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Give T110E5 better cupola or no cupola at all

  1. Remove the cupola! (22 votes [27.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.85%

  2. Keep the cupola and make it strong. (29 votes [36.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.71%

  3. Keep the T110E5 as it is. (15 votes [18.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.99%

  4. Make the T110E5 weaker. (13 votes [16.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.46%

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GameOfTanks123 #1 Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:41 PM

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I really wanna understand how the T110E5 even compares to the S. Conqueror in the first place. Myself have played the T110E5 for 150 battles and I have gained a 58% win rate in the tank, so I am a good player and not some other player that just get the tank and is complaining right away, I speak from what games I have had in the tank and how it really doesn't compete anymore. S. Conqueror, when hull down, is impossible to penetrate with no weak spot to shoot it in. T110E5, when hull down, can be penetrated every time when that cupola on top is as big as a tier 1 tank. Some might say you play the tank wrong and you don't know how it really works. Sure, the hull armour is a plus but who cares when the T110E5 has the cupola of a tier 1 tank. When WG nerfed the T110E5 and then brought in the S. Conqueror, I really don't understand why they would nerf the T110E5 in the first place when they replace the FV215b with a British version of the T110E5 with a cupola that is 1/10th the side of the T110E5. Buff the IS-4, buff the 121, buff the Leopard 1, buff the STB-1 but really...can WG just remove the weak spot on the T110E5 or make it strong again?

 

Note: This is what I think and I just want feedback on if you agree or disagree on this topic. Nothing of this is serious, just a thought of what I think right now.


Edited by GameOfTanks123, 21 June 2018 - 02:17 PM.


Dava_117 #2 Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:52 PM

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I would keep E5 as it is and instead limit SConq gun dep to -7° as in RL and make the telemeter primary armour, practically giving it a weackspot. Problem solved.

leggasiini #3 Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:56 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 21 June 2018 - 02:52 PM, said:

I would keep E5 as it is and instead limit SConq gun dep to -7° as in RL and make the telemeter primary armour, practically giving it a weackspot. Problem solved.

 

Even then, the E5 would still be quite bad. To fix the E5 without buffing it, you need to nerf like a crapton of other tier 10s as well; basically reduce the powercreep significantly. Since that's almost certainly not gonna happen, the E5 getting buffed is way more likely and basically the only hope for it to be viable.

 

I agree with Squonk nerfs, tho; -7 would make it much more balanced.



Dava_117 #4 Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:00 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 21 June 2018 - 01:56 PM, said:

 

Even then, the E5 would still be quite bad. To fix the E5 without buffing it, you need to nerf like a crapton of other tier 10s as well; basically reduce the powercreep significantly. Since that's almost certainly not gonna happen, the E5 getting buffed is way more likely and basically the only hope for it to be viable.

 

I agree with Squonk nerfs, tho; -7 would make it much more balanced.

 

Some small buff on E5 may be fine, but I won't touch the armour layout.

Don't now, maybe some adjustment on gun handling or make it more suited for mid range engagement, where the cupola is harder to hit. Something like this.



xx984 #5 Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:57 PM

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Just do what they did with the patton and make the cupola smaller and it would be playable, maybe up its gun dep to -9 as well 

Edited by xx984, 21 June 2018 - 02:57 PM.


FatigueGalaxy #6 Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:20 PM

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View Postxx984, on 21 June 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

Just do what they did with the patton and make the cupola smaller and it would be playable, maybe up its gun dep to -9 as well 

 

Mobility buff is an option too. It has "heavium" armour but it's slower than all other heaviums.

WindSplitter1 #7 Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:03 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 21 June 2018 - 12:52 PM, said:

I would keep E5 as it is and instead limit SConq gun dep to -7° as in RL and make the telemeter primary armour, practically giving it a weackspot. Problem solved.

 

Pardon my ignorance.

 

Could you (or someone else) explain what a "Telemeter" is to me if you can spare the time?



Simeon85 #8 Posted 22 June 2018 - 09:11 AM

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Yeh Super Conq should have -7 gun depression to curb some power creep (and 5A should have -5 to the front and -7 to the sides like the 113).

