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Supertest: 50TP (PL Tier IX) and 60TP (PL Tier X) screenies and stats

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Spurtung #41 Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:14 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 07 June 2018 - 09:04 PM, said:

 

It's mentioned on an article. Tier 9 has a 130mm, tier 10 has a 152mm.

 

Perhaps that should be included in the OP, or is it asking too much?

Dava_117 #42 Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:43 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 07 June 2018 - 08:14 PM, said:

 

Perhaps that should be included in the OP, or is it asking too much?

 

Still not definitive. They are also thinking about a 130mm, but they would prefere the 152mm one...

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View PostDava_117, on 07 June 2018 - 09:43 PM, said:

 

Still not definitive. They are also thinking about a 130mm, but they would prefere the 152mm one...

 

I meant the article's link, sorry if I worded it wrongly.

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I Like the approach trying something new without another soviet clone tree.
The game left the path of real life tanks some time ago and as long as the tanks have some historical background and for in the right time frame I'm ok.
Hope the tree is worth it. Already have a female Commander from Christmas event and enough credits for the tree.

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View PostSpurtung, on 07 June 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

 

I meant the article's link, sorry if I worded it wrongly.

 

Both on supertest section of the forum and on the main page of the game site there is an article on them. 

Strizi #46 Posted 07 June 2018 - 10:01 PM

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The game doesnt need even more high alpha tanks with good turret armor. I wish they would never introduce tanks like this, those 2 heavies will 100000% just be another bunch of op tanks.

LordMuffin #47 Posted 07 June 2018 - 10:13 PM

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The T10 one is just an upgraded E100 about 1 tier above in powerlevel.

 

The T9, well, can't tell, though it looks a bit to good.



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View PostLordMuffin, on 07 June 2018 - 10:13 PM, said:

The T10 one is just an upgraded E100 about 1 tier above in powerlevel.

 

The T9, well, can't tell, though it looks a bit to good.

 

I don't think we can tell too much until we see armour profiles and soft stats.

 

But unlike recent super test entries, neither IMO look obviously OP, might be some E100 power creep with the tier 10 but again depends on the armour/soft stats. 



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View PostDava_117, on 07 June 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

 

Both on supertest section of the forum and on the main page of the game site there is an article on them. 

 

Oh crap, it wasn't there yet when I logged in today, didn't think there would be more news to come.

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Great, stupid big gunned TD's with armor slapped on and call it a heavy tank to get away with giving it stupid armor values. when we gonna get none dome turreted unique tanks instead of soviet clones with a paint job? (and probably fake tanks)

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LordMuffin #51 Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:33 AM

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View PostSimeon85, on 07 June 2018 - 10:48 PM, said:

 

I don't think we can tell too much until we see armour profiles and soft stats.

 

But unlike recent super test entries, neither IMO look obviously OP, might be some E100 power creep with the tier 10 but again depends on the armour/soft stats. 

 

The armour looks better.
Stronger turret (by quite a bit, better angles and just higher raw thickness, 250 in the released stats).

The hull is harder to guess, but it is like 140(?)mm of armour at some pretty good slope, and no pike either, so angling is a possibility.
And as we know, Turret armour is the most important part of the tanks armour profile, and there the Polish T10 is superior to the E100.

Soft stats can be devestating to the tank, but my guess is that those stats will be Ruski levels...



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View PostLordMuffin, on 07 June 2018 - 11:13 PM, said:

The T10 one is just an upgraded E100 about 1 tier above in powerlevel.

 

While it is likely more powerful than the E 100 overall, "1 tier above" is overexaggerating, it isn't THAT much of powercreep. Some of the stats and specific are still unrevealed; for instance, we dont know the prem ammo type. If it's HEAT, then the E 100 has actually a fairly significant advantage with it's premium shells. E 100 has more HP, better side armor, and possibly better gun handling. It also has better view range, which doesnt sound much at first, but there is a big difference between 390 and 400, because 390 base might mean that you have to run Optics to hit max view range (without using food). You can hit max view range with Vents if you got 400 base (and view range skills).

 

That being said, you're not wrong that it kinda powercreeps the E 100 in many ways. I guess it's just the healthpool that is unreasonably high - the main niche of the E 100 is the high HP pool + very high alpha combined together. On this thing, I would probably just drop the HP pool a bit, make the HE alpha 950 and then buff the AP pen a bit, and it would be reasonably fair vehicle. Resembles the old T30 in a way.

 

Need to see the armor model, though.


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View PostSpurtung, on 07 June 2018 - 05:05 PM, said:

Nice, another Sweden with no MT line but with MT premium. 

 

mo money when you have to spend gold to effectively train your crews for a powercreeping tank...

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View Postleggasiini, on 08 June 2018 - 07:53 AM, said:

 

While it is likely more powerful than the E 100 overall, "1 tier above" is overexaggerating, it isn't THAT much of powercreep. Some of the stats and specific are still unrevealed; for instance, we dont know the prem ammo type. If it's HEAT, then the E 100 has actually a fairly significant advantage with it's premium shells. E 100 has more HP, better side armor, and possibly better gun handling. It also has better view range, which doesnt sound much at first, but there is a big difference between 390 and 400, because 390 base might mean that you have to run Optics to hit max view range (without using food). You can hit max view range with Vents if you got 400 base (and view range skills).

 

That being said, you're not wrong that it kinda powercreeps the E 100 in many ways. I guess it's just the healthpool that is unreasonably high - the main niche of the E 100 is the high HP pool + very high alpha combined together. On this thing, I would probably just drop the HP pool a bit, make the HE alpha 950 and then buff the AP pen a bit, and it would be reasonably fair vehicle. Resembles the old T30 in a way.

 

Need to see the armor model, though.

The premium shells like like APCR with that pen.

HEAT gets like 330 or something, while the ~310 prem shells we have are all APCR. 

 

So I guess APCR.

The armour model we have from sites, we can see that the turret of the Polish T10 is way better then that on the E100.

It might even be prem shell resistant.

So the armour is just better on the Polish T10.

 

It have 390 I stead of 400 viewrange, it is a difference, but you can still get 445+ with Vents, food, bia and crew skills I guess. That disadvantage is small, just like the 100 less hp is also a small disadvantage.

 

What you do get is a few seconds faster reload and better mobility.

 

The main difference is the 334 HEAT against the 313 (?) APCR rounds.







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