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SmplFatGuy #1 Posted 18 June 2018 - 05:07 PM

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So what the guy on the right side of the picture promise . Tier by tier balance in the game .. and what we see one year after that , any one , any one , any one ???

 

P.S. Liar detected !!! 

 

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View PostMacanudoGL, on 18 June 2018 - 04:07 PM, said:

So what the guy on the right side of the picture promise . Tier by tier balance in the game .. and what we see one year after that , any one , any one , any one ???

 

P.S. Liar detected !!! 

 

 

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Balc0ra #3 Posted 18 June 2018 - 06:12 PM

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I'm amazed you thought it would take less then a year to balance over 500 tanks, even tier by tier. 

 

They had bigger issues back then, inc patch 1.0 etc. Tho last month they did mention tier 4 was the place to start with it regarding that. And that will be happening soon. As they feel that is the one worst of tier for tier. 

 

That and you should know that when WG says they plan something.. There is no eta. It's only "soon". 



evilchaosmonkey #4 Posted 18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 18 June 2018 - 05:12 PM, said:

I'm amazed you thought it would take less then a year to balance over 500 tanks, even tier by tier. 

 

They had bigger issues back then, inc patch 1.0 etc. Tho last month they did mention tier 4 was the place to start with it regarding that. And that will be happening soon. As they feel that is the one worst of tier for tier. 

 

That and you should know that when WG says they plan something.. There is no eta. It's only "soon". 

 

Oh fantastic. 

 

I escaped to those tiers to avoid the mess they made of the higher tiers.

Now I learn they're going to ruin all the tiers in what is bound to be an almighty cluster feck of failed re-balancing.

 

 

 



SmplFatGuy #5 Posted 18 June 2018 - 06:33 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 18 June 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

I'm amazed you thought it would take less then a year to balance over 500 tanks, even tier by tier. 

 

They had bigger issues back then, inc patch 1.0 etc. Tho last month they did mention tier 4 was the place to start with it regarding that. And that will be happening soon. As they feel that is the one worst of tier for tier. 

 

That and you should know that when WG says they plan something.. There is no eta. It's only "soon". 

lol they don't even balance one tank yet , but people see your logic .. You must be killing it at your 12 y old friends :D



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View PostBalc0ra, on 18 June 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

I'm amazed you thought it would take less then a year to balance over 500 tanks, even tier by tier. 

 

They had bigger issues back then, inc patch 1.0 etc. Tho last month they did mention tier 4 was the place to start with it regarding that. And that will be happening soon. As they feel that is the one worst of tier for tier. 

 

That and you should know that when WG says they plan something.. There is no eta. It's only "soon". 

Eh?

I think WG have more issues now then they had back then. 



Danger__UXB #7 Posted 18 June 2018 - 07:07 PM

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Promises from WG go right hand in hand with...

 

  • The cheque is in the post

 

  • We will balance all tiers starting from tier 10 and work down the tiers(Then V4 and and OHO happened)

 

  • ''We will never sell the mutant again...EVER!!

 

  • We will give light tanks back the role they were supposed to do in the first place

 

  • Arty stops camping

 

  • Tier 8 PMM is affecting higher tier balance

 

  • ETC..........

 

 

WG is not driven by game balance just.... £$£$£$£$...and the lack of it helps them get it (KEEEEERCHING!!)

 

 

WG promises are..

 

 


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evilchaosmonkey #8 Posted 18 June 2018 - 08:04 PM

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Fits for both WG promises and the numbers of player quit posts at the moment.

 



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View PostMacanudoGL, on 18 June 2018 - 04:07 PM, said:

So what the guy on the right side of the picture promise . Tier by tier balance in the game .. and what we see one year after that , any one , any one , any one ???

 

P.S. Liar detected !!! 

 

 

And what will (or can) you do about it ?

Mike_Mckay #10 Posted 18 June 2018 - 09:47 PM

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View PostMacanudoGL, on 18 June 2018 - 04:07 PM, said:

So what the guy on the right side of the picture promise . Tier by tier balance in the game .. and what we see one year after that , any one , any one , any one ???

 

P.S. Liar detected !!!

