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Monk_0013 #1 Posted 06 June 2018 - 12:09 AM

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I know how you can get blue and this is not my behaviour. I try to make team with my mates and usually I try not answer when I'm instigated. 

Today, at 10:01 PM finished fight,  I had a situation when a mate "IKv 65 II" was overturned and he was asking for help and in the same time I was under fire, protecting my mate.

I walked around him, protected and backed up to restore him to a functional position. At the same time, I was guarded by the fire of the enemy and I did not appreciate it as well as I gave it back. As a result, IKV 65 II was crushed, and I was killed by the enemy.

I do not understand why WOT does not clearly analyze how I crushed my colleague with the best intentions to help him, but at the same time taking advantage of the fire of the enemy. I did not get the best maneuver in the way I wanted, but I did not crush him intentionally. It may be worthy of WOT thinking about this.

In the future I will no longer help a colleague in such situations unless I am sure of the outcome.

 

 



Sfinski #2 Posted 06 June 2018 - 05:16 AM

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trispect #3 Posted 06 June 2018 - 05:19 AM

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There could be at least be option to ”forgive” ally in-game in these kind of cases.

Flubber42 #4 Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:11 AM

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View Posttrispect, on 06 June 2018 - 05:19 AM, said:

There could be at least be option to ”forgive” ally in-game in these kind of cases.

 

Yes, I like this. A possibility to inform the game that I as a player on the receiving end of team -damage/kill know that it was unintentional.

Edited by Flubber42, 06 June 2018 - 11:12 AM.


BravelyRanAway #5 Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:17 AM

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View PostMonk_0013, on 05 June 2018 - 11:09 PM, said:

 I did not get the best maneuver in the way I wanted, but I did not crush him intentionally. It may be worthy of WOT thinking about this.

In the future I will no longer help a colleague in such situations unless I am sure of the outcome.

The system is automated. It just counts damage, it can't tell if you were trying to ram him either. If you can design a automated system that can understand the motives good or bad behind team damage.......you'll be on your way to being a billionaire as every gaming company will be at your doorstep with a cheque.



Graeme0 #6 Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:26 AM

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If there was a forgive button, idiots would abuse it and TK each other without punishment.  The consequences for the team would be negative and I for one would not enjoy being on teams where idiots are not contributing to the battle.

 

The automated system may not be 100% but at least it is fixed and fair.

 

Also:-  If you turned blue in the way you describe, you obviously cause team damage often so you get no sympathy.



BSHDBCG #7 Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:39 AM

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View Posttrispect, on 06 June 2018 - 05:19 AM, said:

There could be at least be option to ”forgive” ally in-game in these kind of cases.

 

People would never use it though, as it would require for them to know it actually exists.

Homer_J #8 Posted 06 June 2018 - 12:03 PM

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View PostMonk_0013, on 06 June 2018 - 12:09 AM, said:

 

I do not understand why WOT does not clearly analyze how I crushed my colleague with the best intentions to help him,

 

You do not need to understand, just know that is how it is

Edited by Homer_J, 06 June 2018 - 12:03 PM.


trispect #9 Posted 06 June 2018 - 12:35 PM

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View PostBSHDBCG, on 06 June 2018 - 12:39 PM, said:

 

People would never use it though, as it would require for them to know it actually exists.

 

Depends on how it would be implemented. The current system isn’t fair nor very well functioning. I really don’t think that platoons teamkilling each other would be major problem in comparison of the benefits of the system where player on the receiving end could pardon the player who did damage by mistake or when trying to help.

 

One example that happened to me: In the beginning of the match I accidentally pressed LMB when we were driving through cap circle ending up shooting teammate. So I instantly turned blue. I quickly typed in that I’m so sorry and that it was mistake. Player I shot understood but several other players stopped what they were doing and focused only killing me. Well you can guess what resulted from that. Landslide loss which effectively ruined that battle for nearly all of the players in that battle. 

