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Supertest News 22/06 - Province map

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Kandly #1 Posted 22 June 2018 - 02:06 PM

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We have news from Supertest: Province is currently being balanced (with no tier limitations for now).
 
Province has always been a special map. Some loved it, some hated it, some were always getting killed by invisible foes (regularly, within 10 seconds after battles started). It seemed there were no tankers with a neutral opinion on Province. When we took Province out of the game in 2015, the reaction was mixed. Quite a lot of people were actively demanding that we return it.
 
The map made its comeback in May 2018, and became special once again. The audience is split: some are grateful for having the legendary location back (there are such people, we swear), and some are asking us to introduce tier limitations. The latter are saying that the map is too crammed for top tier vehicles with great spotting ranges, and that the teams spend the battle being constantly lit up by the enemy. This opinion is expressed via the forum, the social networks, and YouTube. We want to assure you that we are following the situation and examining the feedback. Yet we think that some time is needed for the Province gameplay 'stabilization': the player base should get used to the location and develop map-specific tactics.
 
How long will it take? There's no exact answer; still, when the audience adapts to a location, we see this—because that map's overall stats stabilize. Usually this happens in 2 to 3 months after a map's release. So, in Province's case we're not yet ready to introduce any tier limitations: we need more data to support the feedback. We're going to monitor the average battle duration, how long different tanks survive on Province, what firing positions are most popular, and where vehicles are destroyed most often. The info we collect will influence the decision we take—together with your feedback. If the data supports the assumption that the map isn't suitable for top tiers, and if the community members continue to insist on it, we'll introduce the limitations by tier. Until then we kindly ask you to be patient, and share your reasoning in support (or against) the said limitations.
 
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So what are we changing now if we're not introducing limitations by tier?
Well there's a certain imbalance in team positions, and we intend to get rid of it. The eastern side currently has an upper hand and wins more often. The western team has less firing positions so they have less opportunities for building up and developing attacks. Today we'll try the improvements that should set the balance right.
 
Here they go:
1. The southwestern corner of the map. Several houses have been moved so it's easier for the western team to shoot at their opponents right from the start. (The eastern side is already able to do that.)
2. Near the monastery, on the eastern side's mountain slope. The nearby buildings' geometry has changed, allowing the team attacking from below and firing from behind them to be more efficient.
3. We've added a cover that will help the western team in a fight for the eastern team's mountain slope.
4. After the western side takes the position mentioned in (3), they can advance to a large rock which now is more comfortable as a cover and offers better protection from tank destroyer fire.
5. Both teams' bases. We've added several covered positions inside the capture circles to decrease the amount of draws. In the current map setup it's almost impossible to capture a base—both can be shoot through from any slope. Cover will increase your chances to grab a base, and will also make the defending team play more active. We'll see whether this works; we know that lots of people dislike base cover so we'll follow the issue closely.
6. We'll cover the backs of tankers from the western team defending the uphill road from the eastern attackers. Currently they are often shot at from the opposing slope.
 
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The Supertest starts today, and we need some time to analyze the results. We hope we'll be able to eliminate the existing imbalance.
As soon as we decide the fate of Province, we'll make an announcement shortly. Be sure to follow the news!
 
Good luck in your battles!


Vatican_Tank_Corps #2 Posted 22 June 2018 - 02:54 PM

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Good news indeed. I have some good damage battles, but I hate the map in its current state. Map is super-campy, and most of my high damage battles were ofc done when camping and against poor enemies trying to go forward on their spawn side - where is no cover and you can obliterate them to side.

breeeze #3 Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:40 PM

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Wargaming logic: The eastern side has a broken OP spot that dominates large parts of the map and allow outspotting opponents and shooting them from stealth, so to fix it, let's give a similarly OP spot to the other side. 

What kind of chimps are working in the map department? Have you ever played your own map? There's 2 major things that need changing, removing the cover from the broken OP spot in D7 and removing most of the cover from behind the spawns since they completely shut down any attempt of attacking into the spawn when theres a TD sitting somewhere in there that will never get spotted unless at proxy range.



Simeon85 #4 Posted 25 June 2018 - 10:59 AM

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View Postbreeeze, on 23 June 2018 - 04:40 PM, said:

 removing most of the cover from behind the spawns since they completely shut down any attempt of attacking into the spawn when theres a TD sitting somewhere in there that will never get spotted unless at proxy range.

 

This, the amount of concealment back there is just retarded. 



MeNoobTank #5 Posted 03 July 2018 - 04:23 PM

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View Postbreeeze, on 23 June 2018 - 04:40 PM, said:

Wargaming logic: The eastern side has a broken OP spot that dominates large parts of the map and allow outspotting opponents and shooting them from stealth, so to fix it, let's give a similarly OP spot to the other side. 

What kind of chimps are working in the map department? Have you ever played your own map? There's 2 major things that need changing, removing the cover from the broken OP spot in D7 and removing most of the cover from behind the spawns since they completely shut down any attempt of attacking into the spawn when theres a TD sitting somewhere in there that will never get spotted unless at proxy range.

 

Exactly + I will still give to this map max tier 6 restriction, same to Abbey and Mines. Maybe restriction to Ensk too.





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