Jump to content


Grinds need to be shorter


  • Please log in to reply
47 replies to this topic

anonym_ONf4riLfS6sJ #1 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:16 PM

    Private

  • Player
  • 0 battles
  • 38
  • Member since:
    09-30-2018

I've already played around 3500 battles, which is, if we count with 7 minute battles (that's near the average according to VBAddict),around 400 hours or 17 days of gameplay. Still, I only have the 13 105 and i'm close to getting the M48 Patton. That is cca. 2000 matches for two tier 10 vehicles, considering I also researched the BC 25AP. 

 

Now lets calculate a little: that means researching one vehicle requires around 1000 battles.There are 47 tier 10 vehicles in game. Researching all needs cca. 1000*47=47000 battles played. That's 230 days of non-stop gaming! And WG adds new tech trees to the game, so this number increases from time to time. Aside that this game is fun, but it's really tedious to grind hundreds of battles just for one tier 10 vehicle. And discouraging to see there are still lost of t10 tanks you'd like to get, but you don't have the time to actually get them.

 

 



signal11th #2 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:18 PM

    Major General

  • Player
  • 37042 battles
  • 5,701
  • [S3AL] S3AL
  • Member since:
    07-14-2011
tbh I don;t really see the "grind" in the game I usually free xp up to at least tier 8 and then stick on boosters and grind the rest.. much better than it used to be, some lines I;ve never bothered with japan/sweden/italy.. it's only a grind if you make it one.

Vergeltungswaffe_2 #3 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:20 PM

    Major General

  • Player
  • 24095 battles
  • 5,324
  • Member since:
    12-04-2012

View PostBatChatMan, on 18 June 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

I've already played around 3500 battles, which is, if we count with 7 minute battles (that's near the average according to VBAddict),around 400 hours or 17 days of gameplay. Still, I only have the 13 105 and i'm close to getting the M48 Patton. That is cca. 2000 matches for two tier 10 vehicles, considering I also researched the BC 25AP. 

 

Now lets calculate a little: that means researching one vehicle requires around 1000 battles.There are 47 tier 10 vehicles in game. Researching all needs cca. 1000*47=47000 battles played. That's 230 days of non-stop gaming! And WG adds new tech trees to the game, so this number increases from time to time. Aside that this game is fun, but it's really tedious to grind hundreds of battles just for one tier 10 vehicle. And discouraging to see there are still lost of t10 tanks you'd like to get, but you don't have the time to actually get them.

 

 

 

if you play better you get more xp, credits etc.

 

try that?


Edited by Vergeltungswaffe_2, 18 June 2018 - 01:20 PM.


DuncaN_101 #4 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:24 PM

    Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 53226 battles
  • 1,892
  • [-B-C-] -B-C-
  • Member since:
    07-29-2011
It's not Pokemon so you don't have to cat... Grind them all you know.

Also some grinds are allot easier then others since they borrow modules from other lines (well they used to) hence the German, British, and Russian lines are very quick to grind.

If you want all the tier 10s that's going to be a choice you make and you will have to invest the time in. Simple as.


UrQuan #5 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:24 PM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 19433 battles
  • 6,182
  • [T-D-U] T-D-U
  • Member since:
    08-19-2011

Best advice I can give is to see what kind of stuff you like it tanks & go for those lines that offer that. If you enjoy faster tanks by example, there's no use for you grinding the british AT TD line, the german heavy HT line or the US armored TD line, as they're all terribly slow & won't offer you much enjoyment.

 

Grinding it all is a practically impossible task, but the wide variety of available tanks means you don't have to worry about being finished with grinding. There will always be something new if you got tired of a tank.

 

By example, I got lucky i found a few tanks early on that really suit me, so I never grinded much. And often, those grinds were quite enjoyable (bar the terrible tanks). Remember it's a game, find the tanks you enjoy & have fun with them; Not to mention that getting rgeat crews is a long journey in itself, so you will never be done.

 



Isharial #6 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:26 PM

    Captain

  • Player
  • 19711 battles
  • 2,346
  • [T-D-U] T-D-U
  • Member since:
    12-19-2015

games take time. or I should re-iterate.. Good games take time.

 

no one wants to play or stick around in a game that's done in 30 minutes (I hate those games, specially when they're expensive to buy in the first place) 

 

games like this and others take dedication to play. you have to put the time into it, like anything else. you play sport, you train, and you keep training, if you don't, you don't get anywhere. that same goes for tanks, if you don't put the time and effort in to getting them, you wont get them. 

 

games not a 30 minute complete and move on type game (which suck) its one you stay with for a far longer period. 

