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_SyN_ #1 Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:54 PM

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It's been just a few hours and I see people have reached max points already(225). Which means you have to earn 15(max per game) points a game either through a goal or assist for 15 games(goal/assist net 5points each). There is no way that is possible so quickly no matter how good you are. Also the nail in the coffin is the game length which I have a whole folder of screenshots on(60 second games lol). What they will try to do now is win slow to make their 15points games less suspicious. Here is a sample because I cant be bothered to crop out names and post all of them now. Just  go in the scoreboard and see it for yourself. LINK

 

EDIT: Forgot to mention what I think is happening. Though I do not have replays I am 99% sure based on the facts. A group of players are platooning up and clicking in together and allowing a player to get all the points.

 

So yeah what is even the point of this mode?


Edited by _SyN_, 21 June 2018 - 06:16 PM.


OIias_of_Sunhillow #2 Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:55 PM

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Football rigged ?

 

Blame Blatter.



Jethro_Grey #3 Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:59 PM

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Do these funky little tokens in the shop give you points as well? 

If so, this could explain how people got the so quickly (not playing WoT for three weeks now).



_SyN_ #4 Posted 21 June 2018 - 06:08 PM

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That's a separate reward and quite bad if I may add. Though it's free, everyone will get it assuming they play enough to earn 3 packs a day. Waste of real money though. The leader board rewards change weakly and are based upon your best 15 games then other factors based on certain conditions.

Edited by _SyN_, 21 June 2018 - 06:12 PM.


MaxxyNL #5 Posted 21 June 2018 - 06:15 PM

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1st week it took a couple of days for people to reach 225, but week 2...... it took some players/teams a few hours to reach 225..... in 20-30 battles :ohmy:

 

 

 


Edited by MaxxyNL, 21 June 2018 - 06:18 PM.


Wintermute_1 #6 Posted 21 June 2018 - 06:16 PM

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Aren't the prizes directives, camos etc? If your'e bothering to game the system for that you have too much time on your hands.

_SyN_ #7 Posted 21 June 2018 - 06:21 PM

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View PostMaxxyNL, on 21 June 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

1st week it took a couple of days for people to reach 225, but week 2...... it took some players/teams a few hours to reach 225..... :ohmy:

Exactly what raised my suspicion when I looked at leader board when it refreshed. Then I did some basic deduction.

 

View PostWintermute_1, on 21 June 2018 - 05:16 PM, said:

Aren't the prizes directives, camos etc? If your'e bothering to game the system for that you have too much time on your hands.

Yes, the prizes are nothing special. But the way I enjoy this game is by setting goals say getting to max points or farming a mark or something. But when people cheat their way to the top makes you feel like your time is wasted and that is what annoys me the most.



MaxxyNL #8 Posted 21 June 2018 - 06:37 PM

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I find it strange that it took people days in order to reach 225 in the 1st week with lots of battles.

Now, the 1st player on 225 for the E100, only needed 20 battles...... YEAH RIGHT..... i call *edited*

 

A player from the same Clan as the player that is on 225 for the E100, needed 27 battles to reach 225 with the T62A..... i call more *edited*

 

WG, why is it still possible for cheaters to do what they want to do? :facepalm:


Edited by NickMustaine, 23 June 2018 - 10:00 AM.
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_SyN_ #9 Posted 21 June 2018 - 06:44 PM

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Those players who I shall not name are very bad at the game yet somehow gods in this mode. No comment.

MaxxyNL #10 Posted 21 June 2018 - 07:01 PM

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View Post_SyN_, on 21 June 2018 - 07:44 PM, said:

Those players who I shall not name are very bad at the game yet somehow gods in this mode. No comment.

 

I know what you mean. :hiding:

PointZero #11 Posted 21 June 2018 - 07:02 PM

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Wargaming in their infinite wisdom decided to make the "scoreboard" equal for players playing solo and in platoons. Now if you are playing in platoons with your clanmates it shouldn't be too hard to agree that you will let player A score all the goals while player B gets all the assists as you chat away in teamspeak/discord like people playing in platoons tend to do. Players over coms tend to be more organized and can time their shots & reloads better so it's safe to assume they will "easily" win against just random people platooning for fun.

 

If they play well enough together they will also win the matches faster and each played game will score 2 players 15 points as long the goalie holds his fire when the ball gets close to the goal. It might be even easier if you platoon with just 2 players so have a chance of meeting a random E100S who misses 90% of the shots and sits inside the goal so that in the off chance of him actually being in the way of the ball it's already in the goal.

 

Edit: yeah I didn't look at the match durations, obviously that is next to impossible if the other team is trying.

 

View PostWintermute_1, on 21 June 2018 - 08:16 PM, said:

Aren't the prizes directives, camos etc? If your'e bothering to game the system for that you have too much time on your hands.

 

They upped the rewards for the following stages. Stage II offers premium days, Stage III bonds and Stage IV offers premium days & bonds. If I recall correctly 14 days + 1500 bonds if you land in the top 400.

 


Edited by PointZero, 21 June 2018 - 07:06 PM.


MaxxyNL #12 Posted 21 June 2018 - 07:06 PM

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View PostPointZero, on 21 June 2018 - 08:02 PM, said:

If they play well enough together they will also win the matches faster and each played game will score 2 players 15 points as long the goalie holds his fire when the ball gets close to the goal.

 

True, but still, this fast seems almost impossible without dirty tricks...

 

Prepare for cheaters galore in week 3 & 4 because of the bonds rewards.... :facepalm:

 

 

Btw. a teammate/clanmember of both the top players for E100/T62A has lost his score on the Striker Score list, he is now on the bottom of the list with a 0 score + 0% victories. Coincidence? :ohmy:

Also, 2 players of the same Clan, lost their score on the E100 Ranking, both are on the bottom with 0/0%...

