being bottom tier, it's a fun challenge, and as stated you are still playing tanks of the same tier on the enemy team. What is really frustrating me, as a casual player on this game, is being bottom tier 80% of matches. This evening for example I've played circa 12 games in tanks from tier 3 to 7, I haven't been top tier once, middle tier twice. Sometimes it's a 2 tier game but mainly they've been 3 tier games, I really really dont mind being bottom tier even 50% of the time if needs be, but almost every single game is just soul destroying. I'd understand it more if I was 'good' at the game and deserved a bit of a handicap to keep things fair but I'm probably well below average!

 

Is this the average experience for everyone during a 12-15 game spell, being bottom tier so much? If it is then I have to choose between taking it on the chin or playing the game less often, at the moment it's a very demoralising experience to log in and be essentially cannon fodder for the 'lucky 3' who get top tier.

 

edit - 4 more games played, 3 bottom tier, one mid tier. ho hum.


Edited by houghtonbee, 04 June 2018 - 09:18 PM.


an0ther #18 Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:00 PM

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Here's a little bottom tier for you, yes you get to be bottom tier a lot - make the best of it you can. 

 

http://wotreplays.eu...e/4390048#teams

 



Hedgehog1963 #19 Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:17 PM

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Nearly half the enemy team are the same tier as you.  So shoot them.

RamRaid90 #20 Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:55 PM

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Kolobanovs as bottom tier...






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