 

that out of the way, the games not just about T10 tanks. T10 isn't endgame. you need crews and knowledge to get the fun out of T10, so the theoretical grind is actually far longer than what you say

no need to grind every single one, nor is there any real need to rush to T10 gameplay as the other tiers can give you what you want in far less time if you so desire



Fibonachi #7 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:26 PM

    Warrant Officer

  • Beta Tester
  • 25032 battles
  • 805
  • [FREEP] FREEP
  • Member since:
    01-07-2011
The grind is there mainly to promote free xp conversion, bonus xp reserves and premium account. E.g. how WG primarily makes its money.

Search_Warrant #8 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:26 PM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 27190 battles
  • 6,141
  • [LEWD] LEWD
  • Member since:
    02-08-2011
You get reserves thrown at you nowadays. its easier to grind now than it was before. but it feels allot longer coz of the terrible tank/MM changes.

Slyspy #9 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:29 PM

    Field Marshal

  • Player
  • 14202 battles
  • 16,689
  • [T-D-U] T-D-U
  • Member since:
    12-07-2011
Play for the fun of playing and so minimise the sense of grinding, if not the fact of it. Alsoo play more carefully, stay alive and active longer, die less and you'll earn more xp and credits per game. 

Suurpolskija #10 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:29 PM

    Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 18692 battles
  • 1,642
  • [URHO] URHO
  • Member since:
    01-26-2016

I got a couple of friends in the game that don't have any tier x vehicles and they seem to enjoy this game well enough.

 

What I often hear them saying is: "Hey, let's do a luchs platoon lol" and then they do just that, have laughs and enjoy the game.

 

Their way of playing seems to net them also a lot more free exp than my own. :D I'm always in the middle of all kinds of grinds.



Isharial #11 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:32 PM

    Captain

  • Player
  • 19711 battles
  • 2,346
  • [T-D-U] T-D-U
  • Member since:
    12-19-2015

View PostSuurpolskija, on 18 June 2018 - 01:29 PM, said:

I got a couple of friends in the game that don't have any tier x vehicles and they seem to enjoy this game well enough.

 

What I often hear them saying is: "Hey, let's do a luchs platoon lol" and then they do just that, have laughs and enjoy the game.

 

Their way of playing seems to net them also a lot more free exp than my own. :D I'm always in the middle of all kinds of grinds.

 

^^^

 

OP has 2 T10 tanks, if not more in 3k games

 

ive researched and bought... 1 TX tank... :P

 

I like T5-7 myself.. higher seems to be where the harder to carry games are, and are less fun as a consequence. 



vasilinhorulezz #12 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:38 PM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 22813 battles
  • 1,109
  • Member since:
    09-26-2014

No, although it should be less xp for modules, more xp for the next tank, so the gring won't be so painful,

and finally remove some of the useless modules no one will ever use, like the 90mm M36 gun on the M46, seriously why the *edited* is this gun in the grind?


Edited by NickMustaine, 19 June 2018 - 01:13 PM.
Inappropriate remarks


kaneloon #13 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:40 PM

    Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 28098 battles
  • 1,612
  • [OBLIC] OBLIC
  • Member since:
    11-18-2011

Well yes I researched and bought TX like the t100lt I never play because TX is a bit too demanding if you have some "sense of responsability", whatever that means concerning total strangers in a ftp game.



Balc0ra #14 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:41 PM

    Field Marshal

  • Player
  • 66256 battles
  • 16,244
  • [WALL] WALL
  • Member since:
    07-10-2012

If it was easier and faster. Tier rushing would also be easier. And that's not good either. It's fine as is. No one wants a a new player to get to tier X in 400 games non premium, and don't even know how to fight anything he faces as he raced past the other tiers. 

 

No one says you have to have every tank do they? I can tell you one thing after 60K games. Half the lines I've grinded were a waste of time, had no keepers or only 1 or 2 keepers. I've not even bought half the tier X's I've unlocked as the tier 9's tier for tier are way better anyway. So no... no need to rush. Trust me. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 18 June 2018 - 01:42 PM.


tank276 #15 Posted 18 June 2018 - 01:47 PM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 50083 battles
  • 561
  • [KEKE] KEKE
  • Member since:
    08-30-2012

View PostBatChatMan, on 18 June 2018 - 12:16 PM, said:

I've already played around 3500 battles, which is, if we count with 7 minute battles (that's near the average according to VBAddict),around 400 hours or 17 days of gameplay. Still, I only have the 13 105 and i'm close to getting the M48 Patton. That is cca. 2000 matches for two tier 10 vehicles, considering I also researched the BC 25AP. 

