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Conjugator #1 Posted 05 June 2018 - 08:37 PM

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This tank needs a side armour buff, and remove the weak-spot of the turret ring.

This would make it relevant again, give the Brit some love, it is much needed and would be very deserved.



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It is irrelevant now, replaced with the Super Conqueror

kaneAAA #3 Posted 05 June 2018 - 09:39 PM

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View PostSirebellus, on 05 June 2018 - 08:32 PM, said:

It is irrelevant now, replaced with the Super Conqueror

 

Er I have one... its probably one of the most unique tanks in the game. However, yes I agree it lacks something.

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Mimos_A #4 Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:22 PM

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Since the only way of buffing heavy tanks WG knows nowadays is making them broken as hell, I'd say let's just keep it as is.

Private_Pearts #5 Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:23 PM

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It is *edited*.............................. That is all.

Edited by NickMustaine, 06 June 2018 - 01:57 PM.
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Conjugator #6 Posted 05 June 2018 - 10:29 PM

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View PostMimos_A, on 05 June 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

Since the only way of buffing heavy tanks WG knows nowadays is making them broken as hell, I'd say let's just keep it as is.

 

the only thing they have broken is type 5, they re balanced maus, WZ is a bit op but yano, a bit of side armour wont make it op

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I like the BBQ placed in the front, very handy.

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The problem is I expect its likely to get more and more power creeped as time goes on.

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I think that FV215b was hands down the least satisfying tank to play while it was in the tech tree. I mean the gun is amazing but the rest of the tank is just not very good, the worst part being that this tank is so easy to set on fire, double fires are very common. I find FV215b even more infuriating to play than even 113 (which has worse ammo rack than Leo 1). 

 

Since FV215b currently has a status of a special tank, I highly doubt it will receive any buffs.


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View PostWarzey, on 05 June 2018 - 11:36 PM, said:

I think that FV215b was hands down the least satisfying tank to play while it was in the tech tree. I mean the gun is amazing but the rest of the tank is just not very good, the worst part being that this tank is so easy to set on fire, double fires are very common. I find FV215b even more infuriating to play than even 113 (which has worse ammo rack than Leo 1). 

 

Since FV215b currently has a status of a special tank, I highly doubt it will receive any buffs.

 

Why ? 

They buff CW tanks that are rare, like 121B. Its special yes, but not buffing tank because of status is quite silly. 

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View Postares354, on 05 June 2018 - 11:35 PM, said:

 

Why ? 

They buff CW tanks that are rare, like 121B. Its special yes, but not buffing tank because of status is quite silly. 

 

Well yea they did (maybe because of new campaign), but keep in mind that you can actually get your hands on those CW tanks, on the other hand you can't get FV215b or Foch 155 or any other "special" tank. Which is why I think those tanks are on the bottom of balancing list (assuming they're on the list to begin with). 

 



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View PostWarzey, on 06 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

 

Well yea they did (maybe because of new campaign), but keep in mind that you can actually get your hands on those CW tanks, on the other hand you can't get FV215b or Foch 155 or any other "special" tank. Which is why I think those tanks are on the bottom of balancing list (assuming they're on the list to begin with). 

 

 

Well, Foch 155 did get buff, when they add Foch B, they add gun arc, and something else. 

You have a point tho, those tanks are on bottom of balacing list if there is one. 

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View PostConjugator, on 05 June 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

This tank needs a side armour buff, and remove the weak-spot of the turret ring.

This would make it relevant again, give the Brit some love, it is much needed and would be very deserved.

 

i have to say you are right and wrong at the same time imo.

i have the fv215b in my collection and i really like play this tank.

 

You are right about the side armor but its impossible remove the weakspots from the turret cause this tank really existed and it was not particularly armored.

The side armor is patethic for a tier X ht and the modules resistance is terrible , in particular (engine-turret-ammorack-all the tankers) 

Every single shot of artillery translates into incredible damage to the modules as if it were an AMX CDC (lol) and often you even get penetrated !!

 

Having, as you know, the rear turret is a challenging vehicle to play and certainly not a tank suitable for all players.
In my opinion the real buff should be given to the resistance of the internal modules and a light buff on the side armor to allow you to play well behind the corners and tilt the tank properly.


