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NoobySkooby #1 Posted 16 June 2018 - 07:33 PM

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Usually mischievous ones:trollface:

 

Sometimes I struggle to understand the hatred of arty players, good or bad they are just like you guys:D

 

 

So give em a break, if you can't beat em, join em:D



ThinGun #2 Posted 16 June 2018 - 07:38 PM

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Having tried to play arty and failed miserably, I have a certain sympathy for them.  It's a very difficult playing style, and when you do master it, everyone abuses you.  Seems unfair.

15JG52Brauer #3 Posted 16 June 2018 - 07:51 PM

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I started to play arty way back after being made thoroughly miserable in some of my grinds back in the  days when 6 or 7 arty per team was commonplace - back then everyone hated arty , and I did as well - in fact in spite of playing an awfull lot of arty and kind of being a CW arty specialist, I still hate being hit by arty - but generally I dont hate the individual players, as they are just playing the game - and if they didnt play it someone else would - in the same way I didnt hate WTF E100 drivers, or  Dethstar drivers either .

jack_timber #4 Posted 16 June 2018 - 08:04 PM

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Yes as an arty player ridiculed, abused and generally the whipping boy, that's just from the wife never mind the forumites.

Do I care? Couldn't give two hoots what others say or think I will play what I want to play, usually badly.

Feel a lot better now, now where's me M53/55 so I can spoil someone's battle:)



PervyPastryPuffer #5 Posted 16 June 2018 - 08:05 PM

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People need to open their eyes and realize arty control the battlefield. They are God's hands. They can strike you down like lightning out of a clear sky, like the wrath of God himself.

 

They decide who lives and who dies, they decide the battle tactics simply by their very presence.

 

You have been enlightened, spread this message.

 

 

 

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MeNoobTank #6 Posted 16 June 2018 - 08:08 PM

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I mostly hate the LeFeFefe (but those are rearly seen these days) and the auto-loading french arty players that like to bully one tank in a match, when you get targeted by them you know your game is done...

Thuis001 #7 Posted 16 June 2018 - 08:17 PM

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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 16 June 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:

People need to open their eyes and realize arty control the battlefield. They are God's hands. They can strike you down like lightning out of a clear sky, like the wrath of God himself.

 

They decide who lives and who dies, they decide the battle tactics simply by their very presence.

 

You have been enlightened, spread this message.

 

 

 

...:trollface:

 

Yeah, sums up most of the issues with Arty, however, in most cases it is a poor player doing the striking which makes it even worse. The fact that it lacks a counter play makes it completely broken.

PervyPastryPuffer #8 Posted 16 June 2018 - 08:26 PM

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View PostThuis001, on 16 June 2018 - 08:17 PM, said:

 

Yeah, sums up most of the issues with Arty, however, in most cases it is a poor player doing the striking which makes it even worse. The fact that it lacks a counter play makes it completely broken.

 

Only arty can counter another arty. (less effectively now after the major rebalance :sceptic:)

 

...fight fire with fire? :hiding:



Erwin_Von_Braun #9 Posted 16 June 2018 - 09:14 PM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 16 June 2018 - 06:33 PM, said:

Usually mischievous ones:trollface:

 

Sometimes I struggle to understand the hatred of arty players, good or bad they are just like you guys:D

 

 

So give em a break, if you can't beat em, join em:D

 

Weird thing is, I give the haters as much crap as they give us and that makes ME a *edited*poster:teethhappy:

Seems they enjoy dishing out the grief but can't take it:D


Edited by NickMustaine, 17 June 2018 - 08:23 AM.
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Desyatnik_Pansy #10 Posted 16 June 2018 - 09:17 PM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 16 June 2018 - 07:33 PM, said:

Sometimes I struggle to understand the hatred of arty players, good or bad they are just like you guys:D

 

It's not that hard to really understand. Think of any other game with something similar. An artillery truck camping in deployment on BF1, or heck just a tank that camps there hoping for that one moment where he actually lands a shot from that distance. The guy who camps the sniper on Halo, then rushes to the furthest spot he can and sits there all game. The Commander on Rising Storm/Red Orchestra who stays back at the furthest radio possible so he's not going to get killed by anyone seeking to take him out, and keeps yelling at SLs for marks so he can just farm kills without ever being threatened.

 

People don't like things that detract from playing their own game, especially when it's something that's incredibly hard and/or effectively impossible to directly counter themselves.



Balc0ra #11 Posted 16 June 2018 - 10:12 PM

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I mostly play arty for missions ofc. And to know their limits. Like my current French tier 9 grind. That can't hit anything if you so much as hug a ridgeline. Tho oddly enough... I've not gotten a single rage PM this grind. Just the odd rage from my teammates that have me mistaken for someone with a 5 sec reload time, 999 pen and 3000 damage. Or for not helping with their 6 vs 1, when there is a 2 vs 4 on the other side. Those I get rage PM's from.  But not targets. 

 

View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 16 June 2018 - 09:17 PM, said:

People don't like things that detract from playing their own game, especially when it's something that's incredibly hard and/or effectively impossible to directly counter themselves.


