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Argedeava #1 Posted 29 June 2018 - 11:49 AM

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After the recent nerf to the premium ammo there`s an ongoing evaluation of the impact that measure had. The nerf is that it can`t be purchased directly with gold.

What do you guys think?

Should it be ready by now? Is it ready?The evaluation. Does it need deeper understanding and takes longer than expected? Is it a 5 year plan?

Will we ever hear anything about it?

 



peekakilla #2 Posted 29 June 2018 - 12:00 PM

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Joneleth #3 Posted 29 June 2018 - 12:10 PM

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Does need all that much evaluation: prem ammo breaks the game (mostly) for 1 class of tanks (superheavies, which are now made with butter for everyone), and does not change a thing for MTs and LTs...

=> Anything that breaks a whole class of tanks is stupid.



Geno1isme #4 Posted 29 June 2018 - 12:12 PM

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It's going just as fine as the rebalancing of preferential matchmaking premiums or the overall techtree rebalancing.

SovietBias #5 Posted 29 June 2018 - 02:01 PM

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I heard that there will be an article soon explaining how standard ammo is creating problems, namely that it is too powerful and is being overused. Their proposal is to create even more tanks that have no weak spots and are immune to standard ammo, thus solving the problem of underusage (around 5%)  and lost relevance.

Edited by SovietBias, 29 June 2018 - 02:04 PM.


NoobySkooby #6 Posted 29 June 2018 - 02:08 PM

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What evaluation does it need, everyone spams it now (deeply frowned upon, unless your a Dinger:trollface:) to the point of just having to do the same yourself, but then I am a noob and a half so it is ok for me to do it too:D

 

 

 

Maybe just maybe the standard ammo could get a boost or a buff, or something useful, as by ther time I have figured a weak spot on a tank, they have spammed 'prammo' and I am in ruins, yet again:amazed:



vasilinhorulezz #7 Posted 29 June 2018 - 02:19 PM

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Show us in the image where the bad premium shell touched you:

 

 

 



Tidal_Force #8 Posted 29 June 2018 - 03:43 PM

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View PostArgedeava, on 29 June 2018 - 10:49 AM, said:

The nerf is that it can`t be purchased directly with gold.

 

How is that supposed to be a nerf?

Argedeava #9 Posted 29 June 2018 - 05:52 PM

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View PostTidal_Force, on 29 June 2018 - 03:43 PM, said:

 

How is that supposed to be a nerf?

 

Some like things smooth, and don`t like to be bothered to buy credits with gold and than purchase premium ammo. So they may loose a segment of the playerbase. Hence the resemblance of a nerf.

Edited by Argedeava, 29 June 2018 - 05:52 PM.


MD_Titus #10 Posted 29 June 2018 - 06:26 PM

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Someone not good enough to earn the credits to use premium ammo?

peekakilla #11 Posted 29 June 2018 - 06:33 PM

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View PostMD_Titus, on 29 June 2018 - 06:26 PM, said:

Someone not good enough to earn the credits to use premium ammo?

 

badass....are you a blackbelt in stealing your mom's credit card?

MD_Titus #12 Posted 30 June 2018 - 08:49 AM

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No, i'm an adult with a job and disposable income, you despicable pauper.

peekakilla #13 Posted 30 June 2018 - 09:42 AM

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View PostMD_Titus, on 30 June 2018 - 08:49 AM, said:

No, i'm an adult with a job and disposable income, you despicable pauper.

 

you didnt get the joke big boy......:P



vixu #14 Posted 30 June 2018 - 11:02 AM

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View PostArgedeava, on 29 June 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

After the recent nerf to the premium ammo there`s an ongoing evaluation of the impact that measure had. The nerf is that it can`t be purchased directly with gold.

What do you guys think?

Should it be ready by now? Is it ready?The evaluation. Does it need deeper understanding and takes longer than expected? Is it a 5 year plan?

Will we ever hear anything about it?

 

 

you've missed the point. gold ammo was not nerfed yet.

 

Making it silver only is the preparation. Gold is something that you get for real cash. So to avoid major outcry if players about WG stealing their precious hard-cash-bought rounds the game has to drain those gold rounds. 

