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Keyanu #1 Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:24 AM

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I don't know which to get, if I do a straight comparison it looks like the Obj. 430 is the better tank however, when viewing that thread (which I cannot find atm) it seems the T-54 is better/more popular.

 

What do you lot think? Are there hidden stats I am not aware of?



JocMeister #2 Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:35 AM

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I have played the T-54 a lot more than the 430 so I might be a bit biased. But I think the T-54 is a lot a better in the current meta/MM simple because of the 330 HEAT Pen and better gun handling. 430 is stuck with the 270 APCR which will do absolutely nothing against the more recent retarded additions to the game. 

 

I often find myself struggling to find positions/plays in the 430 while in the T-54 I can do whatever I want. IMO the T-54 is still the best T9 MT as long as you are willing to use that HEAT. 



AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #3 Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:42 AM

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430U best heavy tank ,i am grinding it now i watched a lot of replays it can carry a lot survivability is amazing 

who cares about t9 there is no use to them .



Bora_BOOM #4 Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:56 AM

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Can’t help you much cause I don’t have 430 yet, 45k short and I am grinding towards it. Will probably reach it over the weekend.

I do have a heaT-54, its great cause of the "obvious reason".

Other question that you would ask yourself is what do you want after it? Object 140 or the OPject 430U ...

 

Edit:

430 is "fully upgraded" the moment you unlock it.

Also, T-44 is great, so play for both (t8 though, but nvm).


Edited by Bora_BOOM, 11 July 2018 - 09:59 AM.


Karasu_Hidesuke #5 Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:57 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 11 July 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

430U best heavy tank ,i am grinding it now i watched a lot of replays it can carry a lot survivability is amazing 

who cares about t9 there is no use to them .

 

Meant to say I agree with ^this. I have researched the 430U but haven't bought it yet for.. reasons..

 

I have both, and as others have pointed out the T-54 has better gun stats, the 430 has armor. The problem with the 430 IMO is that if you get into a match against tier X's, your gun will struggle and the armor won't hold. It very much depends on what your long term plans are, whether you intend to play regularly at tier 9 or just grind your way through to X.

 

Nowadays both lines open up with  te T-44 so you can research and grind them side by side.


Edited by Browarszky, 11 July 2018 - 10:21 AM.


DuncaN_101 #6 Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:27 AM

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Both.

I haven't played the 430 as a tier 9 but when it was T10 I loved it. (oke I sucked in all 3 those hovermeds but that not the tanks fault)

T54 is the classic ruski medium and that alone makes it worth playing + the 140 is still a very capable med.

So there is really no bad choice here

JocMeister #7 Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:27 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 11 July 2018 - 09:42 AM, said:

430U best heavy tank ,i am grinding it now i watched a lot of replays it can carry a lot survivability is amazing 

who cares about t9 there is no use to them .

 

Eh, Tier 9 is possible one of the best and most fun tiers to play right now.  At worst you will see 5 TX abominations. 



Keyanu #8 Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:31 AM

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Don't mind using the HEAT as I have other tanks to make up the creds and I feel the gun is more important than the armor as meds get penned my most things anyway. So it looks like T-54 is the way to go.

 

Thanks guys!



MeNoobTank #9 Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:19 AM

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Right now I prefer the 430 because I have full modules on it. My T-54 still lack top gun so I struggle with 190 pen and 247 prem pen.

 

Obj 430 has better pen with regular rounds than T-54's top gun (238 vs 201/219) and I kinda like it's playstyle. At first I hated it because it plays nothing like the T-44 but once you get used to it it's a beast.



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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 11 July 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

430U best heavy tank ,i am grinding it now i watched a lot of replays it can carry a lot survivability is amazing 

who cares about t9 there is no use to them .

 

Tier 9 is about the best tier now considering WG have completely wrecked Tier 8 and 10.

Karasu_Hidesuke #11 Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:50 AM

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 11 July 2018 - 10:19 AM, said:

Right now I prefer the 430 because I have full modules on it. My T-54 still lack top gun so I struggle with 190 pen and 247 prem pen.

 

Obj 430 has better pen with regular rounds than T-54's top gun (238 vs 201/219) and I kinda like it's playstyle. At first I hated it because it plays nothing like the T-44 but once you get used to it it's a beast.

 

It's really hard to say, at least for me. The T-54 has a better gun, but less AP pen, but then again superior gold ammo. The AP ammo costs on the 430 is lower and that can be a factor in terms of economy. The armor thickness seems comparable but in practice it feels like the 430 can bounce more often.

 

https://tanks.gg/compare/obj-430?t=t-54_41111c



Evilier_than_Skeletor #12 Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:15 PM

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T-54 is def more fun to play.

Warzey #13 Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:34 PM

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I would say that 430 is definitely a better pick for more aggressive players. The only major downside are 270 pen APCR round, that being said I personally never really felt like I'm missing those 330 pen HEAT rounds while I was grinding 430. 

The biggest advantage of 430 is that it practically comes fully upgraded, on the other hand with T-54 people need to grind with god awful 190 pen gun.






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