Having the rear turret does not always allow you to use the ground depressions in an advantageous way, so many prefer to play it on flat terrains .. but obviously this conflicts with the fact that the side armor is comparable to that of a medium tier 7
My proposal; 40 mm more armor on the side and greater resistance of all modules to make it more playable a tank that has particular characteristics and that in the right circumstances is probably a tier X devastating with a cannon probably among the best in the game!

 

 

 

 

 



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View PostWarzey, on 06 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

 

Well yea they did (maybe because of new campaign), but keep in mind that you can actually get your hands on those CW tanks, on the other hand you can't get FV215b or Foch 155 or any other "special" tank. Which is why I think those tanks are on the bottom of balancing list (assuming they're on the list to begin with). 

 

 

I'm not sure FV and Foch have special status. They may be just discontinued tanks that have premium bonuses without the silver and xp bonus.

Because you can't get them anymore doesn't mean they are special. I had a WZ-111 who sold it some time ago and took a long break from the game. When i come back i wanted to get it back and because i had it from a marathon and because it's not a permanent resident in the shop i was under the impression that it should be a special tank. Support said it's not and gave the example of CW rewards as being special, nothing about discontinued branch tanks that weren't introduced again in any form.



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Yeh it needs a buff, Super Conq is just a flat out upgrade in almost every way.

 

They could at least remove the side weakspot and give it full 100mm side armour like they did with the Super Conq. 

 

Then maybe up the engine/fuel tanks hit points so it's much harder to set on fire. Also a DPM buff would be good so it's back to having higher DPM than the Super Conq. 



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View PostSimeon85, on 06 June 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

Yeh it needs a buff, Super Conq is just a flat out upgrade in almost every way.

 

They could at least remove the side weakspot and give it full 100mm side armour like they did with the Super Conq. 

 

Then maybe up the engine/fuel tanks hit points so it's much harder to set on fire. Also a DPM buff would be good so it's back to having higher DPM than the Super Conq. 

 

Or maybe remove a bit dpm from SQ, and lower his gun dep. 

Then buff side armor of FV and move back fuel tank to middle of tank. No need to add extra dpm to FV. His firepower is good enough. 

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View PostValkyrionX, on 06 June 2018 - 08:05 AM, said:

 

i have to say you are right and wrong at the same time imo.

i have the fv215b in my collection and i really like play this tank.

 

You are right about the side armor but its impossible remove the weakspots from the turret cause this tank really existed and it was not particularly armored.

The side armor is patethic for a tier X ht and the modules resistance is terrible , in particular (engine-turret-ammorack-all the tankers) 

Every single shot of artillery translates into incredible damage to the modules as if it were an AMX CDC (lol) and often you even get penetrated !!

 

Having, as you know, the rear turret is a challenging vehicle to play and certainly not a tank suitable for all players.
In my opinion the real buff should be given to the resistance of the internal modules and a light buff on the side armor to allow you to play well behind the corners and tilt the tank properly.


Having the rear turret does not always allow you to use the ground depressions in an advantageous way, so many prefer to play it on flat terrains .. but obviously this conflicts with the fact that the side armor is comparable to that of a medium tier 7
My proposal; 40 mm more armor on the side and greater resistance of all modules to make it more playable a tank that has particular characteristics and that in the right circumstances is probably a tier X devastating with a cannon probably among the best in the game!

 

 

 

 

 

 

i have no complaints from the gun, you are just agreeing with me? 40mm is too much that would make it un-penetrable which would be ridiculous, even 10-15mm due to the overmatch mechanics would be enough.

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I own it, not played a single battle in it. Mostly due to what everyone else says about it. Inc the engine fires. As I never did buy it in all the years I own the tier 9 Conq. Until a few days before it's removal. Even then I did not play it. And I'm less eager to take it out after reading some of the responses here. 

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View PostConjugator, on 06 June 2018 - 05:25 PM, said:

 

i have no complaints from the gun, you are just agreeing with me? 40mm is too much that would make it un-penetrable which would be ridiculous, even 10-15mm due to the overmatch mechanics would be enough.

oh yeah i agree with you, i was not talking about the gun (an amazing gun!) 

the actual side armor is only 101mm.. i think a buff of 10-15mm is not enough due the overmatch mechanics..minimum +30 imo

+30 cause this tank is not and hulldown specialized tank like his brother S.Q cause the rear turret...it need a real side armor to play on flat terrain 

and more resistance of all modules, like engine-ammorack-crew-fueltank

 


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