 


Edited by MaxxyNL, 21 June 2018 - 07:28 PM.


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People have been rigging matches in all kinds of gamemodes for as long as I can remember...I don't understand why they bother to do it, if they get caught, they're done-for forever.

 

If you see obvious rigging, save the replay, send it to WG in a support ticket. Justice is served. (yes they DO do their job)

 

It's good to have the "Enable last battle replay recording" option enabled, as it doesn't save each replay, but only keeps the last one, which you can copy to a different folder and rename it, basically saving it manually.



Balc0ra #14 Posted 21 June 2018 - 07:51 PM

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View Post_SyN_, on 21 June 2018 - 06:21 PM, said:

Exactly what raised my suspicion when I looked at leader board when it refreshed. Then I did some basic deduction.

 

 

Riggin is nothing new from past events. But rigging the old fashioned way by playing vs your own clan mates is still not that easy to pull off I suspect with this mode. Thus why points don't count after midnight. As that would be to easy. 

 

Then again some platoons working well together can set that up for one of their 3 players rather easy for him to get points. They all hold their fire when the ball is close to the goal and give it to him. As I even seen that. First week ppl had to test the water to get a feel for the mode. Now they know what works and work faster. And I doubt the #1 spot on the last leaderboard got 93% WR by constantly getting faced with his fellow riggers that let him win. A match here and there sure, maybe. But all 15 of them? I doubt it. 

 

As some of my wins and losses were done in less then 90 seconds with one getting 3 goals. And it's not like we let him do it, even when we were on his team. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 21 June 2018 - 07:53 PM.


_SyN_ #15 Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:25 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 21 June 2018 - 06:51 PM, said:

 

Riggin is nothing new from past events. But rigging the old fashioned way by playing vs your own clan mates is still not that easy to pull off I suspect with this mode. Thus why points don't count after midnight. As that would be to easy. 

 

Then again some platoons working well together can set that up for one of their 3 players rather easy for him to get points. They all hold their fire when the ball is close to the goal and give it to him. As I even seen that. First week ppl had to test the water to get a feel for the mode. Now they know what works and work faster. And I doubt the #1 spot on the last leaderboard got 93% WR by constantly getting faced with his fellow riggers that let him win. A match here and there sure, maybe. But all 15 of them? I doubt it. 

 

As some of my wins and losses were done in less then 90 seconds with one getting 3 goals. And it's not like we let him do it, even when we were on his team. 

Sorry impossible to do that trick consistently every game. Max points/rank in 20 games never achievable in a legit way no matter what. Statistically impossible. Sure you get games like that where the enemy is bad and you can pull it off even then doing it three times in one game gets a bit difficult as they catch on to it. But facing stupid enough enemies that dont know to shoot middle at start of every round 20 games in a row impossible no questions just facts.


Edited by _SyN_, 21 June 2018 - 08:26 PM.


PointZero #16 Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:10 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 21 June 2018 - 09:51 PM, said:

As some of my wins and losses were done in less then 90 seconds with one getting 3 goals. And it's not like we let him do it, even when we were on his team. 

 

How about 14/15 in 97 seconds or less with the fastest being 61s?  With 109s shorter average game time than the guy leading the 3rd leaderboard who's average winrate is 14% higher and has a 71, 63% hit ratio instead of 52,25%.



jeffrey_mk2 #17 Posted 22 June 2018 - 08:30 AM

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Ive played 3 days in a row football mode and did not score a single time.
While the first week I played my first 10 games I scored actually every game.
Yesterday I even shot multiple times the ball inside the goal but it touched the enemy defender e100 so I get no goal point.
Also playing 8 games in a row when losing in 2 minutes is not so nice.
Also dont understand why one of the meds has its first shell faster loaded then the other team.
Ive played the med and sometimes the enemy has first shot while I havent even loaded my shell.
That sometimes let the other team get easy goals...

OllieCromwell #18 Posted 22 June 2018 - 09:34 AM

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Hmmm... I have to agree that I would be VERY interested to see a few of forementioned E100's games as to see how to accomplish those 15 point rounds .... As an E100 player I find it progressively hard to score 15 points in a round ... and it is getting harder and hard now people start to learn what to do and when to do it, playing all night in a 3 man platoon last night, I managed to score 90 points (winrate of 75%) ... So either that E100 with 225 points is a genius in playing his tank (and I could learn a lot from him) or something is 'fishy' ...

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View PostMaxxyNL, on 21 June 2018 - 07:06 PM, said:

Btw. a teammate/clanmember of both the top players for E100/T62A has lost his score on the Striker Score list, he is now on the bottom of the list with a 0 score + 0% victories. Coincidence? :ohmy:

Also, 2 players of the same Clan, lost their score on the E100 Ranking, both are on the bottom with 0/0%...

 

 

Shows that reporting those riggers works I suppose. So if you stumble on them, don't forget to write up a ticket, make it polite & detailed & explain. Then let customer support handle it.

 

Edit: Brace yourself for the many: OMG Football mode is bugged!/WG stole my points!* threads that will pop up, exclaiming their innocence & that they didn't know rigging a competitionj is a bad thing.


Edited by UrQuan, 22 June 2018 - 09:41 AM.


_SyN_ #20 Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:23 AM

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Well I sent a ticket but don't have replays to prove it without a doubt. We will see if that is enough. I'll update once I do hear back from them. Hopefully they have a way to monitor the battle history and see who they are playing against in these 15 point games and  whether they are the same individuals and a bit of common sense to realise you can't win games in 60-70 seconds.

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