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Anymn #1 Posted 09 June 2018 - 09:04 AM

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For the KV-5, and many other preferential MM tanks, it is be doomed to be quickly over. It totally dislike this, as well as the amount of unrealistic buffs there is coming with it. 

W.o.T. happens to be a game in which we could learn about tank statistics, just by looking into the garage. Plain buffing armor of the KV-5 is therefor, in my opinion, completely wrong!

 

Instead of buffing old preferential MM tanks and give it tier X matchmaking, I suggest a much better sollution:

Give the KV-5 (and other PMM tanks) a tier 7 -1/+2 MM*, while retaining tier 8 priveleges (credits, Frontline, special tier 8 events).

This way, the tanks will fight against the tiers it was intended to fight against, with as worst possibility 3x tier 9/5x tier 8/7x tier 7.

 

This way, no refunds are needed (as the tank is restated in it former glory). It also means it will not ruin the tier 5 gameplay as it is a -1/+2 MM.

 



CircleOfSorrow #2 Posted 09 June 2018 - 09:10 AM

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That solution is essentially keeping it at tier 8 with -2/+1 mm, no?  Anyway, I think WG are going to follow through with their final solution to this problem.

OIias_of_Sunhillow #3 Posted 09 June 2018 - 09:22 AM

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WG have a long term plan, one which we know nothing of.

 

I suspect squeezing, blood, and stones will be involved.



Anymn #4 Posted 09 June 2018 - 09:25 AM

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View PostCircleOfSorrow, on 09 June 2018 - 09:10 AM, said:

That solution is essentially keeping it at tier 8 with -2/+1 mm, no? Anyway, I think WG are going to follow through with their final solution to this problem.

 

Not really. A tier 7 with +2/-1 will always have at least 7 tier 7 tanks with it, while a 8 with +1 is able to get in full tier 8 matches (and that's very regularly).

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View PostAnymn, on 09 June 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

 

Not really. A tier 7 with +2/-1 will always have at least 7 tier 7 tanks with it, while a 8 with +1 is able to get in full tier 8 matches (and that's very regularly).

 

3/5/7 +2 MM 30% win chance = defeat

vixu #6 Posted 09 June 2018 - 10:16 AM

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Why players are trying to keep old KV-5, when it is clearly under-performing?

Removing pref mm does not mean that you will be facing tier X all the time. 
And in my books, it is better to have tank that can pull its weight in t9 battles, but can occasionally get into tX, then to have a tank that can barely work in T8, And many of pref-mm tanks are fairly poor compared to normal counterparts.

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View Postvixu, on 09 June 2018 - 10:16 AM, said:

Why players are trying to keep old KV-5, when it is clearly under-performing?

Removing pref mm does not mean that you will be facing tier X all the time. 
And in my books, it is better to have tank that can pull its weight in t9 battles, but can occasionally get into tX, then to have a tank that can barely work in T8, And many of pref-mm tanks are fairly poor compared to normal counterparts.

 

The problem lies with the MM. Tier 8 tanks rarely see 3-5-7 as top tier and the pmm tanks still kind of worked before WG introduced tier 8 tanks that should be at least in tier 9 with their stats. 

All that players were asking for was a pen buff so they can at least be a threat to their own tiers and if neccesary load premium ammo to deal with tier 9 tanks. The problem is that even the 217-219 premium pen on the KV-5 and IS-6 are pretty much useless against the new tanks in their own tier. 



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View PostAnymn, on 09 June 2018 - 09:04 AM, said:

For the KV-5, and many other preferential MM tanks, it is be doomed to be quickly over. It totally dislike this, as well as the amount of unrealistic buffs there is coming with it. 

W.o.T. happens to be a game in which we could learn about tank statistics, just by looking into the garage. Plain buffing armor of the KV-5 is therefor, in my opinion, completely wrong!

 

Instead of buffing old preferential MM tanks and give it tier X matchmaking, I suggest a much better sollution:

Give the KV-5 (and other PMM tanks) a tier 7 -1/+2 MM*, while retaining tier 8 priveleges (credits, Frontline, special tier 8 events).

