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Search_Warrant #1 Posted 12 June 2018 - 01:02 AM

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Im sick and tierd of getting clipped and yolod for all my hitpoints by some right click left click yolo rushing crayon eaters, seriously then you make them get profit from doing stupid ****?!! not good enough you made Spaghetto with 212pen and 240 with good gun handling with a autoloader?!

 

Lorrain40t with its 232ap 300 alpha clip? WHY?!?! I HATE AUTOLOADERS SO GOD DAM MUCH! THEY RIP YOU APART AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!

 

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Edited by Search_Warrant, 12 June 2018 - 10:27 AM.


Homer_J #2 Posted 12 June 2018 - 01:12 AM

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Thanks for sharing.

 

Yes I hate it when I'm caught with my pants down and no support too.

 

Strangely when I go storming in after some stray loner with my autoloader he suddenly has backup and it ends badly for me.



PervyPastryPuffer #3 Posted 12 June 2018 - 01:35 AM

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I know exactly how you feel bro.

 



Spurtung #4 Posted 12 June 2018 - 01:49 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 12 June 2018 - 02:12 AM, said:

Thanks for sharing.

 

Yes I hate it when I'm caught with my pants down and no support too.

 

Strangely when I go storming in after some stray loner with my autoloader he suddenly has backup and it ends badly for me.

 

It's like you're saying OP got punished for being trying to be a hero or something, so awkward...

SlenderMoose #5 Posted 12 June 2018 - 02:35 AM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 12 June 2018 - 01:02 AM, said:

Im sick and tierd of getting clipped and yolod for all ym hitpoints by some right click left click yolo rushing crayon eaters, seriously then you make them get profit from doing stupid ****?!! not good enough you made Spaghetto with 212pen and 240 with good gun handling with a autoloader?!

 

Lorrain40t with tis 232ap 300 alpha clip? WHY?!?! I HATE AUTOLOADERS SO GOD DAM MUCH! THEY RIP YOU APART AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!

 

/vent

 

u forgot to mention Somua! 

Edited by SlenderMoose, 12 June 2018 - 12:43 PM.


Jigabachi #6 Posted 12 June 2018 - 03:14 AM

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Autoloaders were a mistake in general. On light tanks it might be ok, but everything else is just as balancebreaking as derpguns or ridiculous armor. It all turns the corridor chokepoint meta into a frustrating mess.

MyArmorIsGolden #7 Posted 12 June 2018 - 03:16 AM

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still better than arties.

NoobySkooby #8 Posted 12 June 2018 - 06:50 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 12 June 2018 - 03:16 AM, said:

still better than arties.

 

I prefer arties to lights,luckily I don't have the high tier ones, as for the auto loades it depends on the player, if they are good the your in trouble, if it is me, you can usually get out off it:trollface:

Lord_Edge #9 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:07 AM

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View PostMyArmorIsGolden, on 12 June 2018 - 03:16 AM, said:

still better than arties.

 

What about autoloading arty? :P

The_Georgian_One #10 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:18 AM

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I hardly ever get clipped, you must be doing something wrong, OP. How do you get clipped by Lorraine? Were you in tier 6? I much prefer fighting any autoloader than Japanese heavies or red-line-camping huge alpha TDs. Or Swedish TDs. Or clickers. Autoloaders are a non-issue most of the time.



Gremlin182 #11 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:24 AM

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Got loads of autoloader tanks some premium some not.

Curious that your argument isn't with Autoloaders so much as just the premium ones don't the ordinary autoloader also do the same to you.

Anyway they have advantages and disadvantages, learn them watch them carefully and adjust your play.



_Sensation_ #12 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:25 AM

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Lol, If you're getting clipped by a autoloader you should be punished because you probably made a fuckink dumb move. Autoloaders are not a problem and won't ever be. Also the spagetto can put 2x 240 you and then he's reloading for what? 35 - 40 seconds? Just use brains man

Simeon85 #13 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:39 AM

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Autoloaders are fine, yeh it's annoying to be yoloed, but 99% of the time it's very easy to counter and 95% of players are terrible in autoloaders.

