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Zinomov #1 Posted 02 July 2018 - 06:10 PM

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high tier 105 mm gun's alpha damage must be changed from 390 to 360 (just like the italian top tier meds)

reasons :
-the alpha is too high for a 105 mm since 100 mm deal only 320 at high tiers and there's only a 5 mm difference between these calibers
-since its 390 it can roll as high as a heavy tank shot which is utterly crazy for a medium and can easely blow away brit and american 120 mm guns with their 400 alpha
-there are so many other reasons but i guess these two up-there are more than enough

P.S : don't come crying here saying it's crazy, rather what im saying is pure logic and this change should have been applied ages ago

Edited by Zinomov, 02 July 2018 - 06:11 PM.


Dr_ownape #2 Posted 02 July 2018 - 06:34 PM

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ok thanks

evilchaosmonkey #3 Posted 02 July 2018 - 06:38 PM

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Give us a clue here, what tank are you talking about here?

 

ps:  adding that it's pure logic doesn't bode well for your post.

pps:  fairly surprised you haven't got the qpranger seal of approval yet.

ppps:  why not put the win rate curve up and demonstrate that it's clearly an OP tank with 390 alpha?

pppps:  replay or it didn't happen.

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vixu #4 Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:00 PM

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I'd say that laws of physics dictate that caliber is not enough to determine the damage.

Projectile energy is , and that is not taking into account projectile form and type (HE, APCR etc).

 



 


Edited by vixu, 02 July 2018 - 07:04 PM.


Zinomov #5 Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:03 PM

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#evilchaosmonkey

every medium tank from tier 8 to 10 that has a 105 mm dealing 390 alpha shall be dropped to 360
+ i won't bother myself explaining to u why i'm right, cause if u can't figure this out than go get a life
 
for example having a UDES or a revalorisé dealing the same damage as an IS-3 with a way smaller caliber gun aswell as having way better DPM is madness

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Bordhaw #6 Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:14 PM

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View PostZinomov, on 02 July 2018 - 05:10 PM, said:

high tier 105 mm gun's alpha damage must be changed from 390 to 360 (just like the italian top tier meds)

reasons :
-the alpha is too high for a 105 mm since 100 mm deal only 320 at high tiers and there's only a 5 mm difference between these calibers
-since its 390 it can roll as high as a heavy tank shot which is utterly crazy for a medium and can easely blow away brit and american 120 mm guns with their 400 alpha
-there are so many other reasons but i guess these two up-there are more than enough

P.S : don't come crying here saying it's crazy, rather what im saying is pure logic and this change should have been applied ages ago

 

So in the real world the diameter of the 105mm shells compared to the 100mm shells between the years 1954 to 1961 mean that .... actually who cares. 

Zinomov #7 Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:19 PM

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it is because of the carelessness of people such as yourself that this game got so unbalanced

FluffyRedFox #8 Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:27 PM

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Alpha damage is purely for balance reasons and is not dependent on gun caliber.

evilchaosmonkey #9 Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:43 PM

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View PostZinomov, on 02 July 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

it is because of the carelessness of people such as yourself that this game got so unbalanced

 

Try thinking about physics and what causes damage (hint it's the transfer of energy) then come back and present an argument that has a modicum of sense around it.

 



FluffyRedFox #10 Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:48 PM

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View Postevilchaosmonkey, on 02 July 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:

 

Try thinking about physics and what causes damage (hint it's the transfer of energy) then come back and present an argument that has a modicum of sense around it.

 

Dude do you not know just how bad of a state the game is in purely because of all of those dirty 390 alpha 105 mediums? 

Who the hell do those mediums think they are, rolling 390 average, bah!



Private_Pearts #11 Posted 02 July 2018 - 08:15 PM

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Hold my beer. I've got this...........................

105mm diameter bullet travelling at 1500m/s vs 122mm bullet travelling at 1200m/s. All else being equal which one will cause the most damage?

 

 



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Dear god

vasilinhorulezz #13 Posted 02 July 2018 - 08:29 PM

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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

demon_tank #14 Posted 02 July 2018 - 08:58 PM

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THE GAME IS NOT A REAL WORLD SIMULATOR.

 

THERE IS NO LAW THAT DICTATES THAT ALPHA DMG MUST BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH GUN CALIBER.

 

ALPHA DMG IS DETERMINED BY OVERALL BALANCE OF A TANK AND TIERS.

 

GET YOUR *edited*TOGETHER.

 

P.S. Do us all a favour and never make a suggestion again.


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Shizuthink #15 Posted 02 July 2018 - 09:12 PM

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View PostZinomov, on 02 July 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

it is because of the carelessness of people such as yourself that this game got so unbalanced

 

Eh? Do you realize that the current damage difference between guns exist because of balance reasons? (not saying everything is perfectly balanced but come on lol)

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View PostZinomov, on 02 July 2018 - 07:10 PM, said:

high tier 105 mm gun's alpha damage must be changed from 390 to 360 (just like the italian top tier meds)

reasons :
-the alpha is too high for a 105 mm since 100 mm deal only 320 at high tiers and there's only a 5 mm difference between these calibers
-since its 390 it can roll as high as a heavy tank shot which is utterly crazy for a medium and can easely blow away brit and american 120 mm guns with their 400 alpha
-there are so many other reasons but i guess these two up-there are more than enough

P.S : don't come crying here saying it's crazy, rather what im saying is pure logic and this change should have been applied ages ago

 

who cares when we have 430U

Mko #17 Posted 02 July 2018 - 10:01 PM

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The damage per mm formula of WOT is really weird. Is there even a formula or did someone just pull the numbers out of their back side?

Cuck0osNest #18 Posted 02 July 2018 - 10:12 PM

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You know why higher damage per shot matters? Because of spot and radio mechanics, which are atm tuned for comfort monetization role. When shooting will be available only by own view ranges with temporal bonuses from radio transmit, there will be no topics like this.

Edited by Cuck0osNest, 17 July 2018 - 09:53 PM.


DuncaN_101 #19 Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:38 AM

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Ow look the resident forum jester has joined the conversation.

This should be good.

NoobySkooby #20 Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:43 AM

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View PostZinomov, on 02 July 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

high tier 105 mm gun's alpha damage must be changed from 390 to 360 (just like the italian top tier meds)

reasons :
-the alpha is too high for a 105 mm since 100 mm deal only 320 at high tiers and there's only a 5 mm difference between these calibers
-since its 390 it can roll as high as a heavy tank shot which is utterly crazy for a medium and can easely blow away brit and american 120 mm guns with their 400 alpha
-there are so many other reasons but i guess these two up-there are more than enough

P.S : don't come crying here saying it's crazy, rather what im saying is pure logic and this change should have been applied ages ago

 

But aren't you crying about big guns?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I love bigs guns ands I want more:trollface:






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