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LCpl_Jones #1 Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:11 PM

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tier 8 in this match maker, GG

 

really good job with 3/5/7 WG, amazing



lnfernaI #2 Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:12 PM

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You're late on the bandwagon.

Dundato #3 Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:28 PM

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nowt wrong with it

Karasu_Hidesuke #4 Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:37 PM

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'

Broke the deep lethargy within my head
  A heavy thunder, so that I upstarted,
  Like to a person who by force is wakened;

And round about I moved my rested eyes,
  Uprisen erect, and steadfastly I gazed,
  To recognise the place wherein I was.

True is it, that upon the verge I found me
  Of the abysmal valley dolorous,
  That gathers thunder of infinite ululations.

Obscure, profound it was, and nebulous,
  So that by fixing on its depths my sight
  Nothing whatever I discerned therein.

"Let us descend now into the blind world,"
  Began the Poet, pallid utterly;
  "I will be first, and thou shalt second be."

And I, who of his colour was aware,
  Said: "How shall I come, if thou art afraid,
  Who'rt wont to be a comfort to my fears?"

And he to me: "The anguish of the people
  Who are below here in my face depicts
  That pity which for terror thou hast taken.'

 

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1001/1001-h/1001-h.htm#CantoIV



WindSplitter1 #5 Posted 08 July 2018 - 12:00 AM

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View PostLCpl_Jones, on 07 July 2018 - 08:11 PM, said:

tier 8 in this match maker, GG

 

really good job with 3/5/7 WG, amazing

 



Element6 #6 Posted 08 July 2018 - 12:17 AM

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I was actually about to open a thread on this issue yesterday because I've had a really high percentage of pure T8 battles in the last few days and wondered if they changed something in the MM.

 

I guess not.



Robbie_T #7 Posted 08 July 2018 - 02:00 AM

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Tier 8 always wanna be top tier all the time (especially prem tier 8's)to rape stock tier 6 and 7.

But when they must face tier 10's in there prem tricked out tanks than its a problem.

Big deal work around it.

Did tier 8 all day and yeah all day long facing tier 9 and 10's.

Luckely i have a active clan 3 man platoon all tier 8's and go.

It was hard but we scraped a 50% winrate.

Nothing more fun than pull of a coordinated attack on higher tiers.

Ask that type 5  how he felt with 3 progettos surrounding him from all sides 

The only problem is the tier 8 them selfs for having to much balls or lacking of it or combined with no brain.

 

 

 

 


Edited by Robbie_T, 08 July 2018 - 02:02 AM.


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View PostRobbie_T, on 08 July 2018 - 02:00 AM, said:

Tier 8 always wanna be top tier all the time (especially prem tier 8's)to rape stock tier 6 and 7.

But when they must face tier 10's in there prem tricked out tanks than its a problem.

Big deal work around it.

Did tier 8 all day and yeah all day long facing tier 9 and 10's.

Luckely i have a active clan 3 man platoon all tier 8's and go.

It was hard but we scraped a 50% winrate.

Nothing more fun than pull of a coordinated attack on higher tiers.

Ask that type 5  how he felt with 3 progettos surrounding him from all sides 

The only problem is the tier 8 them selfs for having to much balls or lacking of it or combined with no brain.

 

 

 

 

 

Had a tier 9 game on Sand River in my mod.1 yesterday and went for the hill from south spawn. I had 2 other tier 8 ( Somua and STA ) and an E50 with me. We met the same amount of tier 8 tanks and they also had an E50. While we were trying to hang in there and do damage our E50 was like...

..leaving our Somua to fight the E50. I didn't see that at first because i was trying to get them from the other side which didn't really work out but at least i could kill one of them. I the meantime our E50 was doing this....

...instead of covering our Somua while he was on reload...so i had to turn around and try to buy a few seconds as a oneshot for the enemy E50.....

Then i realized our E50 was actually an effing 45%  :facepalm:

 

Playing tier 8 wouldn't be such a problem if you had players who actually knew what they are doing in the top tier tanks....as well as in every other tank. 



vasilinhorulezz #9 Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:38 AM

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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 08 July 2018 - 12:17 AM, said:

I was actually about to open a thread on this issue yesterday because I've had a really high percentage of pure T8 battles in the last few days and wondered if they changed something in the MM.

 

I guess not.

 

Yesterday I had 2 games in a row, top tier, 3/5/7.



Wintermute_1 #10 Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:54 AM

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View PostLCpl_Jones, on 07 July 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

tier 8 in this match maker, GG

 

really good job with 3/5/7 WG, amazing

 

When you take the most popular tier in the game and make it perma-bottom tier, you create the major factor behind the plummeting player numbers. 

Tom_Deekanarry #11 Posted 08 July 2018 - 10:11 AM

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Serious question, would limiting top tiers to lights and Mediums help the general discontent toward 3-5-7?

 

The biggest problem I see when bottom tier is the inability to cause damage to the top tier, or even higher tier heavies.


 

I played a game on Murokova or whatever it's called , the map with the railway down the middle and river/lake and hill on one side, I was using my Tiger 131, red team tier VI's were basically wiped out in the first 5 mins , I ended up trying to support a KV3 who had  a jap heavy and a T34 trying to fire on him, I fired 31 shots, hit 22 (including turret sides) and had ZERO penetrations (some of these were against Italian mediums as well it should be noted) HE did nothing and APCR did nothing, I'm not mobile enough to try and flank on that map as the angles were covered from second line, it became exasperating, a single critical, the two guys we were up against basically ignored me and kept at the KV3 until he died then just blasted me.