 

 

Yeah but "balance" is open to interpretation


He might have meant "we will balance the tiers by having a pile of new severely OP tanks on one side, then nerf some of the older tanks like we are planning to do with the PMM tanks so theres very weak tanks on the other side and hey presto its "balanced""


 

Element6 #11 Posted 18 June 2018 - 09:57 PM

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View PostMacanudoGL, on 18 June 2018 - 06:33 PM, said:

lol they don't even balance one tank yet , but people see your logic .. You must be killing it at your 12 y old friends :D

There are several tanks that are quite balanced according to the WR curves.



Mike_Mckay #12 Posted 18 June 2018 - 10:02 PM

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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 18 June 2018 - 08:57 PM, said:

There are several tanks that are quite balanced according to the WR curves.

 

Some of the French light tanks need balancing, the slightest pebble and they fall over

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It was a "Russian" promise.........go figure lol

Element6 #14 Posted 19 June 2018 - 09:01 AM

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View PostMike_Mckay, on 18 June 2018 - 10:02 PM, said:

Some of the French light tanks need balancing, the slightest pebble and they fall over

The french always insisted on being a little different from the rest of us.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 18 June 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

I'm amazed you thought it would take less then a year to balance over 500 tanks, even tier by tier. 

 

They had bigger issues back then, inc patch 1.0 etc. Tho last month they did mention tier 4 was the place to start with it regarding that. And that will be happening soon. As they feel that is the one worst of tier for tier. 

 

That and you should know that when WG says they plan something.. There is no eta. It's only "soon". 

 

A competent company with the will to properly balance the tiers could have done it in less than a year. But that would require competence and or no other hidden motives such as powercreep, introducing OP tanks for short term gains and such.

Also Balancing of certain tiers should have been done much more frequently. Rebalancing should not be tied to the big patches but could have been done every second week via a balancing micro patch.

It is entirely possible to semi decently balance the game twice the size of WoT in a year if the will would have been there.



Jigabachi #16 Posted 19 June 2018 - 09:40 AM

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View PostHundeWurst, on 19 June 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

A competent company with the will to properly balance the tiers could have done it in less than a year. 

If "balancing" merely means changing some tank stats... then yes, that would work. But balancing is more than just fiddling with numbers. You also have to make sure that your numbers work well within the game with all the content and mechanics.

E.g., balancing requires a complete change in mapdesign, so that heavy tanks lose their massive advantage and light tanks get more room to play.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #17 Posted 19 June 2018 - 10:30 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 19 June 2018 - 10:40 AM, said:

If "balancing" merely means changing some tank stats... then yes, that would work. But balancing is more than just fiddling with numbers. You also have to make sure that your numbers work well within the game with all the content and mechanics.

E.g., balancing requires a complete change in mapdesign, so that heavy tanks lose their massive advantage and light tanks get more room to play.

 

Just to put things into perspective, it takes slightly less than a year to build a 1500 MW natural gas power plant including testing and grid connection. WG employs over 4000 people, sure only some of those are responsible for the game development but yeah, "Igor needs his trips"!

Element6 #18 Posted 19 June 2018 - 11:08 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 19 June 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

Just to put things into perspective, it takes slightly less than a year to build a 1500 MW natural gas power plant including testing and grid connection. WG employs over 4000 people, sure only some of those are responsible for the game development but yeah, "Igor needs his trips"!

The powerplant is built according to very specific specifications, which do not need to take the personal preference of thousands of people into account. The powerplant doesn't need to be tweaked on a general basis to accomodate for shifting trends either, it has it's maximum capacity and that is all that matters.

 

They are not really comparable.



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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 19 June 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

The powerplant is built according to very specific specifications, which do not need to take the personal preference of thousands of people into account. The powerplant doesn't need to be tweaked on a general basis to accomodate for shifting trends either, it has it's maximum capacity and that is all that matters.

 

They are not really comparable.

 

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Jigabachi #20 Posted 19 June 2018 - 02:55 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 19 June 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

Just to put things into perspective, it takes slightly less than a year to build a 1500 MW natural gas power plant including testing and grid connection. WG employs over 4000 people, sure only some of those are responsible for the game development but yeah, "Igor needs his trips"!

And how does that 1500MW natural gas power plant help with the balance in this game?

And what happens if you reduce that build time to half a year?






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