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OIias_of_Sunhillow #1 Posted 21 June 2018 - 12:11 PM

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Why, when playing arty, can I not blow holes in the sea ice ?

 

How thick is that ice..?



RaptorAbt #2 Posted 21 June 2018 - 12:12 PM

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Enough to bear the weight of some Tier 10 Supa Heavies! 

rustysprite #3 Posted 21 June 2018 - 12:14 PM

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Here's a clue

 

We need someone good at maths

 



StinkyStonky #4 Posted 21 June 2018 - 12:49 PM

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What I want to know why it's called "Glacier" ?

 

Is it because some of the frozen bits look like foxy mints ?



Balc0ra #5 Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:12 PM

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Having seen a small explosives not do much but break the top of the ice that a Bradley just drove on "During my service, one of my stations was the base the US tank divisions do winter training on. The same base the English left, as it was too cold for training :P" I suspect you need a fair bit to break it. As to support 100 tons, you need close to 1m of ice according to most charts. Or 36 inches/3 feet. 

 

So I'm not sure how much HE shells would do. Or even how much ice would be needed to stop a 240mm shell. And as I was curious, I did a search on researchgate. And turns out that it's something that has been tested... lots in the 50's. According to one chart, you needed 40 pounds of C4 "18kg" to get past 8 feet of ice, and 10 pounds was enough if the ice was 4 feet thick "91 cm" and not colder then -20 C. 10 pounds on 8 feet did not even make a crater 1 feet deep.  

 

So if you think that the 240mm shell of the T92 weights 360 pounds "163kg" heading towards ice that thick enough to hold a 100t tank. It should blow a hole in it based on those numbers. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 21 June 2018 - 01:15 PM.


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Might be interesting if tanks above a certain tonnage couldn't cross certain parts of the ice sheet. I think we'd all like to see a Type 5 slowly sliding down into the depths.

LCpl_Jones #7 Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:31 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 21 June 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

 The same base the English left, as it was too cold for training :P

 

yeah we don't do iced tea :teethhappy:

Browarszky #8 Posted 21 June 2018 - 03:02 PM

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I have seen one of the spots arty hit near me at close inspection, near the north tip of the mid island. To my surprise, beneath the ice there was no water, but dirt... the whole map is a fake! :angry:

 

... On the other hand, I think yesterday one of my team mates managed to get themselves drowned. How, where, when there is no open water as far as I can see? :amazed:



Negativvv #9 Posted 21 June 2018 - 03:10 PM

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Considering there are half buried capital ships buried in the ice too. It must be crazy thick.

 

The whole map feels pretty impossible in terms of its geography.



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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 21 June 2018 - 11:11 AM, said:

Why, when playing arty, can I not blow holes in the sea ice ?

 

How thick is that ice..?

 

Not as thick as some of the people driving on it :B

xx984 #11 Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:32 PM

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View Postrustysprite, on 21 June 2018 - 11:14 AM, said:

Here's a clue

 

We need someone good at maths

 

 

well quick google search says a medium pickup weighs around 7 tones,

 

Maus, heaviest tank in the game is 188 tones, so 188/7 = 27. 27 x 12 = 324

 

So 

Pickup = 7 tones and 12 Inches of ice

Maus = 188 tones and 324 Inches of ice, so roughly about 8 meters. if i've done it correctly

 

 


Edited by xx984, 21 June 2018 - 05:34 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #12 Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:41 PM

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View PostBrowarszky, on 21 June 2018 - 04:02 PM, said:

... On the other hand, I think yesterday one of my team mates managed to get themselves drowned. How, where, when there is no open water as far as I can see? :amazed:

 

There are a couple of spots where you can drown very easily in Glacier. :)

 



Browarszky #13 Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:45 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 21 June 2018 - 07:41 PM, said:

 

There are a couple of spots where you can drown very easily in Glacier. :)

 

 

Ah.. never spotted those.. thanks. Little inconveniently placed for those who are of a more exotic persuasion.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #14 Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:49 PM

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View PostBrowarszky, on 21 June 2018 - 09:45 PM, said:

 

Ah.. never spotted those.. thanks. Little inconveniently placed for those who are of a more exotic persuasion.

 

The most common is the one in the north. As heavies, from the north spawn, drive to the carrier area focusing on the middle they sometimes drop in that hole and the edge is too steep to get back up. :)

Browarszky #15 Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:50 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 21 June 2018 - 07:49 PM, said:

 

The most common is the one in the north. As heavies, from the north spawn, drive to the carrier area focusing on the middle they sometimes drop in that hole and the edge is too steep to get back up. :)

 

I found a spot like that on Mountain Pass... :hiding:

XxKuzkina_MatxX #16 Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:55 PM

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View PostBrowarszky, on 21 June 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

 

I found a spot like that on Mountain Pass... :hiding:

 

E0?

Browarszky #17 Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:57 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 21 June 2018 - 07:55 PM, said:

 

E0?

 

E0, F0.. thereabouts.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #18 Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:01 PM

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View PostBrowarszky, on 21 June 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

 

E0, F0.. thereabouts.

 

Yep, the rat's corner. :)

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 21 June 2018 - 08:41 PM, said:

There are a couple of spots where you can drown very easily in Glacier. :)

 

Interesting. I wonder whether there's a possible overlap with possible future "minefield" code...

Element6 #20 Posted 21 June 2018 - 11:40 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 21 June 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

The most common is the one in the north. As heavies, from the north spawn, drive to the carrier area focusing on the middle they sometimes drop in that hole and the edge is too steep to get back up. :)

Been there, done that.






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