 

Fatton treatment of smaller cupola would work, with maybe the central bit dropping to about 200 effective. Then it could hull down better.

 

Up the gun depression to -9 like the Fatton and top speed to 40kph and reverse speed to 15kph, which would bring it closer to other heaviums. It would be the gun depression heavium. 

 

Sadly the Super Conqueror is not the E5's only problem, the 430U is just basically a better E5 in every way aside gun depression. 5A is a better E5 as well. 



Dava_117 #9 Posted 22 June 2018 - 09:56 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 21 June 2018 - 09:03 PM, said:

 

Pardon my ignorance.

 

Could you (or someone else) explain what a "Telemeter" is to me if you can spare the time?

 

A telemeter is an instrument that detect distances. The most commonly used is the laser telemeter, that measure the time taken by a laser ray to hit the surface and came back. In the superconqueror, the commander cupola got one of them (don't know wich tecnology use tbh) that is modelled as spaced armour (the orizzontal cilindric thing).

Derethim #10 Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:13 AM

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E5 needs a buff and Squnk needs a tiny nerf. As in an actual weakspot above the LFP.

leggasiini #11 Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:41 PM

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View PostSimeon85, on 22 June 2018 - 10:11 AM, said:

Sadly the Super Conqueror is not the E5's only problem, the 430U is just basically a better E5 in every way aside gun depression. 5A is a better E5 as well. 

 

Isn't the M48 also just a better E5?



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View Postleggasiini, on 22 June 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

 

Isn't the M48 also just a better E5?

 

At the moment probably yeh, if the E5 got buffed, then no as the hull armour and turret armour is way better. They would get closer together though, but then 121 and 113 or 277 and 430U are very similar anyway. 

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View PostDava_117, on 22 June 2018 - 08:56 AM, said:

 

A telemeter is an instrument that detect distances. The most commonly used is the laser telemeter, that measure the time taken by a laser ray to hit the surface and came back. In the superconqueror, the commander cupola got one of them (don't know wich tecnology use tbh) that is modelled as spaced armour (the orizzontal cilindric thing).

 

Oh!

I know those by the name of Parallax Rangefinder.

 

Thank you for explaining. :)



Private_Pearts #14 Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:51 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 21 June 2018 - 02:00 PM, said:

 

Some small buff on E5 may be fine, but I won't touch the armour layout.

Don't now, maybe some adjustment on gun handling or make it more suited for mid range engagement, where the cupola is harder to hit. Something like this.

 

I would only agree with any of this if they nerfed all the tier 10s including the Soviet ones (especially the Soviet ones) and they are more likely to buff Soviet tanks if they need it or not.

Dava_117 #15 Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:16 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 22 June 2018 - 10:51 PM, said:

 

I would only agree with any of this if they nerfed all the tier 10s including the Soviet ones (especially the Soviet ones) and they are more likely to buff Soviet tanks if they need it or not.

 

Some of tjem would really need some nerf, sure. I would quite like if all those OP tanks (nation is not important tbh) got rebalanced. :)

vasilinhorulezz #16 Posted 23 June 2018 - 12:17 AM

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They only tanks that need buff at tier 10 are lights,

which clearly suck at everything, because mediums are at least as effective in the scout role.



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E5 and Grille should be buffed for the previous version. They won't be OP at all, but maybe some people would play with them again...

Gootti_Kustaa #18 Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:25 AM

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One issue with the light tanks is that some mediums have better camo while stayng still. Thus with equal view ranges it is tough to spot and the lights can get ambushed. 

 



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Any weak-spot for which same tier tanks need premium ammo to viably penetrate, is badly balanced. This is why the cupola was changed.

No, on paper you didn't need premium ammo but the reality in battle was you did since the cupola bounces most of the standard ammo fired at it.

 

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PervyPastryPuffer #20 Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:45 AM

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#MakeE5GreatAgain

 

Bring it back to it's former glory from 2015 (2016?) and make it the most OP tier 10 heavy! :izmena: ...or at least make it as competitive as the others.


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