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Poll: Obj. 277 nerfed (129 members have cast votes)

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do you agree by the way that WG nerfed the Obj. 277?

  1. Yes (69 votes [53.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.49%

  2. No (60 votes [46.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.51%

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Grimm2012 #1 Posted 17 June 2018 - 02:59 AM

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after the test version of Obj. 277, WG nerfed it, do you agree by the way that WG nerfed the Obj. 277 or you wish if it didn't do that. at lest to try the first version of the Obj. 277 in the live server.

the first link below shows the Obj. 277 before the nerf the second link shows it after the nerf.

1- https://tanks.gg/v10020ct/tank/obj-277

2- https://tanks.gg/tank/obj-277



Envoy_MT #2 Posted 17 June 2018 - 07:35 AM

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Of course.

ogremage #3 Posted 17 June 2018 - 07:38 AM

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Don't like it, don't buy it. No loss to anyone.

Better than releasing OP and then nerfing.

 

Obj 430 II changes though are bad.


Edited by ogremage, 17 June 2018 - 07:39 AM.


leggasiini #4 Posted 17 June 2018 - 08:55 AM

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The Object 277 is kinda balanced now, it’s actually a quite good tank; it’s just that the 5A is overall better but I dont think thats a bad thing cus the 5A is very strong. The test server 277 was too strong, 350 pen APCR with 490 alpha, great accuracy and good DPM was just stupid.

 

I kinda wish they kept the 0.35 base accuracy, tho



HundeWurst #5 Posted 17 June 2018 - 09:07 AM

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The tank would have been way to OP if they would have released it the way it initially was like.

 

Even now 5000 DPG is possible in that machine, and there are not a lot of tanks out there which can manage such numbers. For the current meta its well balanced for once. It is better in certain aspects but worse in others.



Flavortown #6 Posted 17 June 2018 - 09:16 AM

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Seriously op, can you atleast try the thing you are whining about next time you want to post about it not being op enough to carry your sorry [edited]through everything.

For randoms it is one of the playable ones and despite my best efforts to lose every game i can in it, its still good enough for a crayon muncher like me to get above 3k dpg

krismorgan #7 Posted 17 June 2018 - 02:15 PM

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Never an option for `dont care` so no vote.

vasilinhorulezz #8 Posted 17 June 2018 - 04:28 PM

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When WG introduces OP premium or tech-tree tanks, someone complains,

when WG tries to make tanks more balanced, guess what...someone complains.

I mean seriously, that 1800m/s round with 350mm pen was broken,

also if it had the same dpm as the WZ, it would powercreep it.

The tank is fine as it is, stop complain.



denisdenikr #9 Posted 18 June 2018 - 04:20 AM

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Its not problem that tank have bean re-balanced, but that its useless out of Randoms...Because why use 277, when A5 will do everything better? So again, I agree that WG decided to not bring another OP tank, but I would also agree if they decide to nerf A5, SC, V4, and remove that broken derp gun on Type 5... But yeah, sweet dreams...

 


Edited by denisdenikr, 18 June 2018 - 04:23 AM.


Suurpolskija #10 Posted 18 June 2018 - 04:49 AM

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For once it's a balanced tier x.

Mr_Beefy #11 Posted 18 June 2018 - 07:56 AM

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8k dmg top gun = 1st class. 2nd class rather.

Hmmmmmm.


Edited by Mr_Beefy, 18 June 2018 - 08:01 AM.


HundeWurst #12 Posted 18 June 2018 - 08:42 AM

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View Postdenisdenikr, on 18 June 2018 - 04:20 AM, said:

Its not problem that tank have bean re-balanced, but that its useless out of Randoms...Because why use 277, when A5 will do everything better? So again, I agree that WG decided to not bring another OP tank, but I would also agree if they decide to nerf A5, SC, V4, and remove that broken derp gun on Type 5... But yeah, sweet dreams...

 

 

I dont know what game you are playing but the Obj. 277 is VERY far from being useless. Its one of the strongest tanks in the game right now. Yes its not stupid OP any more. Thats true! Its different but not better.

The WZ5A might look better on paper, but in reality the Obj.277 is super close to it.

Stop f***ing complaing about this and start learn to play the game. You guys honestly have no idea what you are talking about.



arthurwellsley #13 Posted 18 June 2018 - 08:48 AM

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Yes. It needed the nerfs that WG gave it

 

It is still good. But now it's actually balanced.

 

The OP's judgement comes from owning only four tier X tanks;


Edited by arthurwellsley, 18 June 2018 - 08:48 AM.


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View PostHundeWurst, on 18 June 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

 

I dont know what game you are playing but the Obj. 277 is VERY far from being useless. Its one of the strongest tanks in the game right now. Yes its not stupid OP any more. Thats true! Its different but not better.

