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VendettaSRB #1 Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:18 PM

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What is the point of playing TD's and Heavy tanks just so you can put them bottom tier?

My opinion is - heavies and TD's should never be 2 tiers down, otherwise they lose the point.

You can keep mediums lights and arty the same - they can deal with going 2 tiers lower.

But TD's and heavies should never be bottom tier.

 

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Homer_J #2 Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:29 PM

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Dear VendettaSRB uninstall.  Thanks.

DarkPacifist #3 Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:30 PM

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OIias_of_Sunhillow #4 Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:33 PM

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View PostVendettaSRB, on 13 June 2018 - 08:18 PM, said:

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Perhaps a single player game is more suited to you.

It's quite obvious you have no idea of, 'team', play.



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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 13 June 2018 - 08:33 PM, said:

 

 

Perhaps a single player game is more suited to you.

It's quite obvious you have no idea of, 'team', play.

 

funny thing you say that because the game is in fact not fun to play because your """""TEAM""""" is always full of *edit .

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VendettaSRB #6 Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:37 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 13 June 2018 - 09:29 PM, said:

Dear VendettaSRB uninstall.  Thanks.

 

So you think everyone who complains is wrong and should uninstall?

Homer_J #7 Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:44 PM

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View PostVendettaSRB, on 13 June 2018 - 09:37 PM, said:

 

So you think everyone who complains is wrong and should uninstall?

 

No I think everyone who acts like a childish donkey when they aren't getting their way should uninstall.

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View PostVendettaSRB, on 13 June 2018 - 08:18 PM, said:

What is the point of playing TD's and Heavy tanks just so you can put them bottom tier?

My opinion is - heavies and TD's should never be 2 tiers down, otherwise they lose the point.

You can keep mediums lights and arty the same - they can deal with going 2 tiers lower.

But TD's and heavies should never be bottom tier.

 

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Because your stats show you are such a terrible player... :rolleyes:

VendettaSRB #9 Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:53 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 13 June 2018 - 09:44 PM, said:

 

No I think everyone who acts like a childish donkey when they aren't getting their way should uninstall.

 

I value my time too much. If I see that it won't be fun playing stock T28 or Caernevaron against tier X's I resign. If that is acting like a childish donkey, then I am the biggest and proud.

But there is something inherently wrong with how you think. Your first reaction to critique is to brush it off as that someone is an idiot/noob/donkey. You don't even try to understand the viewpoint, or understand but don't care. That's idiotic.

 

View PostBordhaw, on 13 June 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

 

Because your stats show you are such a terrible player... :rolleyes:

 

Dude, seriously I am not here to measure [edited]. I am good, better than average. I could probably be better if I don't resign and really play this game as a chore. But that is not the point. The point is - that games should be fun to play. And in order for me to enjoy this game I need to quit 20 percent each day. That means something is bad with the core of this game. And if not addressed, then I don't see this business model thriving for a long time.
 

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Browarszky #10 Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:57 PM

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View PostVendettaSRB, on 13 June 2018 - 08:53 PM, said:

 

I value my time too much. If I see that it won't be fun playing stock T28 or Caernevaron against tier X's I resign. If that is acting like a childish donkey, then I am the biggest and proud.

But there is something inherently wrong with how you think. Your first reaction to critique is to brush it off as that someone is an idiot/noob/donkey. You don't even try to understand the viewpoint, or understand but don't care. That's idiotic.

 

I suggest you focus on a nation/line/tier that you find enjoyable. If your crews have low skills that's going to be a major factor, too. For instance, I'm doing something incredibly stupidly right as we 'speak'... trying to grind Churchill VII... my crew can barely manage to get the hatch open...

Edited by Browarszky, 13 June 2018 - 09:59 PM.


Jigabachi #11 Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:00 PM

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Oooor... we leave it as it is and fix the broken gamebaance instead.

Browarszky #12 Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:02 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 13 June 2018 - 09:00 PM, said:

Oooor... we leave it as it is and fix the broken gamebaance instead.

 

Odds?

Homer_J #13 Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:02 PM

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View PostVendettaSRB, on 13 June 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

 

I value my time too much.

Then uninstall and stop wasting it on a computer game you don't like.

