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Poll: SPG-free server (124 members have cast votes)

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Do you want SPG arty-free server?

  1. Yes (55 votes [36.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.18%

  2. No (65 votes [42.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.76%

  3. I dont know (8 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  4. One arty per game! (24 votes [15.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.79%

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MicoMorifi #1 Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:09 AM

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Artyfree server would be great I think :) or only one arty ..

Edited by MicoMorifi, 28 June 2018 - 11:16 AM.


Jigabachi #2 Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:11 AM

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People using the search function and thinking before the post would be great, too, I think.

Edited by Jigabachi, 28 June 2018 - 09:11 AM.


Enforcer1975 #3 Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:13 AM

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WG doesn't care.

Dorander #4 Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:20 AM

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:child::arta:

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MaxxyNL #5 Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:28 AM

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View PostMicoMorifi, on 28 June 2018 - 10:09 AM, said:

Artyfree server would be great I think :)

 

:facepalm:

unhappy_bunny #6 Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:33 AM

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View PostMicoMorifi, on 28 June 2018 - 09:09 AM, said:

Artyfree server would be great I think :)

 

1. Why do you think that? 

2. Why start yet another poll on this subject?



Flavortown #7 Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:38 AM

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While it would be great for the game it wouldnt be fair for all the simpletons who are left alone artying each other :(

DuncaN_101 #8 Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:40 AM

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Original idea let's get on this straight away... Ow wait.

Also voted all options because I could.

Sirebellus #9 Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:02 AM

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as long as we can have a server without HT, one without MT, one without TD and one without LT's, and one without autoloading tanks of any description

I mean personally I get a lot more irritated by having half my HP taken in one hit by a laser guided unseen TD than getting splash damage and stun from an SPG... 
and I am sure players of large Japanese HT's would rather not have to put up with LT's
and we would all play without Autoloaders on the opposite team if we could

adameitas #10 Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:13 AM

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View PostSirebellus, on 28 June 2018 - 10:02 AM, said:

as long as we can have a server without HT, one without MT, one without TD and one without LT's, and one without autoloading tanks of any description

I mean personally I get a lot more irritated by having half my HP taken in one hit by a laser guided unseen TD than getting splash damage and stun from an SPG... 
and I am sure players of large Japanese HT's would rather not have to put up with LT's
and we would all play without Autoloaders on the opposite team if we could

 

no offense but to understand why arty is bad you must be a better player. When i was bad player i didnt care about arty. When i became better arty became main evil to me. Arty as class is outdated and not needed in this game for years now but bc of many reasons wg wont remove it until popularity of this wont drastically decrease.

MicoMorifi #11 Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:17 AM

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I added "only one arty" option in poll. I think it would be better then nothing.

iztok #12 Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:31 AM

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@OP

Member since 2012 and you just recently discovered forums?



Gremlin182 #13 Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:36 AM

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Ignores till wargaming climbs down from off the fence and makes an official statement.

Not that I expect that to happen as any decision probably loses players while no decision gives hope to all sides.



Sirebellus #14 Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:39 AM

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View Postadameitas, on 28 June 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

 

no offense but to understand why arty is bad you must be a better player. When i was bad player i didnt care about arty. When i became better arty became main evil to me. Arty as class is outdated and not needed in this game for years now but bc of many reasons wg wont remove it until popularity of this wont drastically decrease.

 

So the problem you are saying is Arty focus because you are a 'better player'... which means it's not an arty problem at all, but a XVM problem... If no-one knew that you were a better player then Arty would bother you no more than it does me

Probably a lot easier to persuade WG to ban XVM than it is to get them to take out a major component of their game




 



RSAGhost #15 Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:59 AM

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If you know clan tags from good clans xvm is not even needed so i would say 1 arty per game is oky with me but i mean being in a heavy on prokarovka with no cover 3 artys is not fun.To OP there is a big spg discussion thread so can this please be moved there.This is the gameplay thread and arty is not real game play cmonBruh

Simeon85 #16 Posted 28 June 2018 - 12:06 PM

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View PostSirebellus, on 28 June 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

as long as we can have a server without HT, one without MT, one without TD and one without LT's, and one without autoloading tanks of any description

I mean personally I get a lot more irritated by having half my HP taken in one hit by a laser guided unseen TD than getting splash damage and stun from an SPG... 
and I am sure players of large Japanese HT's would rather not have to put up with LT's
and we would all play without Autoloaders on the opposite team if we could

 

Yeh that 'argument' was debunked a long time ago.  All the other's can be outplayed and countered, arty you cannot counter or outplay, it's the nature of having a indirect fire class compared to everyone else working within the constraints of direct fire.  It's basically a 'legal' cheat built into the game, whilst all the other classes have to worry about risk, return fire and using the various mechanics to avoid that (i.e armour use, camo use, terrain use, mobility use etc.) arty does not need to bother with that, generally you can shoot whoever you want, whenever you want and not have to worry about being shot back. 

 

I can defeat, outplay, counter TDs, heavies, lights, and meds by using my tank correctly, positioning properly and using my game knowledge. I can also anticipate and prepare for them attacking me because I know from where they are likely to attack or shoot from and I can use terrain to prevent them attacking me whilst I kill them. Until end game, there is nothing I can about arty but hope it misses/target someone else or basically hide unspotted all the time.


Even hiding behind large cover doesn;t work anymore due to the large splash damage arty has. 

 

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What I always find funny about the response to this request is why anyone would be against it, considering what all the arty defenders tell us.

 

Cos apparently the 'silent majority' loves arty and would never like to see it gone. So if this was true, an arty free server would cause no harm, it would supposedly be less popular and everyone could get on with having their fun. 

 

It's basically a win win. 

 

Yet arty defenders are always against it. 

 

I wonder why, could it be that actually the playerbase would flock the arty free server and the other server would be poorly populated full of clickers waiting for a game and every game would be 3 arty a side, which we all know is horrible, so even more people would flock to the other server. 

 

It;s almost like arty is a broken mechanic that negatively impacts gameplay and brings little positive to the game, oh wait that is exactly what it is! :D

 



Scotviking1968 #17 Posted 28 June 2018 - 12:17 PM

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and yet arty, working with a team can be a beautiful thing...  it gives meaning to lights and to spotting, gives assist to mediums by stunning, blasts open holes in layered heavy defences, counters enemy arty, blunts attacks and can remove td's unreachable by other tanks....

 

or is it just red arty that is so bad ?


Edited by Scotviking1968, 28 June 2018 - 12:18 PM.


krismorgan #18 Posted 28 June 2018 - 12:20 PM

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No option for a whine free server?

Balc0ra #19 Posted 28 June 2018 - 12:21 PM

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I want a super heavy free server when I play my meds and lights. But we can't all get what we want. As arty is low on my hate list tbh vs most other stuff. They don't even got for me that often vs other classes that I find them THAT annoying. 

Edited by Balc0ra, 28 June 2018 - 12:22 PM.


SuperOlsson #20 Posted 28 June 2018 - 12:23 PM

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View PostScotviking1968, on 28 June 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

and yet arty, working with a team can be a beautiful thing...  it gives meaning to lights and to spotting, gives assist to mediums by stunning, blasts open holes in layered heavy defences, counters enemy arty, blunts attacks and can remove td's unreachable by other tanks....

 

...and shoot/splash their teammates. Green arties are just as bad because for every green arty there is a red one.

 

Arty free server would be win-win, arty haters get rid of arty and arty-lovers will probably get 3-arty games all the time.


Edited by SuperOlsson, 28 June 2018 - 12:24 PM.





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