The WZ5A might look better on paper, but in reality the Obj.277 is super close to it.

Stop f***ing complaing about this and start learn to play the game. You guys honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

 

The truth has been spoken, let the saltstorm of the less educated begin :trollface:

Edited by _Sensation_, 18 June 2018 - 08:51 AM.


Mr_Beefy #15 Posted 18 June 2018 - 09:02 AM

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View PostHundeWurst, on 18 June 2018 - 09:42 AM, said:

 

I dont know what game you are playing but the Obj. 277 is VERY far from being useless. Its one of the strongest tanks in the game right now. Yes its not stupid OP any more. Thats true! Its different but not better.

The WZ5A might look better on paper, but in reality the Obj.277 is super close to it.

Stop f***ing complaing about this and start learn to play the game. You guys honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Personally, I think that FC's will be calling 277 now instead of 5A.  And if they aren't, I think they are making mistakes.

The tank is an absolute beast.



Lord_Edge #16 Posted 18 June 2018 - 10:27 AM

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I don't disagree with nerfing it but I definitely disagree with the way they nerfed it, the ENTIRE point of adding the Object-257, moving the T-10 to a new line and adding a T-10 themed tier X tank was done because of how different the IS-7 was from the T-10 (in many ways a downgrade).  Now they have nerfed the T-10 style aspects of the Object-277 because it was OP, thus reproducing the original problem.  If the Object-277 was OP then it should have had it's non-T10 style aspects nerfed instead, maybe drop the armour a bit, maybe lower the alpha.

 

They should have just moved the T10 to tier X, buffed it slightly then added a weaker Object-277 at tier IX (or just a non-M T-10).  Hell having the best HT the USSR ever produced at tier IX was half the problem in the first place.


Edited by Lord_Edge, 18 June 2018 - 10:30 AM.


Simeon85 #17 Posted 18 June 2018 - 11:06 AM

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People should not be complaining about these nerfs they should be finally giving WG credit for releasing two new tier 10 tanks (Russian ones as well) that are well balanced, being neither OP, nor crap, nor powercreep. 

 

The gun on the first version of the 277 was just too good, it was too medium like. Hybrid heavies like that should not match mediums in terms of gun handling, accuracy, aim time etc. and it did. It's why the 430U needs it's gun handling heavily nerfed to balance out it's stupid armour (and probably it's cupola's nerfed and maybe a speed nerf).

 

430U should have like 0.42 accuracy, dispersion values like 0.18/0.18/0.12, aim time like 2.4-2.5s , it's camo knocked down to more like E50M levels and a top speed of about 45kph, then that would be nerfed it would be a pocket heavy, not just an all round super armoured better medium tank like it is now. 

 

Trades and balances, cons and pros.  That is what the 277 is now, it has some things better than like a 5A, 113 etc. but then some things worse to overall get a more balanced tank. 



Igor_BL #18 Posted 18 June 2018 - 11:13 AM

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277 looks ok. Good tank, but not OP. And that is a problem?

 

I think that tank is just not needed. We dont need more new tanks, more new lines. For a year or so. We need problems to get fixed. Maps to be added. Broken, OP, and UP tanks to get rebalanced. bugs to be solved.
there is at least a year of work behind that.

 

but, if i have to choose between 277 broken as it was and this "little bit weaker 5a"... come on.



denisdenikr #19 Posted 18 June 2018 - 11:54 AM

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View PostHundeWurst, on 18 June 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

 

I dont know what game you are playing but the Obj. 277 is VERY far from being useless. Its one of the strongest tanks in the game right now. Yes its not stupid OP any more. Thats true! Its different but not better.

The WZ5A might look better on paper, but in reality the Obj.277 is super close to it.

Stop f***ing complaing about this and start learn to play the game. You guys honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Maybe you have some problems with brain, but im not one who complaining about OBJ277, its nice well rounded tank... But yeah i know, it would hurt "smart" boys like you if they would nerf A5... It has everything as 277 + DPM + -7 gun depression, plus better tarain resistance, bla bla bla...

Flavortown #20 Posted 18 June 2018 - 12:10 PM

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View Postdenisdenikr, on 18 June 2018 - 11:54 AM, said:

 

Maybe you have some problems with brain, but im not one who complaining about OBJ277, its nice well rounded tank... But yeah i know, it would hurt "smart" boys like you if they would nerf A5... It has everything as 277 + DPM + -7 gun depression, plus better tarain resistance, bla bla bla...

 

Yeah dude what better armor and way better gun handling that 277 has, its basicly same as 5a but with less dpm.

 

I know this might be hard to understand buddy, but you could allways check the stats yourself before you start spewing shite






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