 

3-5-7 would probably work a lot better if you removed the top tier heavies.


Edited by Tom_Deekanarry, 08 July 2018 - 10:12 AM.


Karasu_Hidesuke #12 Posted 08 July 2018 - 10:30 AM

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View PostTom_Deekanarry, on 08 July 2018 - 09:11 AM, said:

Serious question, would limiting top tiers to lights and Mediums help the general discontent toward 3-5-7?

 

The biggest problem I see when bottom tier is the inability to cause damage to the top tier, or even higher tier heavies.


 

I played a game on Murokova or whatever it's called , the map with the railway down the middle and river/lake and hill on one side, I was using my Tiger 131, red team tier VI's were basically wiped out in the first 5 mins , I ended up trying to support a KV3 who had  a jap heavy and a T34 trying to fire on him, I fired 31 shots, hit 22 (including turret sides) and had ZERO penetrations (some of these were against Italian mediums as well it should be noted) HE did nothing and APCR did nothing, I'm not mobile enough to try and flank on that map as the angles were covered from second line, it became exasperating, a single critical, the two guys we were up against basically ignored me and kept at the KV3 until he died then just blasted me.


 

3-5-7 would probably work a lot better if you removed the top tier heavies.

 

IMHO LT balance is completely whacked, I always hate to run into higher tier LT's whatever I am playing. They are like miniTD's in this game, only much harder to hit, much harder to avoid and bloody lethal.

Hedgehog1963 #13 Posted 08 July 2018 - 12:35 PM

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View PostRobbie_T, on 08 July 2018 - 01:00 AM, said:

Tier 8 always wanna be top tier all the time (especially prem tier 8's)to rape stock tier 6 and 7.

But when they must face tier 10's in there prem tricked out tanks than its a problem.

Big deal work around it.

Did tier 8 all day and yeah all day long facing tier 9 and 10's.

Luckely i have a active clan 3 man platoon all tier 8's and go.

It was hard but we scraped a 50% winrate.

Nothing more fun than pull of a coordinated attack on higher tiers.

Ask that type 5  how he felt with 3 progettos surrounding him from all sides 

The only problem is the tier 8 them selfs for having to much balls or lacking of it or combined with no brain.

 

 

 

 

 

*their

Pattonizer #14 Posted 08 July 2018 - 01:02 PM

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Tier 8 against tier 10 is actually better than any other tier against +2.

Hiisi #15 Posted 08 July 2018 - 05:51 PM

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But still bad

Pattonizer #16 Posted 08 July 2018 - 06:31 PM

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But why would you play tier 10 if not being the top one against tier 8 and tier 9?

Erwin_Von_Braun #17 Posted 09 July 2018 - 08:42 AM

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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 07 July 2018 - 11:17 PM, said:

I was actually about to open a thread on this issue yesterday because I've had a really high percentage of pure T8 battles in the last few days and wondered if they changed something in the MM.

 

I guess not.

 

I was wondering this too - put it down to not many Tier X's in the mix, but that was just a guess.

View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 08 July 2018 - 08:38 AM, said:

 

Yesterday I had 2 games in a row, top tier, 3/5/7.

 

Same here - although not two in a row - that's witchcraft!



Nistyy #18 Posted 09 July 2018 - 11:33 AM

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At the weekend i was doing the "General Maintance" quests, but the tier VI-VII and tier VIII-X was a nightmare. 

On Saturday i have played 30 matches and only got 4 top tier of them.

On Sunday i have played about 40 and got 5 top tier.

I accept that i cant be top tier always, but only10-13%? Its literally zero, and not much fun non-stop playing 2 tier beind.

I am not complaining about my winrate because i am still at 50%, but its really annoying that I need to hide, avoid the tanks, cant play my way... 

 

WG really should improve the MM asap.



lampround #19 Posted 09 July 2018 - 11:39 AM

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My recent grinds at tier 8, Caernarnvon and O-HO, have been fun. Once you are top spec, and with a generous load-out of prem ammo in the Caer, i do not mind being bottom tier at all. If anything it is easier to get a half decent score due to fighting those higher tier tanks. Both have WR at 60%ish and both marked. I think it depends alot on the tank you drive though. It is crucial to stick to that one tank for a session though, so MM is kind with some top tier matches. If you keep swapping MM will keep chucking you in bottom tier. Hated indien panzer and TVP at tier 8 though.

Edited by lampround, 09 July 2018 - 11:41 AM.


Sirebellus #20 Posted 09 July 2018 - 11:44 AM

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My complaint about the Matchmaker is that it isn't consistent

I could accept 3-5-7 if my instances of being top or bottom tier worked out like that - for every 7 games I play as bottom tier in 3-5-7 I should be playing 3 games as top tier in 3-5-7

 

View PostNistyy, on 09 July 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

 

On Saturday i have played 30 matches and only got 4 top tier of them.

On Sunday i have played about 40 and got 5 top tier.

 

  So in this case as 9 out of 70 games were top tier, which would be okay if only 21 out of 70 were bottom tier -  but I am willing to bet that he faced T10 opponents a lot more times that that

 






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