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vuque #1 Posted 12 June 2018 - 03:09 PM

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Commanders,

 

Please share your feedback regarding the New USSR Vehicles (К-91, Object 277) on this topic.

 

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lucky552 #2 Posted 12 June 2018 - 03:12 PM

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SlyMeerkat #3 Posted 12 June 2018 - 06:29 PM

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Vadrako #4 Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:03 PM

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I don't like the obj 277 nerfs, are too much.

The problem for me is that the obj 277 and WZ-1115A are almost exactly the same, the obj 277 before the nerf was a better WZ-1115A and the obj 277 after the nerfs became a worse WZ-1115A.

So I don't see the point of having the obj 277 as it plays like a worse WZ-1115A.

 

For me the solution is only one, just make the obj 277 exactly like a T-10 for tier 10.

1) Keep the same hull armor as the T-10 which we all know how easy it can be penned in the front even in the upper plate but keep the new 290mm turret. So in other words, we will have an obj 277 with the same crap hull armor of the T-10 combine with the new turret of obj 277, just to be clear I don't mean the design of the hull armor to be like the T-10 but what I meant is the armor effectiveness.

That way the WZ-1115A will have the advantage of having better armor than T-10 as should be.

2) I agree with the DPM nerf of the obj 277 but disagree with the gun accuracy and aiming time, let the obj 277 have 0.35 accuracy and 2.5 aiming time but worse DPM than the WZ-1115A, so that will balance the difference between the two vehicles plus the WZ-1115A has more gun depression of 7 degrees instead of 5.5 of the obj 277 which makes it better in most situations.

3) Now in order to compensate for the crappy T-10 style hull armor give it more mobility, which means, increase the engine power, traverse and give it better terrain resistances which now are too bad, they are the same with the IS-7 which everybody knows that IS-7 has the worst terrain resistances from all tier 10s vehicles(heavies, TDs, meds) even the Maus, Type5, JPE100 have better.

So in other words I want the obj 277 to have the crappy hull armor of the T-10 but to have great mobility to compensate and right now its mobility its not so good to consider this tank as an upgrade of the T-10.


Edited by Vadrako, 12 June 2018 - 08:07 PM.


xcoool #5 Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:10 PM

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Thank you wg,i ll get golds to convert exp on t10 cause 277  is cr*p.I am very happy that you wasted my time and money as usually.Will get 268.4 which is still more armored than super heavy tank,faster than mediums and has 50% + pene than all heaves in the game.

Yasuziro #6 Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:42 AM

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View Postxcoool, on 12 June 2018 - 09:10 PM, said:

Thank you wg,i ll get golds to convert exp on t10 cause 277  is cr*p.I am very happy that you wasted my time and money as usually.Will get 268.4 which is still more armored than super heavy tank,faster than mediums and has 50% + pene than all heaves in the game.

 

gj EDIT you pretty much do exactly what wargaming wants, be a lemming noob that spends money on the game without any sense 

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Ricky_Rolls #7 Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:16 AM

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Instead of just nerfing the accuracy and the gold pe,n you had to overdo it and ruin it, as usual. This thing is just a bad 113, and since it will most likely never be touched again it will just rust in the tech tree. FeelsBadMan for those who already grinded the T-10 and expected a decent successor.

ozzirra #8 Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:20 AM

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hey wg, 

I dont know if I am on the right topic for this but, 

with the rebalance/ adjustments to the obj. 430 2 the top gun was removed completely instead of switched for the new one.

This means that i now have to grind 59k xp again...

same thing happened to the tracks.

why is it this way? 

 

I hope you can help me with this,

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ignaskarate #9 Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:31 AM

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if 277 suposed to work like poke out and hit enemy at any distance at any position at any speed, when I say like "suprise im in a diferent location going 65km/h" and 277 replies-"i dont care you change your location 2 minutes before, i see you now, go to garage" ,then its ok. I tried to poke in bc25t in diferent locations in the heat of the battle, i seems like if they can fast point mouse over my tank they will hit me 100% and im standing like this stupid donkey for 5 seconds more, trying to aim at tank that just went back behind corner.
 

