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undutchable80 #1 Posted 10 July 2018 - 11:43 AM

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Hello tankers!

 

I finally compiled all the results from my previous polls on which tanks per tank class & tier are considered must-haves by you the community.

 

EDIT: As The_Georgian_One and Thuis001 point out correctly, the polls were never about which tanks per class and tier are the best / OP. Its about what non-premium tanks are must-haves according to you, because they are indeed iconic, fun, unique, etc. I guess that explains some of the poll results, because if I had asked which tanks per class and tier are the best, the results would have turned out differently methinks. Maybe next time. ;)

 

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My idea behind it all was that some players consider owning all (relevant) T10 tanks as the endgame, others view 3-marking all tanks as their endgame, or Ace-tanking all the tanks, etc etc. Ultimately, there is no endgame, except what we set for ourselves personally. So I started to wonder what the endgame is to me, and I must admit I dont have one. I am not good, and probably never will be, so 3-marking everything is a bridge too far, as well as reaching unicum status. So, my idea behind the question & polls was maybe to give me some inspiration what tank lines / specific tanks to grind for, whether from a historical perspective, for personal missions, uniqueness etc and make that (part of) my goals in the game. And who knows, maybe I will have inspired some of you in a same fashion, especially some of you new(er) players who might wonder: " what nation / line do I grind (next)". So thank you all who cast your vote!

 

Some observations from the (albeit limited data) poll:

- Surprised by the absence of Japanese heavies in the higher tiers.

- Soviet (IS) & UK HT line from Tier 8 and up scored very well

- "none" was the top vote for all SPG polls, but the best line if you "have to" go arty is the US line

- US & Soviet TDs and French LTs scored well over all the tiers

 

What do you guys think?

 

In case anybody wants to look back on the votes:
Tier 10: http://forum.worldof...er-class-tier-x
Tier 9: http://forum.worldof...r-class-tier-ix
Tier 8: http://forum.worldof...class-tier-viii
Tier 7: http://forum.worldof...-class-tier-vii
Tier 6: http://forum.worldof...r-class-tier-vi
Tier 5: http://forum.worldof...er-class-tier-v
Tier 4: http://forum.worldof...r-class-tier-iv

 


Edited by undutchable80, 11 July 2018 - 07:16 AM.


Xandania #2 Posted 10 July 2018 - 11:53 AM

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Thank you for all your work on this.

 

Guess the Derpzillas do have their horrid mobility as their major drawback - as well as a long reload ;)

No surprise with the Heavies otherwise, as both lines you named are well represented ingame.

 

WHat surprised me are the high marks for french lights. Even the heavily nerfed ELC managed to get the most votes.  - also quite surprising that only two of the CHinese lights made it into the ranking positions  - although, they migh be considered mediums as well ^^



Bora_BOOM #3 Posted 10 July 2018 - 02:35 PM

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Nice work.

Judging by the list I am missing only a few tanks: Luchs, Matilda, Hellcat and T30.

Grind is real on 100 LT and 53/55, both on tier lower tanks. So soon its only 4 that I still need to get...

:medal:

And I did not mention GW Panther, no way I will play more arta than I have to. So, no I am not "missing" that one. :B



Keyanu #4 Posted 10 July 2018 - 02:57 PM

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Looking at the stats, it looks like obj. 430 is better than the T-54 or have I got that wrong?

Jamadeus #5 Posted 10 July 2018 - 03:04 PM

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Thanks for that, very interesting.


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Unless goal is like mine; having all except clickers in garage tier V and up...with each having its own crew/equipment/perm cammo.., I'd recommend just to keep what you actually enjoy playing! :playing:

 

My "excuse" is I love tanks...great fun...and this game is the only real contender for supplying my addiction.

 

This also being the reason I've been a bit salty and sour lately....going all grumpy and #walletclosed.  If I didn't care I guess life would be easier....

 

Imagine if WG had gathered a group of the best competitive dedicated players and LISTENED to their feedback on balancing, maps, features...perhaps even smacked their sales department over their fingers and told them to behave....and then followed up on the feedback!

 

Pretty sure I'd just activate a lifelong subscription asap then :coin:..instead of being a sour belligerent unhappy capitalist western pig with money to spend without doing it because #walletclosed! :(



Rooikat_ZA #7 Posted 10 July 2018 - 03:23 PM

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Awesome work!

 

Just surprised the German Heavies didn't feature for tier 5 and 6. The VK30.01(H) and VK36.01(H) are deadly tanks with vents, rammer, optics and the right gun mounted 7,5/5,5cm Waffe. The gun might be low on damage but for tier 5/6 135d is fairly decent considering it's firing shots with 157pen/221pen every 3.5 seconds.

 

Loved these 2 tanks and super accurate, deadly gun.



Simeon85 #8 Posted 10 July 2018 - 03:23 PM

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View Postundutchable80, on 10 July 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

- "none" was the top vote for all SPG polls, but the best line if you "have to" go arty is the US line

 

 

:B:D

 

Anyway, interesting results, the Sh*tbarn being in there surprises me as does the 103B. 



