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chillsnotskills #1 Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:02 PM

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Honestly, i do. I know it's stupid, it's just a game. I always say to myself *edited* it, i don't care if i end the grind with 40% or 55% wr. But then when i bring the wr up a little i always start to get nervous when i have losing streaks and wr just plunges down.

Is all that in our nature? To want to be better? 

But at the end of the day it's just a game and i sometimes get really nervous because of it.

 

What about you? Do you track your wr? Do you get nervous if it plunges down? Be honest.


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HonoredStone #2 Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:06 PM

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Win rate is much more important than wn8

Enforcer1975 #3 Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:08 PM

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Humans are competetive by nature. If we weren't we wouldn't be where we are now and still be running from predators. On the other hand we would also have less stupid around since nowadays survival of the fittest doesn't apply to us humans anymore. 

Kozzy #4 Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:13 PM

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It's a game you play against other people.  The object of the game is to win.  Winning more than you win means you are, on average, a help to your team.  Win rate is the best indicator to whether or not, on average, you help or hinder the team so yeah I tend to care about it, certainly more than any other stat.

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 27 June 2018 - 01:08 PM, said:

 On the other hand we would also have less stupid around since nowadays survival of the fittest doesn't apply to us humans anymore. 

 

 

Darwin takes care of those. They usually end up on YouTube.



Dava_117 #6 Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:15 PM

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There was a time I really card about my WR. But luckily is gone. Staring at a plot being sad because the line is dropping is just plain stupid. I still like when I got a good WR on a tank, but now I don't really care anymore about the general one. :)

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Dr_ownape #7 Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:24 PM

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View PostHonoredStone, on 27 June 2018 - 01:06 PM, said:

Win rate is much more important than wn8

 

 

No it's not as it's far easier to pad

 

edit: seems a little harsh. WR is difficult to maintain if for example you play a lot of SPG or light tanks as you cannot carry a game as much in these classes therefore you are more team dependent. Platooning a lot with like skilled players will naturally increase your WR 10-20% leading to an inflated result. You must take a number of factors into consideration, WR is just one of many


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View Postchillsnotskills, on 27 June 2018 - 01:02 PM, said:

Honestly, i do. I know it's stupid, it's just a game. I always say to myself *edited* it, i don't care if i end the grind with 40% or 55% wr. But then when i bring the wr up a little i always start to get nervous when i have losing streaks and wr just plunges down.

Is all that in our nature? To want to be better? 

But at the end of the day it's just a game and i sometimes get really nervous because of it.

 

What about you? Do you track your wr? Do you get nervous if it plunges down? Be honest.

 

if you are not trying to be better in everything you do, you are getting worse and sudenly became potatoe

wEight_Tanker #9 Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:30 PM

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I don't. I just use it along with my wn8 to measure how good I am and how awful some battles can be where I find myself in a difficult situation to do any better. Unless, I get lucky.

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View PostDr_ownape, on 27 June 2018 - 01:24 PM, said:

 

 

No it's not as it's far easier to pad

 

edit: seems a little harsh. WR is difficult to maintain if for example you play a lot of SPG or light tanks as you cannot carry a game as much in these classes therefore you are more team dependent. Platooning a lot with like skilled players will naturally increase your WR 10-20% leading to an inflated result. You must take a number of factors into consideration, WR is just one of many

 

in open maps lights can carry and i think you know that for sure. I would prefer light tank in open map over heavy.

StinkyStonky #11 Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:46 PM

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View PostHonoredStone, on 27 June 2018 - 01:06 PM, said:

Win rate is much more important than wn8

 

I agree, but ...

 

WN8 has a much better scale than Win Rate.

 

It's interesting to look at what "important" means. 

If you are trying to grind tanks, crew and credits then win rate IS more important.  Wining games gives you more XP than a good performance in a loss.

If you are trying to get into a top clan, mark a tank or complete some mission, then damage, and hence WN8 will be more important.

 

But ...

 

The point I wanted to make was about the scale. 

WN8 is roughly linear and has a range of approximately 500 - 3500

WR is on a bell curve and has a range of approximately 45 - 65.