 

If you uninstall it will be better for you and for the rest of us too.



VendettaSRB #14 Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:05 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 13 June 2018 - 10:02 PM, said:

Then uninstall and stop wasting it on a computer game you don't like.

 

If you uninstall it will be better for you and for the rest of us too.

 

I obviously enjoy parts of it, since I am arguing here with a child.

Browarszky #15 Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:08 PM

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er... Back on topic.. I've myself wondered what is the point of matching HT's against tanks 2 tiers higher. Being two tiers down makes most HT's completely useless for the player and the team. Of course, it applies to both teams so the team play gets balanced, but it's not really very good for the fun factor or for grinding credits or xp.

Nishi_Kinuyo #16 Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:56 PM

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Dear OP,

Git gud.

Sincerely,

Nishi Kinuyo.



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View PostVendettaSRB, on 13 June 2018 - 08:53 PM, said:

 

I value my time too much. If I see that it won't be fun playing stock T28 or Caernevaron against tier X's I resign. If that is acting like a childish donkey, then I am the biggest and proud.

But there is something inherently wrong with how you think. Your first reaction to critique is to brush it off as that someone is an idiot/noob/donkey. You don't even try to understand the viewpoint, or understand but don't care. That's idiotic.

 

Whilst Homer might have been a bit tactless, there is in fact something wrong with how you think. I sincerely hope I never have you in my games, not even in the enemy team, because I want to play a good game rather than face a team who is a gun down 'cause somebody couldn't be arsed to do their best in the game they're apparently only pretending to play. And I wouldn't want you on my team for similar reasons.

 

Being lowest tier pretty much sucks for everyone, but the game is designed around trying to push you up the tiers, keeping that progress/reward feeling going while putting you into a position where you need to buy stuff to keep your credit flow going. A low tier medium or light tank has as much trouble as a same tier heavy or TD does.

 

The problem seems to be that you play your tank types the same way no matter what tier you are, and that's not very well thought-out. Add to that that some heavies play like mediums, some mediums play like heavies, some TDs are assault TDs, other TDs are paper camp sniper TDs, and your suggestion simply doesn't make sense in the game design. Add to that that if such a change were actually implemented, the prevalence of those tank types in games would shoot up dramatically because virtually *nobody* likes being bottom tier.

 

So there is something inherently wrong in your suggestion, you come on the forums to "suggest" a change that is unworkable, freely admit to breaking the game rules in the process, all in favour of two tank types, one of which happens to be your favourite as you have nearly half your games played in heavy tanks, and somehow you came to the conclusion that this was the way to go while everyone else just sees a guy who selfishly demands a change "or else".



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View PostVendettaSRB, on 13 June 2018 - 09:18 PM, said:

What is the point of playing TD's and Heavy tanks just so you can put them bottom tier?

 

TDs, as a general rule have the best guns for their tier (penetration, damage), so going against +2 tier tanks should not be an issue.

Heavy tanks, might have some issues, mostly because of armor not being strong enough,

but the same applies to lets say, light tanks,

just check the guns of tier 8 lights,

- Bulldog, 175 pen, 215 premium HEAT, 170 damage, and this tank fight tier 10s

- Same for T92 with even less damage at 150.

Do I need to go on?

Seriously?

 

 

 

It's mostly a LTP issue than a tank issue.



VendettaSRB #19 Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:10 PM

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I enjoy playing light tanks and I don't mind being bottom tier. I also don't mind playing meds as bottom tier. I don't care what tier I am when playing arty. But saying that I only want a change for heavies because I play them the most is false. There is literally no sense in playing a heavy slow tank that only rellies on armor, when being bottom tier. Same goes with TD's that relly on high pen. Don't focus on what tanks I play, focus on what I said. And what I said makes perfect sense. I didn't even say be top tier always. I said they should never be 2 tiers lower. One tier is fine.

Edited by VendettaSRB, 13 June 2018 - 11:14 PM.


Browarszky #20 Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:12 PM

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In other words, what they are saying is that different tactics are needed for spearheading and for support roles. Sadly, I myself have to admit I haven't yet figured out what in each case for each tank is the best and smartest thing to do. A lot of people (myself included) might appreciate if there are some simple guidelines for this.

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