 

 



signal11th #10 Posted 06 June 2018 - 01:11 PM

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mpf1959 #11 Posted 06 June 2018 - 01:49 PM

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 I crushed my colleague with the best intentions to help him

 

God that made me laugh, thanks for brightening my day! :teethhappy:



xtram3x #12 Posted 06 June 2018 - 01:55 PM

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I ignore people who have flipped themselves because usually helping them will either get me killed or will keep me from the battle long enough that I am of little help.

SlenderMoose #13 Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:03 PM

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I've become blue several times when I've tried helping people that have flipped.

Sometimes if they die it counts as you killed them which is freaking retarded!

MattieW #14 Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:16 PM

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I’m surprised at the toxicity of the replies to this topic.

Helping a team mate flip right shouldn’t be punished and a “forgive” button seems like a good idea.

 

Till then I guess I’ll have to drive around any team mates that have flipped and carry on for fear of team dmg counters working as intended.



BicycleOfDeath #15 Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:18 PM

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next time I see someone flipped I'm going to flip myself next to them, for sympathy. 

Pvt_Duffer #16 Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:25 PM

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View PostMattieW, on 06 June 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

I’m surprised at the toxicity of the replies to this topic.

 

WTF u on about toxicity?

 

And no a forgive button would not be a goof idea, because as previously stated, it would be horribly abused.

 

 

 



NoobySkooby #17 Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:31 PM

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View PostMattieW, on 06 June 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

I’m surprised at the toxicity of the replies to this topic.

Helping a team mate flip right shouldn’t be punished and a “forgive” button seems like a good idea.

 

Till then I guess I’ll have to drive around any team mates that have flipped and carry on for fear of team dmg counters working as intended.

 

Why the surprise? Any internet gaming site is always toxic, both in the forums and the ingame chat, people are not bound by anything to actually be decent, i get accused falsely of all manner of things, yet the people who actually believe they can tell you this or tell you that, not to play this tank or that is staggering beyond belief.

 

I try to be as civil as I can but in game it is very hard not to just let go, and if people get shitty with me for no apparent reason , I will offload a broadside at them without shame or hesitation, no one, absolutely no one will tell me what I can and cannot play, the more they say don't, the more I will.

 

It is nice that when you do help someone in game you  get a show of gratitude for it, does not always happen though, and should I accidentally shoot someone, ie as they float past my aim circle just as I make a shot, I profusely apologise, if they then cannot accept that apology ,then that is their tough luck



Homer_J #18 Posted 06 June 2018 - 03:04 PM

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View PostMattieW, on 06 June 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

I’m surprised at the toxicity of the replies to this topic.

 

 

Did you reply to the wrong thread because this one is pretty friendly so far.

BravelyRanAway #19 Posted 06 June 2018 - 03:33 PM

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View PostMattieW, on 06 June 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

I’m surprised at the toxicity of the replies to this topic.

Please copy and paste those 'toxic' replies in your next reply below....I want to see what you think is 'toxic'.



Bordhaw #20 Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:49 PM

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View PostMonk_0013, on 05 June 2018 - 11:09 PM, said:

I know how you can get blue and this is not my behaviour. I try to make team with my mates and usually I try not answer when I'm instigated. 

Today, at 10:01 PM finished fight,  I had a situation when a mate "IKv 65 II" was overturned and he was asking for help and in the same time I was under fire, protecting my mate.

I walked around him, protected and backed up to restore him to a functional position. At the same time, I was guarded by the fire of the enemy and I did not appreciate it as well as I gave it back. As a result, IKV 65 II was crushed, and I was killed by the enemy.

I do not understand why WOT does not clearly analyze how I crushed my colleague with the best intentions to help him, but at the same time taking advantage of the fire of the enemy. I did not get the best maneuver in the way I wanted, but I did not crush him intentionally. It may be worthy of WOT thinking about this.

In the future I will no longer help a colleague in such situations unless I am sure of the outcome.

 

 

 

And that is why nobody helps over turned tanks anymore. 




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