This way, the tanks will fight against the tiers it was intended to fight against, with as worst possibility 3x tier 9/5x tier 8/7x tier 7.

 

This way, no refunds are needed (as the tank is restated in it former glory). It also means it will not ruin the tier 5 gameplay as it is a -1/+2 MM.

 

The best ideas are usually very simple. This might just work.:medal:



Pvt_Duffer #9 Posted 09 June 2018 - 12:22 PM

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View Postvixu, on 09 June 2018 - 09:16 AM, said:

Removing pref mm does not mean that you will be facing tier X all the time. 

Try telling that to the owners of non-PMM tanks and see how far you get.

 

:facepalm:



wobblybob #10 Posted 09 June 2018 - 12:27 PM

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View Postvixu, on 09 June 2018 - 09:16 AM, said:

Why players are trying to keep old KV-5, when it is clearly under-performing?

Because +2/-2 matchmaking in current 3-5-7 for tier 8s is an unfun mess of being fodder for tier X with even the shittiest of pref matchmaking tanks being infinitely more fun than better, full matchmaking counterparts.



Aikl #12 Posted 09 June 2018 - 09:18 PM

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WG claims to have considered the idea, but that it "doesn't look fair".

Of course they're partial to disregarding it for the sake of their holy 3-5-7, but it wouldn't look good. Also, in comes the 'pay to won't accusations.

Bet that's why they're keeping the Vk100.01P in the game - though I remember some unofficial mention of it not being "worth it" to nerf OP but unpopular tanks.

hasnainrakha57 #13 Posted 09 June 2018 - 09:53 PM

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Lol u noob u say tier 8 are food for tier 10 lol little brains I play tier 8 if there are tier 10s then there are only max of 3 tier 10s in each team!.U guys talk like there are 14 tier 10s and u r the 15th tier 8!

arthurwellsley #14 Posted 09 June 2018 - 09:53 PM

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View Postvixu, on 09 June 2018 - 09:16 AM, said:

Why players are trying to keep old KV-5, when it is clearly under-performing?

Removing pref mm does not mean that you will be facing tier X all the time. 
And in my books, it is better to have tank that can pull its weight in t9 battles, but can occasionally get into tX, then to have a tank that can barely work in T8, And many of pref-mm tanks are fairly poor compared to normal counterparts.

 

Your are very wrong.

 

1. You do not have a KV-5 on your account.

2. It works fine with pref MM. It is not "clearly underperforming".

3. Owners do not want pref MM removed.

4. If WG remove pref MM then owners want cold hard cash returned and not ingame currency.

 

I have a 67% win rate with mine.


Edited by arthurwellsley, 09 June 2018 - 09:56 PM.


vixu #15 Posted 09 June 2018 - 10:36 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 09 June 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

 

Your are very wrong.

 

1. You do not have a KV-5 on your account.

2. It works fine with pref MM. It is not "clearly underperforming".

3. Owners do not want pref MM removed.

4. If WG remove pref MM then owners want cold hard cash returned and not ingame currency.

 

I have a 67% win rate with mine.

 

You are more of an exception to the rule. 

According to VB-addict, KV-5 holds the proud last place for tiers 8-10. and 67th/92 tiers 6-10.

 
 

View PostPvt_Duffer, on 09 June 2018 - 12:22 PM, said:

Try telling that to the owners of non-PMM tanks and see how far you get.

 

:facepalm:

 

Today out of 6 games in t9 never seen tX. 


 

vasilinhorulezz #16 Posted 09 June 2018 - 11:48 PM

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The solution is easier than that,

buff IS 6 and KV 5 penetration,

and change the MM,

make 5/10 the first priority, then same tier and 3/5/7 last.

GG WP.



Sushil #17 Posted 10 June 2018 - 07:58 AM

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Why not give it +0/-2 MM and still keep ut at tier 8 with no changes in current configuration.




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