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Proxy Spotting. A Good or Bad Feature?


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Poll: Proxy Spotting (57 members have cast votes)

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How do you feel about proxy spotting mechanics?

  1. I think it's GOOD (37 votes [64.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.91%

  2. I think it's BAD (10 votes [17.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.54%

  3. I think it's OK but needs some slight changes (10 votes [17.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.54%

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TungstenHitman #1 Posted 26 June 2018 - 02:47 PM

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Hi guys,

 

Did you ever consider if proximity spotting(the act of spotting enemy tanks without actually seeing them but simply being really close to them) is a good or bad thing? Interesting... I'm not sure how I feel about really. I use it myself to good effect and have had it done against me to good effect by another player. But, I wonder is it maybe better if you could not actually spot another tank unless you visually see some it?

 

At times, when I see 3-4 tanks locked down behind hard cover and cannot move just because one enemy tank is really close to them at the other side, and they cannot move without being wrecked and effectively their battle is over, I sometimes think maybe it's a bit harsh and we would be better without proxy spotting or some nerfed offering of it, especially as there are already so many bushes and tanks with huge view ranges and binocs etc. Other times, I think it is a very useful tool to be able to use. 

 

What do you guys think of proxy spotting, is it a good or bad thing or fine overall... or do you think maybe there are some elements of proxy that could be adjusted to improve the game? What could be adjusted to make it a better and perhaps fairer spotting mechanic? maybe proxy spotting only lights up a target for half the time, a quarter of the time? Something else?


Edited by TungstenHitman, 26 June 2018 - 02:51 PM.


baribal_80 #2 Posted 26 June 2018 - 03:02 PM

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It's a good feature. Not spotting a tank from under 50m would be ridiculous and it's a good option for deaf people who play the game since listening for the tank is not an option for them (and it would have to replace the proxy)

Ziurawka #3 Posted 26 June 2018 - 04:31 PM

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Superheavy tanks should be proxy spotted from 100m due to ground quaking. 

To be more serious, I'd be ok with removing proxy spot if WG removes Mines along with it.



Jigabachi #4 Posted 26 June 2018 - 04:35 PM

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Not really important if good or bad - it's a needed feature.

Enforcer1975 #5 Posted 26 June 2018 - 04:38 PM

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Well it's an ok feature on the other hand imagine two players jumping off their seats when they encounter an enemy tank at a corner...

Also bad that you can't ambush a player with proxy spot.  


Edited by Enforcer1975, 26 June 2018 - 04:39 PM.


Steve8066 #6 Posted 26 June 2018 - 05:31 PM

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its a good feature, but, and there is always a but with WOT, it doesnt always work.

tank276 #7 Posted 26 June 2018 - 05:43 PM

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I think it is good.

I mean I just think of it not existing, it would be silly for an enemy tank being 4 meters away from you in a city map corner and being invisible cause u dont have line of sight to him.



HassenderZerhacker #8 Posted 26 June 2018 - 05:44 PM

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I think it needs adjustments:

 

- only stationary tanks should be able to proxy spot

- tank in movement should be spotted from 75m, but stationary tank should only be spotted from 25m

 

 

 

 

View Posttank276, on 26 June 2018 - 05:43 PM, said:

I think it is good.

I mean I just think of it not existing, it would be silly for an enemy tank being 4 meters away from you in a city map corner and being invisible cause u dont have line of sight to him.

 

except when both tanks are moving
 

NUKLEAR_SLUG #9 Posted 26 June 2018 - 05:58 PM

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View PostSteve8066, on 26 June 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

its a good feature, but, and there is always a but with WOT, it doesnt always work.

 

Yes it does.

Enforcer1975 #10 Posted 26 June 2018 - 06:05 PM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 26 June 2018 - 05:44 PM, said:

I think it needs adjustments:

 

- only stationary tanks should be able to proxy spot

- tank in movement should be spotted from 75m, but stationary tank should only be spotted from 25m

 

 

 

If they add the option to turn of your engine then i don't mind but in return it should take you 10 seconds to crank it.



Procjon #11 Posted 26 June 2018 - 06:05 PM

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Don't want to be spotted? Just stop carrying that damn bell around your neck ;)

 

Spotting system is so so at this moment. To be OK or GOOD it should be adjusted so i can see a tank all the time once i spotted it 50 meters from me. Few games ago i had SU-152 easily disappearing from my sight after i shot him 2x, i guess a guy gave up and stopped shooting and moving but it was sick to see it OFF so suddenly. It was the only bush in open field that he was standing in it. It was really bizarre experience, like i shoot 2x and then PUFF.... nothing in front of me. To add even more unrealistic experience, that SU-152 while spotted was bigger than that bush he was standing in as he was kind if side scraping position toward me so his front and rear were sticking out.

 

HF

  



signal11th #12 Posted 26 June 2018 - 06:14 PM

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Personally I hate it.

Dorander #13 Posted 26 June 2018 - 06:21 PM

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I'd like to have a game without proxyspotting, but the current spot mechanics would also need an overhaul to accompany it. Removing proxyspotting would significantly impact gameplay, especially given how many maps work. Even reducing its spot range would have significant impact.

 

I've never liked proxyspotting as it made no sense to me, especially through solid objects. However the spot system is not realistic, it's a gameplay abstraction, so comparing it to reality is a bit futile.



baribal_80 #14 Posted 26 June 2018 - 06:45 PM

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Many of the coments that ask for greater realism are just plain wrong. Wot is an arcade game. This is why we enjoy it. If you want realizm try War Thunder. You will come back fast. The realistic elements make for slower games

OreH75 #15 Posted 26 June 2018 - 06:48 PM

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Without proxy spotting there would be much more "OMG Hax topics" on this forum because players without any minimap awareness at all (and there are a lot) would get raped even harder.

Bordhaw #16 Posted 26 June 2018 - 06:59 PM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 26 June 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

 

What do you guys think of proxy spotting, is it a good or bad thing or fine overall... or do you think maybe there are some elements of proxy that could be adjusted to improve the game? What could be adjusted to make it a better and perhaps fairer spotting mechanic? maybe proxy spotting only lights up a target for half the time, a quarter of the time? Something else?

 

Has it's good or bad points yes.

 

Really useful for spotting enemies on hills up above you so artillery or TD's can shoot them.

Obviously not really useful if you are that tank being spotted on top of the hill on mines for example. 



Pattonizer #17 Posted 26 June 2018 - 07:19 PM

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It's a must.

Remember, there is no such thing as plain sight in this game, however it has its downs in many cases.

Just try out War Thunder if you want realism, there you can rely on your eyes, pixels from 2000 meters can one shot you there. It's a fun thing, but let WOT be WOT.

Homer_J #18 Posted 26 June 2018 - 07:30 PM

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It's necessary until someone builds a better internet and WG can increase the spotting frequency by a few tens.

 

View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 26 June 2018 - 05:44 PM, said:

 

- only stationary tanks should be able to proxy spot

 

 

You would then have the situation of moving tanks driving right past each other.

HassenderZerhacker #19 Posted 27 June 2018 - 07:55 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 26 June 2018 - 07:30 PM, said:

It's necessary until someone builds a better internet and WG can increase the spotting frequency by a few tens.

 

 

You would then have the situation of moving tanks driving right past each other.

 

which really happens in combat

tankqull #20 Posted 27 June 2018 - 08:18 AM

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given the current spotting mechanic at whole, proxyspotting is required. even though i feel it could need some changes. but thats sth the entire spotting system has in common.




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