Karasu_Hidesuke #9 Posted 10 July 2018 - 05:51 PM

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View PostKeyanu, on 10 July 2018 - 01:57 PM, said:

Looking at the stats, it looks like obj. 430 is better than the T-54 or have I got that wrong?

 

Not sure if I would call it better, but different for sure.

 

@OP Cheers!:great:



leggasiini #10 Posted 10 July 2018 - 06:05 PM

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Type 5 did get 4th, though. 5A and Super Conqueror are both tanks that are also really powerful and more flexible than the Type, and IS-7 is just there as for many its the first (and sometimes the only) tier 10. Type is also expensive to play - if the premium HE was standard, I'm pretty sure it would be way more popular. 

 

Some of the results were pretty surprising, have to admit. Comet being among the top is the biggest one for me, as well as Batchat 25t being above the Object 140 and M48A5.



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Disagree with 95% of this myself, but either way alot of work so good job. 

Thuis001 #12 Posted 10 July 2018 - 07:38 PM

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Eh, how does the AMX 12t win by a 10> margin, but still be in second place?

 

View PostSimeon85, on 10 July 2018 - 03:23 PM, said:

 

:B:D

 

Anyway, interesting results, the Sh*tbarn being in there surprises me as does the 103B. 

The Sh*tbarn being in there is about as surprising as the KV-2 being the tier VI HT number 1. While it's unreliable it has HUGE potential and can 1-shot most tanks it meets, thus it's generally something people would consider a must have. The tanks in this list don't have to be particularly good, just fun to play. Some are both fun and good, others are just fun.


 

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The ever ongoing debate which is the better tier 7 medium: the T20 or Comet. Tie. Nice. :)



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View Postundutchable80, on 10 July 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

Hello tankers!

 

I finally compiled all the results from my previous polls on which tanks per tank class & tier are considered must-haves by you the community.

 

Posted Image

 

My idea behind it all was that some players consider owning all (relevant) T10 tanks as the endgame, others view 3-marking all tanks as their endgame, or Ace-tanking all the tanks, etc etc. Ultimately, there is no endgame, except what we set for ourselves personally. So I started to wonder what the endgame is to me, and I must admit I dont have one. I am not good, and probably never will be, so 3-marking everything is a bridge too far, as well as reaching unicum status. So, my idea behind the question & polls was maybe to give me some inspiration what tank lines / specific tanks to grind for, whether from a historical perspective, for personal missions, uniqueness etc and make that (part of) my goals in the game. And who knows, maybe I will have inspired some of you in a same fashion, especially some of you new(er) players who might wonder: " what nation / line do I grind (next)". So thank you all who cast your vote!

 

Some observations from the (albeit limited data) poll:

- Surprised by the absence of Japanese heavies in the higher tiers.

- Soviet (IS) & UK HT line from Tier 8 and up scored very well

- "none" was the top vote for all SPG polls, but the best line if you "have to" go arty is the US line

- US & Soviet TDs and French LTs scored well over all the tiers

 

What do you guys think?

 

In case anybody wants to look back on the votes:
Tier 10: http://forum.worldof...er-class-tier-x
Tier 9: http://forum.worldof...r-class-tier-ix
Tier 8: http://forum.worldof...class-tier-viii
Tier 7: http://forum.worldof...-class-tier-vii
Tier 6: http://forum.worldof...r-class-tier-vi
Tier 5: http://forum.worldof...er-class-tier-v
Tier 4: http://forum.worldof...r-class-tier-iv

 

 



The_Georgian_One #15 Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:10 PM

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I don't think the voting was 'what is the best tank at each tier', it's what is a must have tank. Some of them are must have, cause they are iconic, not cause they are particularly good.

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View Postundutchable80, on 10 July 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

 

Thanks for all the work and effort, OP.

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Great work, OP! This is a very interesting thread that will certainly help the newer players with regards to which tanks are worth the grinds, and which ones are actually fun. Also great to have a good list of "recommended" tanks for myself, especially since it's up to date and the community contributed:)



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View Postundutchable80, on 10 July 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

Hello tankers!

 

I finally compiled all the results from my previous polls on which tanks per tank class & tier are considered must-haves by you the community.

 

EDIT: As The_Georgian_One and Thuis001 point out correctly, the polls were never about which tanks per class and tier are the best / OP. Its about what non-premium tanks are must-haves according to you, because they are indeed iconic, fun, unique, etc. I guess that explains some of the poll results, because if I had asked which tanks per class and tier are the best, the results would have turned out differently methinks. Maybe next time. ;)

 

Posted Image

 

My idea behind it all was that some players consider owning all (relevant) T10 tanks as the endgame, others view 3-marking all tanks as their endgame, or Ace-tanking all the tanks, etc etc. Ultimately, there is no endgame, except what we set for ourselves personally. So I started to wonder what the endgame is to me, and I must admit I dont have one. I am not good, and probably never will be, so 3-marking everything is a bridge too far, as well as reaching unicum status. So, my idea behind the question & polls was maybe to give me some inspiration what tank lines / specific tanks to grind for, whether from a historical perspective, for personal missions, uniqueness etc and make that (part of) my goals in the game. And who knows, maybe I will have inspired some of you in a same fashion, especially some of you new(er) players who might wonder: " what nation / line do I grind (next)". So thank you all who cast your vote!