View PostVadrako, on 12 June 2018 - 07:03 PM, said:

 

 

inreal life T10 is upgrade to IS7 ;)
 

Cotton_Candy_Randy #10 Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:38 PM

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What a sorry excuse of a "heavy" tank 277 is... less hull armor and turret armor than 430u and armor effectiveness is worse than T10... an absolute crap tank with no place in tier 10 at all... sadly i was stupid enough to buy it and i feel so bad right now after a few games with basicly zero bounces everything goes straight thru you no matter Type 5's do an average of 600-700 pr derp so yeah... wish there was a 1 day payback on new tanks...

boven2000 #11 Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:26 PM

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The 277 is absolutely useless. It does not have any armor whatsoever and gets penned by tier 8 tanks all around even in the turret and the gun is terrible, its one of the worst guns compared to T10 heavys outside of the base AP round.

The only thing good about it is its mobility, so you basicly get a very mobile paperweight and possibly the worst russian tank ever.



Simeon85 #12 Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:37 PM

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Sounds very much like a learn to play issue. 

Kalashnikova_blyat #13 Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:05 PM

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277 is like bad develop tank no surprise since we  know WG logic in terms to add new tanks, so RIP 277  rust in my garage :(

Wladimir_W #14 Posted 13 June 2018 - 05:28 PM

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obj 277 has been nerfed too much, wasted time and gold, never do that mistake again and never grind before the final patch is released on a production server. Coming back to WZ now, it`s much better

Lowered #15 Posted 13 June 2018 - 05:54 PM

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Spend 6 millions on Obj 277.... 

Spend on equipment, put cammo on... 

Go to game, it's a goddamn pile of crap (cant say worst)....

 

Thanks WG for another useless heavy and less creds on my account.

 

View PostSimeon85, on 13 June 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

Sounds very much like a learn to play issue. 

 

With those stats, and you talk like that? Awesome!
 

Objec7 #16 Posted 13 June 2018 - 06:25 PM

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Seems like WG took again the easy way out and nerfed Obj. 277 by the biggest nerf suggestion. Like people said, it's a crap and way worse tier by tier than T-10 is and T-10 is balanced. No reason to play this over any current meta tank. Sure, I will buy it because I spent my time to grind XP for it but it's dissapointing how WG tries to prove community that they listen but they do it so wrong. I just hope this is not WG's future policy.

markyb_1 #17 Posted 13 June 2018 - 06:43 PM

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220,000 research for object 277,     when are wargaming going to stop taking the p---- out of the players

WoT_RU_Doing #18 Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:08 PM

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Very happy having killed both today, thereby getting my Tank Expert medal clean again.

Next I have to complete the grind, and this is one area I do have feedback on...

- When the Ru251 was moved to tier 9, it stayed in my collection as an elite tank while I built up XP for the tier X. Whenever I converted XP to free XP, the Ru251 was greyed out by default, so I would have to actually tick it to convert Ru251 XP to Free XP

- When the Obj 430 II and T-10 were moved to their own mini-lines, they were not set in the same way as the Ru251, so you had to manually deselect them to avoid converting their XP to free XP. Now that they both have tier X tanks as a result of the 1.02 update in their line, this has changed so they act the same way as described for the 251.

Prior to the update I was once too quick to convert experience, and forgot to deselect them, so the experience I'd earned on them became free XP. I could have made a fuss, raised a ticket, and asked Support to convert it back, but I didn't want to sit waiting for a few days, so the grind started again. I'm not too bothered, but for any future line changes like this, it would be good if the line were deselected by default.

 


 


 

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slimez #19 Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:11 PM

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T10 is still elite?  Can't grind XP for the 277 ..... 

;( 


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View PostObjec7, on 13 June 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

 but it's dissapointing how WG tries to prove community that they listen but they do it so wrong. I just hope this is not WG's future policy.

 

Keep dreaming boi. Just like all the other tanks that came up and are trash (705A, kranvagn, amx m4 54, progetto etc...) they'll never be touched. This is just how WG work and how they'll always work until this game dies.


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