There is one thing in every game that gets that hate. If arty was removed, or even never added. I can guarantee that one of the other classes would take over. I suspect TD's would be the one to hate then. Just like the "bushwookie" hate on BFBC2. Their forum was full of hate for the sniper class back in the day I remember. As they could ruin a "good" 1 on 1 form several 100m away. As they got 1 point pr meter on headshots. So farming at 900m late on rush games was not uncommon :P 


Edited by Balc0ra, 16 June 2018 - 10:15 PM.


Desyatnik_Pansy #12 Posted 16 June 2018 - 10:32 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 16 June 2018 - 10:12 PM, said:

There is one thing in every game that gets that hate. If arty was removed, or even never added. I can guarantee that one of the other classes would take over. I suspect TD's would be the one to hate then. Just like the "bushwookie" hate on BFBC2. Their forum was full of hate for the sniper class back in the day I remember. As they could ruin a "good" 1 on 1 form several 100m away. As they got 1 point pr meter on headshots. So farming at 900m late on rush games was not uncommon :P 

 

To be honest though, I think TDs wouldn't near as much hate. Using Battlefield as the example, when an annoying sniper starts taking potshots at me on BF1 Then he's mostly just telling me where he is. If I want, I can directly go and counter him (though personally not much my thing because then I have to take the 2 Minute sprint to get him, then 2 Minutes to get back to playing the objective) or just avoid going to where he can aim. However, when that mortar artillery truck sitting in his deployment starts firing at me, then I'm really pissed off. If he's in his deployment, I can't do eff-all to him unless it's a map with a plane, and even then I'll specifically have to spawn the Tank Hunter Attack Plane (Bombers work too, but the AP Would be better since it's more mobile so I'm less threatened by his own planes or his friendly AA).

If I'm unfortunate enough to be playing a map like Suez or Amiens (next to Argonne they're my second favourite maps, humorously because they don't have planes) and that happens, then I literally just have to put up with it. With BF1 Atleast I can put that aside though to some extent because in place of that guy could be a decent tanker in an A7V Or something who actually plays the game, but even that doesn't detract from the annoyance of getting hit or killed by some guy I can't do anything about just because I'm trying to play the game.

 

Bushwookie snipers are definitely the TDs, while the mortar artillery truck (fitting that it has artillery in the name) is the arty. Even though the bushwookie snipers certainly will be annoying and to some they'll just entirely turn their hate from arty to them were arty to be removed, I still personally couldn't even compare the hatred towards arty to the petty annoyance of TDs. Of course, I don't speak for everyone mind you, so I won't try to pretend that won't be the case for all. Just speaking my own crap here.


Edited by Desyatnik_Pansy, 16 June 2018 - 10:32 PM.


TheComfyChair #13 Posted 16 June 2018 - 10:44 PM

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I think I play a fair mix of different tanks...stat folks could probably disagree because I don't keep count. I am not keen on this "clicker" tag. It seems a bit daft because everyone fires using their mouse button or do some people headbutt the space bar to fire, press the mouse wheel, drop a small weight on a certain key on the keyboard??

Presume this will get locked soon and disappear into the dusty vaults of arty threads though :hiding:
 

Erwin_Von_Braun #14 Posted 16 June 2018 - 11:19 PM

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View PostTheComfyChair, on 16 June 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

Presume this will get locked soon and disappear into the dusty vaults of arty threads though :hiding:

 

Whatever makes you say that?

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 16 June 2018 - 11:19 PM, said:

 

Whatever makes you say that?

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Sunshinetrooper #16 Posted 17 June 2018 - 01:05 AM

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View PostThuis001, on 16 June 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

 

Yeah, sums up most of the issues with Arty, however, in most cases it is a poor player doing the striking which makes it even worse. The fact that it lacks a counter play makes it completely broken.

 

I just got out of a game with no arty on Prokhorovka,  it was interesting to see tanks take different approaches but my god, the game ended up being an additional 7 mins of people not moving forward. If arty were in the game, the pace would of been quickened. In the end, I got top gun as TD as the enemy got bored of sitting around and moved forward 1 at a time. 



Grimmx #17 Posted 17 June 2018 - 08:00 AM

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They should just remove 3 arty games and go max 2, but unfortunately wargaming sem to be run by people that don’t play their own game.

I do mission arty myself and do see the need for arty against hull down heavies etc, but problem is when several arty go xvm hunting instead.

What’s even more troubling is wargamings inept way of handling arty in game balance, but what’s new.

Sfinski #18 Posted 17 June 2018 - 08:22 AM

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If arty players had feelings they wouldn't play arty.

SuNo_TeSLa #19 Posted 17 June 2018 - 08:39 AM

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View PostSfinski, on 17 June 2018 - 07:22 AM, said:

If arty players had feelings they wouldn't play arty.

 

Best reply in this thread so far :D

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I know it's not like this,....but whenever I come across someone who likes arty .... I get this image in my head of a zitfaced teen going around with matches and gazoline ... looking for kittens to see if he can make them go VOOF :/

 

 






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