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Mike_Mckay #1 Posted 22 June 2018 - 04:40 AM

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I've been struggling on this mission for a while now and its the last one to unlock mission 15, I'm not a good enough player to do 8k damage in a game and that's gonna be a looooooong way off if I will ever get that for a game. So I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good vehicle to try and do this in, I guess rather than a heavily armoured tank something with a low health pool but good penetration, DPM and cammo value might be the way to go instead to try and bring the damage total down to something I have a better chance of achieving

I am currently working towards the tier 8 waffle which I suspect might be a good choice if the cammo rating is as sick as it is on console and am still almost 300k XP away from the tier 10 Swedish cheese wedge which was another likely candidate so any other suggestions appreciated


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Edited by Mike_Mckay, 22 June 2018 - 04:44 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #2 Posted 22 June 2018 - 05:07 AM

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What do you mean 8k damage? 4 times your HP is doable in many tanks you have.

 

SU-100: big alpha, damage needed is 2320 which are 6 shots.

S1: 4k required, 11 shots which is quite possible since these things are the last to die.

 

Hellcat, Nashorn and the Dicker Max are also viable options. Tier 6 TDs don't have too much hp but some of them have big alpha or good DPM so get a good crew, use some gold ammo, food and hope for a crap team and a crappier enemy team.



RaxipIx #3 Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:11 AM

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I did it in the Su-100.   Next best is probably the Hellcat, it's pretty mobile and you can make the remaining needed damage in the late game.

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PointZero #4 Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:17 AM

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You need to be looking for either the combination of low hitpoints & high alpha or mobility & good gun. First one relies on you dealing the needed dmg with as few hits as possible and the second relies on you actively moving in lookout for more damage.

 

Tier 6:

Passive - work on maps you can snipe, struggles with mobility and deal badly with the amount of HE flying around at tier 6, usually dead in seconds once spotted.

*Dicker max: 300 alpha, 550hp

*SU-100Y: 440 alpha, 700hp

Active - start passive and then switch to hunting for more dmg, stick to 2nd line and move with you MT's if they manage to flank.

SU-100: 390 alpha, 580hp. You can afford to play more aggressive as top tier but make sure you have friends to help around with the issue of not having a turret.

Hellcat: 240 alpha, 570hp. Depends on how good you are in relocating to allow your gun to be constantly firing

 

Tier 7:

*SU-122-44: 390 alpha, 840hp: 3-5-7 can turn the thing into a RRR -monster as a top tier where the main goal is to mop up as much dmg you can before your team can do anything.

Sturer Emil: 490 alpha. 850hp: same issues as D.Max, relies on the enemies coming at you on a steady pace.

SU-152 with 152mm: 910 HE, 700 HEAT, 870hp. HE on soft targets and people you can't pen with HEAT.

 

Tier 8:

thanks to 3-5-7, tier 8 gets the bonus of constantly being bottom tier, this is a good thing as a TD since you have a punchy gun, campy playstyle and there's more hitpoints around.

I would stick to ISU-152, UDES, Skorpion G, Borsig, maybe even Jagdpanther II

 

Edit: I would advice against using vehicles higher than tier 8 since you are getting more hitpoints which makes the damage required to pass the mission really high.

Example: let's assume you are able to do the mission in both SU-100 and your soon to be acquired Strv 103B

SU-100: damage required 2320, achieved with 6 penetrating hits

Strv 103B: damage required 7200, achieved with 19 penetrating hits

(assuming you get average rolls and the targets have enough hp)


Edited by PointZero, 22 June 2018 - 07:44 AM.


ExistanceUK #5 Posted 22 June 2018 - 08:03 AM

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Tier 6 is definitely the way to go, I did mine in the Dicker Max (since at the time I did not have the SU100). You want the best alpha to hp ratio you can get for this mission. 

 

 

 



tank276 #6 Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:02 AM

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As the other guys said, stick to lower tiers, t6 and t7 are probably the sweetspot, the old ISU with the BL-10 was also solid but with the new gun I am not sure.

StinkyStonky #7 Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:45 AM

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The advice to use Tier 6 is all good.

 

One other thing.  Try to platoon with someone helpful (a clan mate) in a light tank.  Get them to spot for you, i.e. go to the same area together and ask them NOT to shoot what they're spotting and let you do it instead.



Suurpolskija #8 Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:06 AM

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I did it with Borsig. 4400dmg is kinda doable, though requires effort. Su-100 is recommended on the forums.

 

 



Derethim #9 Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:11 AM

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So the advice is; Play glass cannons.