 

Let me illustrate

Imagine a mediocre player.  They play 1000 games and get a WR of 48.6% and a WN8 of 800.

They give the account to their brother who is an good player.  He plays 1000 games and gets a recent WR of 51.3% and a WN8 of 1600.

He gives the account to their cousin who is an very good player.  He plays 1000 games and gets a recent WR of 55.3% and a WN8 of 2400.

He gives the account to his friend who is an excellent player.  He plays 1000 games and gets a recent WR of 61.3% and a WN8 of 3200.

 

The key point is that 48.6, 51.3 and 55.3 all look much of a muchness but 800, 1600 and 2400 look very different to each other.

 

So WN8 is a better stat for VISUALLY distinguishing between players.

 

 



Stereoscope #12 Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:50 PM

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I don't care for any of my stats.  Most battles I play I at the same time do other things.  For example watch videos, read news, etc.  My stats suffer a lot, I couldn't care less.  The only thing I kinda care about is my accuracy.  

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View Posttrusteft, on 27 June 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

I don't care for any of my stats.  Most battles I play I at the same time do other things.  For example watch videos, read news, etc.  My stats suffer a lot, I couldn't care less.  The only thing I kinda care about is my accuracy. 

 

 

But this is a team game, don't you care for your team?



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Yes to an extent. 

 

You have to understand that grinding new tanks and tech lines means you are going to run into rubbish tanks and less than ideal crews.

 

So if I am grinding something painful, sometimes my WR will start to drop and I will take a break grinding and play some solid performers.

 

I don't stat pad though (i.e. playing a strong tank exclusively).



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View PostDr_ownape, on 27 June 2018 - 01:54 PM, said:

 

 

But this is a team game, don't you care for your team?

 

Is this a joke?

I will not do anything to harm my team, but care about it?  No.  I will do what I can for the team to win, but only within the parameters I have set.  

 



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View Posttrusteft, on 27 June 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

 

Is this a joke?

I will not do anything to harm my team, but care about it?  No.  I will do what I can for the team to win, but only within the parameters I have set. 

 

 

then for the benefit of this community and the 14 other players on your team I implore you to go play a single player game

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View PostStinkyStonky, on 27 June 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

 

 

The key point is that 48.6, 51.3 and 55.3 all look much of a muchness but 800, 1600 and 2400 look very different to each other.

 

So WN8 is a better stat for VISUALLY distinguishing between players.

 

 

The difference between a 48% er and 55% is a lot. To a layman that makes sense but most wot players know that if someone has a wn8 of 800 they will have a low wr, if they have a wn8 of 2400 they will probably have a decent wr.

 

For me wr rules as u can only pad that by playing low tiers, its near impossible to hide. Wn8 is far more complicated and easier to "fix"



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View PostDr_ownape, on 27 June 2018 - 01:24 PM, said:

No it's not as it's far easier to pad

 

edit: seems a little harsh. 

 

I don't think it's harsh. But context is everything. It's a lot harder to read the context for an account that's being going from Beta where some of the tanks are from the early years, and with different MM's and maps.

 

I get lots of PM's about being a "statpadder" for having loads of T67 games, but people seem to always skip past the fact my most played vehicle is the FV 304 with a 58% winrate virtually all solo. It probably doesn't fit the stereotype to call someone a statpadder in arty!

 

If someone's a re-roll with 5k games and 3k are in the T67 then the context is a lot easier to read. 

 

For some odd reason I just like shooting at long ranges.....but not all the time.

 

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View PostDr_ownape, on 27 June 2018 - 01:54 PM, said:

 

But this is a team game, don't you care for your team?

 

As long as he appears on your team and the enemy team 50% of the time, why does it matter ?

 

FWIW that was rhetorical.  It doesn't matter.  High stat players have a far more damaging effect on this game than tomatoes.

 



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View PostDr_ownape, on 27 June 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

then for the benefit of this community and the 14 other players on your team I implore you to go play a single player game

 

Oh don't worry I am close to quiting the game for good.

Although just for this ridiculous post, I might keep playing for more.  Will see.

 






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