 

Some observations from the (albeit limited data) poll:

- Surprised by the absence of Japanese heavies in the higher tiers.

- Soviet (IS) & UK HT line from Tier 8 and up scored very well

- "none" was the top vote for all SPG polls, but the best line if you "have to" go arty is the US line

- US & Soviet TDs and French LTs scored well over all the tiers

 

What do you guys think?

 

In case anybody wants to look back on the votes:
Tier 10: http://forum.worldof...er-class-tier-x
Tier 9: http://forum.worldof...r-class-tier-ix
Tier 8: http://forum.worldof...class-tier-viii
Tier 7: http://forum.worldof...-class-tier-vii
Tier 6: http://forum.worldof...r-class-tier-vi
Tier 5: http://forum.worldof...er-class-tier-v
Tier 4: http://forum.worldof...r-class-tier-iv

 

 


Edited by TANKOPPRESSION, 11 July 2018 - 08:17 AM.


undutchable80 #19 Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:40 AM

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View PostXandania, on 10 July 2018 - 11:53 AM, said:

WHat surprised me are the high marks for french lights. Even the heavily nerfed ELC managed to get the most votes.  - also quite surprising that only two of the CHinese lights made it into the ranking positions  - although, they migh be considered mediums as well ^^

The ELC finishing top dog surprised me too, maybe its part of the nostalgia people have for it. Like owning a racecar from the 60's that doesnt keep up with todays racecars but still holds that special place in people hearts and becomes part of the collector's items cult. What also surprised me was the absence of the Chaffee, but I guess the nerfhammer hit that tank way way too hard...?

 

View PostBora_BOOM, on 10 July 2018 - 02:35 PM, said:

Nice work.

Judging by the list I am missing only a few tanks: Luchs, Matilda, Hellcat and T30.

Grind is real on 100 LT and 53/55, both on tier lower tanks. So soon its only 4 that I still need to get...

:medal:

And I did not mention GW Panther, no way I will play more arta than I have to. So, no I am not "missing" that one. :B

I am almost exactly the other way around! I own the Luchs, Matilda and Hellcat already and grinding my way to the T30 (and T95) as well as the LT100 and 53/55. For me too that is the only arty line I am going to grind since I expect the M44, M40/43 and the 53/55 to be enough for the personal missions. 

 

View PostSimeon85, on 10 July 2018 - 03:23 PM, said:

 

:B:D

 

Anyway, interesting results, the Sh*tbarn being in there surprises me as does the 103B. 

Well, it maybe isnt the best tier X TD, but it IS iconic in its own right as well as fun to those who own it I guess (my Primo Victoria crew that got deleted from full health by one the other day didnt have a good time though ;)). Something about derping that players associate with fun I guess (looking at KV-2 being top dog, T49 finishing second etc), which is why the absence of the Jap Heavies still mystifies me...

 

View PostThuis001, on 10 July 2018 - 07:38 PM, said:

Eh, how does the AMX 12t win by a 10> margin, but still be in second place?

Because the voting option "none" actually won, so the voters  basically said no Tier 6 LT is considered a must-have, but if you still want at least one Tier 6 LT in your garage than the AMX 12t was the top finisher and received more than 10 votes difference than the T37 which finished third in the poll.

 

View PostPaul_Kouadio, on 11 July 2018 - 08:00 AM, said:

Great work, OP! This is a very interesting thread that will certainly help the newer players with regards to which tanks are worth the grinds, and which ones are actually fun. Also great to have a good list of "recommended" tanks for myself, especially since it's up to date and the community contributed:)

 

Thanks! I might even redo the whole thing in a few months, since someone pointed out correctly to me that I should have allowed you to vote for any and all tanks you considered must-haves, and not limited your votes to 1 or 2 per class, since some classes per tiers might have more than 1-2 tanks that qualify. Afterwards compile the top three and allow you to vote for one. Might make a more representative result? I will have a think on it.  Anyway, thanks for the positive feedback guys! :honoring: I think I will drop a line to this post in the Newcomer's Forum. :B
 
 

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 10 July 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

The ever ongoing debate which is the better tier 7 medium: the T20 or Comet. Tie. Nice. :)
 

 

Really? T20 surely, with the current meta both these tanks see tier8 and 9 almost every battle so there's just no arguing with the T20's 90mm boasting 240 alpha and 243 APCR pen. It's basically a poorer handling version of the Hellcats gun(also on the tier6 Heavy). T90 also has better view range, top speed and reverse speed, no contest imo. I like the Comet but it's a bit out of it's depth at tier7 with that sappy 140 alpha and 208 APCR pen, just an expensive waste of time. I'd actually rate the Leo the better option for a tier7 pew pew gun over the Comet with that amazing 1.6 second aim time STRV 74 gun... plus you can always fit the Leo with that big alpha donkey gun if you fancy an up close and personal sort of slugger. Panther is also a better pew pew tank and it's standard rounds have about same pen as the the Comets premium ammo so... meh to the Comet, I like it, but let's not make it "king" of tier7 meds, it aint! 






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