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which is better the Obj. 277 or the WZ-111 5A

  1. Obj. 277 (8 votes [18.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  2. WZ-111 5A (36 votes [81.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 81.82%

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Grimm2012 #1 Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:00 PM

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which heavy tank is better the Russian Obj. 277 or the Chinese WZ-111 5A

do you think if you have the WZ-111 5A you will be in need to have the Obj. 277 consider they look alike each other in many ways  

 

for my self i think Obj. 277 was a good heavy tank before nerf, but now it has nothing special


Edited by Grimm2012, 13 June 2018 - 03:40 PM.


vasilinhorulezz #2 Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:18 PM

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The whole point with the WZ is dpm and gun depression,

with worse levels of armor compared to other heavies,

277 is a bit better armored and probably a bit faster.

It's up to the players to decide what they want.



Flavortown #3 Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:05 PM

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For cw 5a all the way, but for randoms 277 is quite fun to play

trusteft #4 Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:09 PM

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Too early to say.

My only problem with the 277 is that every time I get penned I lose 12 modules and 15 crew members.

It is fun to drive and has a great gun.

 

 



leggasiini #5 Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:20 PM

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5A is better on competitive formats, but 277 is not an awful pick for randoms, as it is bit faster and has more comfy gun, so it can be more fun to play for some.

HKGenetik #6 Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:28 PM

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The armor is not even close the IS7's. "Slighty better armor than5a" doesnt mean it will have more bounces. Actually I think it is very unfun to play because of the modul damage it takes from every shot.

Grimm2012 #7 Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:39 PM

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i wish if WG didn't nerf the Obj. 277

it wasn't over power



if WZ-111 5A is clearly better than Obj. 277, then why WOT nerfed the Obj. 277
 

Edited by Daxeno, 14 June 2018 - 04:50 PM.


TrewSx #8 Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:55 PM

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Where is the fuel tank and ammo rack located on Obj 277 ? 

Flavortown #9 Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:18 PM

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View PostGrimm2012, on 13 June 2018 - 10:49 PM, said:

if WZ-111 5A is clearly better than Obj. 277, then why WOT nerfed the Obj. 277

 

Boohoo wg didnt give me a op tank :(
5a has dpm
277 has armor and gun handling 

get over it



HKGenetik #10 Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:43 PM

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View PostFlavortown, on 13 June 2018 - 11:18 PM, said:

 

Boohoo wg didnt give me a op tank :(
5a has dpm
277 has armor and gun handling 

get over it

 

277actually has paper armor(even has a gunmantlet weakspot on the turret) and worse aimtime. When we are neutral the tank is pretty avarage and definetly not even close to the strength of an 5a.

Grimm2012 #11 Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:03 AM

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View PostFlavortown, on 13 June 2018 - 10:18 PM, said:

 

Boohoo wg didnt give me a op tank :(
5a has dpm
277 has armor and gun handling 

get over it

 

what are you saying?

277 has strong armor!

actually 277 has nothing especial, its speed is average, its gun is average, its armor is much lower than average, the only good think about this tank was the gun and now after the nerf it's average

or even lower

the new nerfed Obj. 277 is just a big disappointing  


Edited by Grimm2012, 14 June 2018 - 12:04 AM.


Nazgarth #12 Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:26 AM

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Of course the 277 wont be OP. Nearly everyone has had the T-10 for years, so little revenue to be gained from free XPing to the 277.

Flavortown #13 Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:50 AM

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View PostGrimm2012, on 14 June 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

 

what are you saying?

277 has strong armor!

actually 277 has nothing especial, its speed is average, its gun is average, its armor is much lower than average, the only good think about this tank was the gun and now after the nerf it's average

or even lower

the new nerfed Obj. 277 is just a big disappointing  

 

Well i guess your average must be pretty damn high.
Out of all the heviums in tier 10 it has the best: Gun handling, penetration values in ap and depending on your preference the best armor layout.

Or then the other option here is that you havent even touched the whole tank or even 5a. 
Only tank similiar to 277 that you have played is is7 and in that you cant even do more damage than you have hitpoints.

 

So i would suggest to try the tank and then judge. Also stop expecting wg to give you op tanks to compensate for your incompetence



Ricky_Rolls #14 Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:14 AM

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It's not even about the 5a, the 113 is better than the 277. Really nice and usefull addition to the game.

LordMuffin #15 Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:32 PM

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So players are whining because the new T10 tank is not retardedly overpowered....

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View PostLordMuffin, on 14 June 2018 - 03:32 PM, said:

So players are whining because the new T10 tank is not retardedly overpowered....

 

pretty much, the idiots wanted another 268-4 from the looks of it, thankfully WG seemingly have made a semi balanced Russian tank for once. Damned if they do damned if they don't as I've said previously.

arthurwellsley #17 Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:12 PM

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WG have done an excellent job with the Object 277 and are to be congratulated. IT IS WELL BALANCED.

 

I have put 150,000 experience on the T-10, and will buy the Object 277 because it will be better in randoms.

 

I already own the WZ 111-5A which will be of more use in Clan Wars.

 

Well done to WarGaming for getting these two very close, and yet each having a slightly different niche.



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 14 June 2018 - 05:12 PM, said:

WG have done an excellent job with the Object 277 and are to be congratulated. IT IS WELL BALANCED.

 

I have put 150,000 experience on the T-10, and will buy the Object 277 because it will be better in randoms.

 

I already own the WZ 111-5A which will be of more use in Clan Wars.

 

Well done to WarGaming for getting these two very close, and yet each having a slightly different niche.

 

And how does the Object 277 compare with the 113, because I already have the 133....

 

Is it worth it?


Edited by pecopad, 14 June 2018 - 05:18 PM.


Dosjer007 #19 Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:27 PM

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View PostNazgarth, on 14 June 2018 - 12:26 AM, said:

Of course the 277 wont be OP. Nearly everyone has had the T-10 for years, so little revenue to be gained from free XPing to the 277.

This guy understands WG logic.

 

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View Postpecopad, on 14 June 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

 

And how does the Object 277 compare with the 113, because I already have the 133....

 

Is it worth it?

Higher alpha lower dpm.

Slightly better gun handling, 5km/h higher top speed, otherwise mobility looks more or less equal.

100 less hp.

 

Armour differences I can't check on phone.

 

Main difference if armour models are more or less equal.

490 alpha to 440.

2450dpm to 2750 dpm.

 






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