The real rebalancing will come after that.



LordMuffin #15 Posted 30 June 2018 - 03:31 PM

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View PostJoneleth, on 29 June 2018 - 12:10 PM, said:

Does need all that much evaluation: prem ammo breaks the game (mostly) for 1 class of tanks (superheavies, which are now made with butter for everyone), and does not change a thing for MTs and LTs...

=> Anything that breaks a whole class of tanks is stupid.

 

I.... I do not remember how armoured tanks works. I have tried. I have tried to recreate it, to spark it anew in my memory, but it is gone.... a hallow, dead thing. For years, I clung to the memory of it, then the memory of the memory. And then nothing. The premium ammo took that away from me, too. I look upon armoured tanks and feel nothing. I remember nothing but armoured tanks turning their back on me due to premium ammo. Once, my thirst for armoured tanks was everything. And now I hunger only for the removal of premium ammo. And I... WILL... HAVE IT!!!!

 

I think a post such as the one above would have been much more in line with your character.

 

'You play as an average player, taking no advantage of the armour your tanks gift you. So many ways to use it lies around you, but you insist on ignorance. See these enemies around you, and see how easily you fall to their medium tanks and premium ammo. Why do you stand for this? Why do you submit to whining when killing medium tanks is bred in your heavies? Do you realise the power of armour and hp? When you grasp the power born in the armoured tanks, even medium tanks and premiums spammers will fall.'


Edited by LordMuffin, 30 June 2018 - 03:46 PM.


MD_Titus #16 Posted 30 June 2018 - 04:20 PM

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View Postpeekakilla, on 30 June 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

 

you didnt get the joke big boy......:P

Clearly, but then there's little joking on here tbf.

Also, hais sensai.



Stereoscope #17 Posted 30 June 2018 - 04:23 PM

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View PostArgedeava, on 29 June 2018 - 10:49 AM, said:

After the recent nerf to the premium ammo there`s an ongoing evaluation of the impact that measure had. The nerf is that it can`t be purchased directly with gold.

What do you guys think?

Should it be ready by now? Is it ready?The evaluation. Does it need deeper understanding and takes longer than expected? Is it a 5 year plan?

Will we ever hear anything about it?

 

 

How the fap was it a nerf?

Instead of buying it through gold directly from the load ammo screen, you now first have to buy credits, with in game gold/real money.  

Instead of "one" click you do it with "two".



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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 29 June 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

Show us in the image where the bad premium shell touched you:



SkipperCH #19 Posted 30 June 2018 - 04:50 PM

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View Posttrusteft, on 30 June 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

 

How the fap was it a nerf?

Instead of buying it through gold directly from the load ammo screen, you now first have to buy credits, with in game gold/real money.  

Instead of "one" click you do it with "two".

 

Correct. But for your real money aka gold you buy credits. This is the law relevant transaction here. The value of your gold (1=400) is not affected. You get your silver. Whatever you do with this silver afterwards is not relevant from a law perspective. Following this logic WG is currently trying to deplete the (I guess) millions of gold bought premium rounds from the player storages. After this process is completed they can make changes. Because after that the premium rounds can not be directly purchased by real money. 

 

Same goes for premium tanks. Nerfing a product you bought for real money? In many countries this is a big no no. Imagine you buy a new car but after half a year the manufaturer decides that you got to many horsepower for your money and limits it by 10%. You immediately are able to sue because your buying contract stated a car with 100% power not 90%. Same can be applied here. 

 

But how this is in any relevance to the "evaluation process" I don't know. WG definetly knew ahead of their article about it that they would tweak around with premium ammo. It was no decision by a lonely programmer. So the process is likely to go back quite a while. Including Supertesters, CC's, etc. But when we will get an update? Hard to say regarding WG's communication policy (i.e. perfecting PMM's)



Gremlin182 #20 Posted 30 June 2018 - 04:55 PM

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The Nerf sry rebalance comes later they stated that.

Stage one remove the gold option from premium ammo wait till the premium ammo usage means no one can reasonably say hey don't touch my premium ammo I paid real money for that.

Then rebalance the ammo






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