 

Now lets calculate a little: that means researching one vehicle requires around 1000 battles.There are 47 tier 10 vehicles in game. Researching all needs cca. 1000*47=47000 battles played. That's 230 days of non-stop gaming! And WG adds new tech trees to the game, so this number increases from time to time. Aside that this game is fun, but it's really tedious to grind hundreds of battles just for one tier 10 vehicle. And discouraging to see there are still lost of t10 tanks you'd like to get, but you don't have the time to actually get them.

 

 

 

It is not intended for everyone to grind every line.

And this is coming from someone who has researched around 360 of the 400 vehicles in game.

Just learn from forums and tubers the line you think you will enjoy and stick to 2 or 3 grinds.

After finishing those (and you still enjoy the game), start another 2 lines etc...


Edited by tank276, 18 June 2018 - 01:48 PM.


lampround #16 Posted 18 June 2018 - 02:00 PM

    Staff Sergeant

  • Player
  • 13115 battles
  • 373
  • Member since:
    09-02-2011
I got the tier 9 Italian Standard B about a week after release with liberal use of free XP saved up for this very task. Stopped Brit heavy grind a long time ago, but tott took a week to go from BP to Conq. Grind seems okay to me?

_Sensation_ #17 Posted 18 June 2018 - 02:05 PM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 7182 battles
  • 582
  • [ORIGN] ORIGN
  • Member since:
    01-10-2017

Lmao are you st*pid?

 

The grind is the whole money model of the game, as with quite a lot of games nowadays. Thats where they earn a big amount of their cashm

 

*edited*


Edited by NickMustaine, 19 June 2018 - 01:15 PM.
Provocations


unhappy_bunny #18 Posted 18 June 2018 - 02:07 PM

    Major

  • Player
  • 18099 battles
  • 2,673
  • [-OC-] -OC-
  • Member since:
    08-01-2012

View PostBatChatMan, on 18 June 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

I've already played around 3500 battles, which is, if we count with 7 minute battles (that's near the average according to VBAddict),around 400 hours or 17 days of gameplay. Still, I only have the 13 105 and i'm close to getting the M48 Patton. That is cca. 2000 matches for two tier 10 vehicles, considering I also researched the BC 25AP. 

 

Now lets calculate a little: that means researching one vehicle requires around 1000 battles.There are 47 tier 10 vehicles in game. Researching all needs cca. 1000*47=47000 battles played. That's 230 days of non-stop gaming! And WG adds new tech trees to the game, so this number increases from time to time. Aside that this game is fun, but it's really tedious to grind hundreds of battles just for one tier 10 vehicle. And discouraging to see there are still lost of t10 tanks you'd like to get, but you don't have the time to actually get them.

 

 

 

Wow. At your current rate of play, I estimate it will take you 47 years to get all thise TX tanks. Do you think you will still be playing WoT in 47 years time? Even if WoT is still arounf in 47 years. 

 

And have actually considered why you feel it is so important to get to TX? You must have a reason otherwise you wouldnt be complaining about the grind. 

 

You think it is unfair, having to grind so much? Well, consider all the other players on here who have been through the grind. Would it be fair to them if suddenly WG decided to ease the grind because you either dont have the time, or dont want to invest the time, into that grind? 

 

You can imagine the announcement and the players recations.

Dear Commander,

Due to the problem BatChatMan has with the grind, we have decided to do away with it and open up TX to any player that wants one. 

As compensation for all the hard work you have put into the game over the years we are gifting a free garage slot and pack of large repair kits. 

Happy Tanking

WG.

 

Average forum response:

 

Thanks WG. We are all very happy now.



pecopad #19 Posted 18 June 2018 - 02:10 PM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 23487 battles
  • 943
  • [UGN] UGN
  • Member since:
    09-04-2015

Not only we have to grind for hundreds of games for experience,we also have to grind hundreds more for credits, just so you can buy the tanks and play tier 9 battles.


Grinding on tier 8 for credits its no fun.

 

So yes, I'm with you. Grinds needs to be shorter, so the game is more enjoyable, specially with bad tanks like the St.Emil and other pearls that exist on the Game just to force you to free XP.


Edited by pecopad, 18 June 2018 - 02:11 PM.


_Sensation_ #20 Posted 18 June 2018 - 02:20 PM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 7182 battles
  • 582
  • [ORIGN] ORIGN
  • Member since:
    01-10-2017

View Postpecopad, on 18 June 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

Not only we have to grind for hundreds of games for experience,we also have to grind hundreds more for credits, just so you can buy the tanks and play tier 9 battles.


Grinding on tier 8 for credits its no fun.

 

So yes, I'm with you. Grinds needs to be shorter, so the game is more enjoyable, specially with bad tanks like the St.Emil and other pearls that exist on the Game just to force you to free XP.

 

It's not the grinds that map the game unenjoyable




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users