 



TungstenHitman #10 Posted 22 June 2018 - 11:14 AM

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Get a shitbarn or OP as fox alpha gun TD that does around 1k damage per shot, shoot 8 tanks, done.

pucku #11 Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:20 PM

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You can look for TDs with low HP here: https://tanks.gg/lis...=td&sh=standard

TungstenHitman #12 Posted 22 June 2018 - 03:49 PM

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Oh my bad I thought you were looking to do 8kdmg. So 4 times your hp mission? easy enough with lower tiers as some of the other mentioned. I don't think 4 times roughly 570hp should take you much time that's only around 2.3k dmg which is a reasonably good battle at tier6 but certainly nothing rare. Here's nearly 4k with a Hellcat recently, I don't do that every game of course but 3k is possible often enough and it's a really nice tank to not be confined to just sitting in a bush at the back waiting for moments, with a HC you have a turret and great mobility so you can make things happen for yourself instead of relying on some nub light tank player.

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4367536#ruinberg-tungstenhitman-m18_hellcat

 

As for 8k dmg mission, like I said, some big alpha TD that can remove the bones of 1k dmg per shot and top tier gameplay where several fat heavies ate busting with lots hp to farm... and don't get cheap with the 2 key if it's AP pen isn't great. For the sake of completing a mission you really want to complete, if you feel it's on the cards, just take the credit hit to gold spam your way over the finish line and just move on and forget about it. Luckily for me the tier9 STRV has great standard pen so I didn't lose credits at all, but that said, this was just a normal battle I wasn't actually trying to complete some mission at the time. GL

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/3632706#sand_river-tungstenhitman-strv_103-0

 

 



Balc0ra #13 Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:01 PM

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The lower you go, the easier it is. D-max going by what you own is the one with the least HP and good enough alpha to pull if off if you get the right kind of enemy yolo team. I did mine in the SU-100 with the 122mm gun. A tiny bit more HP, but still 390 alpha and all that. 

 

D-max is a good bet as it's a pre TD nerf premium. So it still has the old TD view range and camo. Put optics and camo net on it. And with a good crew, you should have over 445m view range when moving even, and over 40 camo when stationary, and over 13 when firing. That's better them most lights even. So play a support role, spot your own targets and use double bushes, farm like crazy. Field on Malinovka is great for that tank if their lights are not that good. 

 

But looking at your TD's. The tanks you have been closest to are two tier 8 TD's. The Swedish S1, and the French CDA 105. You were actually a few damage points off the 105. So keep playing those too, and it will come at one point. As you said you were not that skilled. But these missions do need a bit of luck too. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 22 June 2018 - 06:02 PM.


Pansenmann #14 Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:02 PM

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I did it with Hellcat iirc,

not sure, so long time ago.



Holdes #15 Posted 23 June 2018 - 01:58 PM

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I did it recently in the SU-101, one of the last matches of the grind. Dozen of HEATs + top tier = over 5k of damage. It was a nice game.

I tried some other vehicles too, but since I don't play too much outside of xp / credit grind I didn't succeed. Was close a few times with Skorpion G, but always fell short.

Rhm Borsig may be a good choice too (did 5k at least once) and perhaps UDES, but this one I haven't played yet.

Edited by Holdes, 23 June 2018 - 02:01 PM.


Jumping_TurtIe #16 Posted 23 June 2018 - 02:18 PM

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Hellcat and Dicker Max are the best options.

xtrem3x #17 Posted 23 June 2018 - 07:40 PM

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I did it in the Dicker Max

Did 5x damage for the 260 mission in the Skorpian G

 

I would recommend those 2



Mike_Mckay #18 Posted 23 June 2018 - 11:58 PM

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Cheers for the suggestions, to be honest I had forgotten I had the SU100Y on PC lol, didn't think about the dicker max either


I cant attempt it till after the end of the month and was just trying to pre-empt having a stab at it by getting some suggestions now as I realised early on its unlikely I would do it in a tier 10 TD even the badger without a lucky game as I skipped past it to begin with but all the others are done now so I have to do it now

I realised that a low HP with high alpha would be the best approach but rather than inventing the wheel assumed others must have already looked for the better candidates with good guns and low HP

So cheers for all the posts, SU100Y is probably the best choice as my german TD crews aren't as good as my Russian ones
 

All_up_in_ur_grille #19 Posted 24 June 2018 - 02:51 AM

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Done the Obj 260 version of this mission (5x HP of damage) in the Jackson with stock turret which drops the hp down to 560 with no downside on dpm or view range

azakow #20 Posted 24 June 2018 - 09:54 AM

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I did this mission recently on Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger for the scondary conditions

800 HP -> 3.2k dmg

Spoiler

 


Edited by azakow, 24 June 2018 - 09:55 AM.





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