 

They are some of the highest skill floor tanks in the game. 



Hedgehog1963 #14 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:45 AM

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View PostGremlin182, on 12 June 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Got loads of autoloader tanks some premium some not.

Curious that your argument isn't with Autoloaders so much as just the premium ones don't the ordinary autoloader also do the same to you.

Anyway they have advantages and disadvantages, learn them watch them carefully and adjust your play.

 

The sense of victim-hood rises if the party perceives someone bought an advantage over him.

 

My sense of pleasure knowing I could clip him in my Lorraine is almost overwhelming.  Schadenfreude has nothing on this.



FluffyRedFox #15 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:49 AM

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The tier 6 swedish prem doesn't seem that bad :/

TheR3dBaron #16 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:49 AM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 12 June 2018 - 01:02 AM, said:

Im sick and tierd of getting clipped and yolod for all ym hitpoints by some right click left click yolo rushing crayon eaters, seriously then you make them get profit from doing stupid ****?!! not good enough you made Spaghetto with 212pen and 240 with good gun handling with a autoloader?!

 

Lorrain40t with tis 232ap 300 alpha clip? WHY?!?! I HATE AUTOLOADERS SO GOD DAM MUCH! THEY RIP YOU APART AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!

 

/vent

 

:sceptic: I shall have some of that good gun handling please!

 

By the way, these things have paper armour, and you imply they are rushing you at the beginning and clip you and die in the process. If they really do that, you probably had been caught with your pants down somewhere getting to a forward position and they just finish you off. Else they wouldn't have the clip size to do this. If that's not the case and they still have their hit points towards the end of the battle, then yes, by all means, well played, since that is what these tanks are all about. It means the player did a good job and probably would have done a good job in any other none-paper tank.

 



Simeon85 #17 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:57 AM

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There is this thing in the top right corner of your screen, it lists what tanks are on the enemy team, so you will know from even before the game starts if the enemy team has autoloaders and what they are.

 

Then in the bottom right of the screen there is this thing called the mini-map, it shows where tanks currently spotted are and crucially also where tanks were last spotted. This gives the information as where the autoloader is, was or that it hasn't been spotted yet, thus giving you clues as to where it might likely be.

 

And finally, if you add that to this thing called 'map knowledge', you'll know the likely areas tanks will be and what types of tanks tend to go where, especially on our generally crappy map rotation that features maps that have few viable positions. 

 

Add all 3 together and you have the ability to predict where an autoloader is going to be and adjust your play accordingly.

 

Finally, I'd also suggest playing one yourself and you'd realise how difficult to play they are. 


Edited by Simeon85, 12 June 2018 - 09:58 AM.


Hedgehog1963 #18 Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:15 AM

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You could have predicted what we find when we check OP's stats. 

 

Yes folks almost 500 battles in a premium autoloader.

 

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Enforcer1975 #19 Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:19 AM

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Autoloaders in general are a broken mechanic. Sure WG wanted to give them a special attack but reload between shells is way too fast especially on high tier ones. 1357 is a slightly different story, it can be very dangerous for lower tiers and very annoying but it still only does 90 damage per shot which is a nuisance for most tanks above it's tier. Some autoloaders also need a nerf in drum reload. 

Spaghetto is actually quite balanced, it can clip you if you have less than 700hp but i has a long reload for the first shell if it empties it's clip which is significantly more than the reload of most tanks in the same tier. 



Negativvv #20 Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:26 AM

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Looks like someone is tilted big time.

 

I had the Lorraine in my garage for ages until I tried it properly.

 

Now I'm an Autoloader noob and proud. So much that I've climbed both USA Autoloader and French Bat Chat lines.

 

Can't get enough of that sweet burst damage and the longer reloads give me time to review the map/flex etc 

 

The salt is especially nice, I'm still laughing now at the time I clipped a FV4202 with a full gold T54E1. The privilege msg after the game was golden :B

 

Maybe they are a bit silly as the Lorraine needs approximately 500 dmg more to 3 Mark than other T8 Prems both Med and HT.






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