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r0f #1 Posted 03 July 2018 - 06:14 AM

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So how about this one?  What do you guys think? :)

 

Personally I think the video is pretty interesting.

oh it's in Russian with English subs, but that just might make it more valid right :trollface:

oh the 24/7 wg forumite undercovers can reply as well ofc but we all know your answers already  :trollface:

oh wg wg wg ... come on lets just battle like we used to do in 2012 :arta:

 

wwwwwggggggggg

 

 


Edited by r0f, 03 July 2018 - 06:20 AM.


gunslingerXXX #2 Posted 03 July 2018 - 06:28 AM

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5/10. Maybe 1-2 extra for the 'host'.


 

Very obvious, lots of open doors kicked in....


 

Sure the game is designed to keep you hooked, but still you press battle yourself each time. Keep it simple, if it's not fun (FOOTBAL MODE ANYONE????) just don't play it. As clearly pointed out the rewards are not worth it.


 



Zedrick #3 Posted 03 July 2018 - 06:33 AM

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 03 July 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

5/10. Maybe 1-2 extra for the 'host'.

 

Minus 1-2 points. I do NOT approve of her hairstyle, and it's most likely illegal in some country.

gunslingerXXX #4 Posted 03 July 2018 - 06:46 AM

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View PostZedrick, on 03 July 2018 - 06:33 AM, said:

 

Minus 1-2 points. I do NOT approve of her hairstyle, and it's most likely illegal in some country.

Agree, was already deducted. Would have been +3-4 with long hair.



r0f #5 Posted 03 July 2018 - 06:49 AM

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mmh, oh yes let's be ready for the usual World of Tanks forum insults ™ as well :trollface:

Edited by r0f, 03 July 2018 - 06:50 AM.


unhappy_bunny #6 Posted 03 July 2018 - 07:31 AM

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View Postr0f, on 03 July 2018 - 06:14 AM, said:

So how about this one?  What do you guys think? :)

 

Personally I think the video is pretty interesting.

oh it's in Russian with English subs, but that just might make it more valid right :trollface:

oh the 24/7 wg forumite undercovers can reply as well ofc but we all know your answers already  :trollface:

oh wg wg wg ... come on lets just battle like we used to do in 2012 :arta:

 

wwwwwggggggggg

 

 

 

Video was pretty Meh.

Being in Russian means nothing. 

Still just speculation as the actual mechanics are known only to WG.

Could be right, but just as easily, could be wrong.

Would make a good episode of Ancient Aliens. 

Nice to see qpranger making himself useful. Will he be the next big star in Hollywood?

 

At the end of the day, disaffected players will accept it, and contented players will reject it. 



Long_Range_Sniper #7 Posted 03 July 2018 - 07:39 AM

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So the premise is, that if a game is addictive it's rigged. One does not automatically follow the other.

 

Now, the hamster science is relevant, and does at least show that qpranger is controlled by WG which we all knew.



an0ther #8 Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:21 AM

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Stop the press! Who would have guessed? F2P developers take advantage of psychology tricks for monetization and player retention.



HundeWurst #9 Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:28 AM

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Thats not even new. There is also an English video about this.

 

And sadly its 100 percent true.

 

View Postan0ther, on 03 July 2018 - 09:21 AM, said:

Stop the press! Who would have guessed? F2P developers take advantage of psychology tricks for monetization and player retention.


That would not even be an issue. But WG uses phycological tricks to make us perform the same stupid tasks over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Most wont play the game for the gameplay, which on top went down the hill since ages, but for the random rewards of nice games. WG even admitted that and directly told us this. The RNG is where it is for exactly that effect. Most likely the balance is done the way it is for this trick. It appears a lot of things are done the way they are to benifit from this manipulation.

 

But a disclaimer. WG, by any means, is not the only company doing this. Pretty much all, or most AAA games are based on this one trick these days. There are just so few games out there which are just good to the core.


Edited by HundeWurst, 03 July 2018 - 09:32 AM.


OreH75 #10 Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:28 AM

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View Postr0f, on 03 July 2018 - 06:14 AM, said:

 

Is qpranger in the video making business these days? 

Kozzy #11 Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:32 AM

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View PostOreH75, on 03 July 2018 - 08:28 AM, said:

 

Is qpranger in the video making business these days? 

 

Not the kind of videos you would want to show your family, that's for sure!

Itchy_Pants #12 Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:43 AM

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The video's broadly correct, but the techniques of manipulation are hardly unique to WoT or even online games in general. The same or similar things happen for just about any other consumer product out there. What's the big deal?

Kozzy #13 Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:49 AM

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View PostItchy_Pants, on 03 July 2018 - 08:43 AM, said:

The video's broadly correct, but the techniques of manipulation are hardly unique to WoT or even online games in general. The same or similar things happen for just about any other consumer product out there. What's the big deal?

 

I'm guessing this guy is studying marketing 101 and is shocked by things companies will do to sell more products!  just wait until he reads about companies raising the price of a product shortly before 'discounting' it.

NUKLEAR_SLUG #14 Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:54 AM

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You think that's bad? I've heard tell of companies claiming their products are better than their competitors. Do these people have no morals?

Enforcer1975 #15 Posted 03 July 2018 - 10:03 AM

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There is no "top level" in WG....it's your thing what you do in your spare time. WG and other companies offer services and it's up to you if you want to use / pay for them.

Also is this a "i am pissed because WG prevents me from becoming a unicum"??? Wake up OP it's you.



HanZi #16 Posted 03 July 2018 - 10:22 AM

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View Postr0f, on 03 July 2018 - 06:14 AM, said:

So how about this one?  What do you guys think? :)

 

Personally I think the video is pretty interesting.

oh it's in Russian with English subs, but that just might make it more valid right :trollface:

oh the 24/7 wg forumite undercovers can reply as well ofc but we all know your answers already  :trollface:

oh wg wg wg ... come on lets just battle like we used to do in 2012 :arta:

 

wwwwwggggggggg

 

 

 

Yeah P2W aswell. failing 100% shots is another way to controlling wins/losses.

Homer_J #17 Posted 03 July 2018 - 10:25 AM

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View Postr0f, on 03 July 2018 - 06:14 AM, said:

oh wg wg wg ... come on lets just battle like we used to do in 2012 :arta:

 

 

Because there were no tinfoil hat theories flying around back then?



Headless_Rooster #18 Posted 03 July 2018 - 10:38 AM

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I guess Russian Satire doesn't translate too well...

 

"Back then I used to have my own big company, family, wife, daughter... or a son" .... "Nevermind" .... now I have the IS7

 

Too subtle?

 

It's probably an advert.



Fighto #19 Posted 03 July 2018 - 11:07 AM

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malachi6 #20 Posted 03 July 2018 - 11:21 AM

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Pretty much every video game ever made makes use of operant or classical conditioning.  It's hardly news but worthy of discussion from a moralistic standpoint when it encourages people to send money.





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