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Obj 430 II - how to be able to do anything in it?


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vixu #1 Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:09 AM

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I am struggling with understanding this tank. Long time ago I was able to be average with it. After the latest tech tree reshuffling I had to pick it up again and now I am really struggling.

No armor, no gun depression, lousy gun w/o prem rounds, limited turret, no armor.... 

What should I do with this pile of scrap metal on the battlefield?

Kurat666 #2 Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:27 AM

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I grinded it through for OBJ 430. It was OK, but overall still worse than t54. Now I started with the rebalanced one. I quite like it, but its still average. I can handle the gun depression, I try not to get hit - it works well. compared to t54 it has no advantages - but one big disadvantage - limited turret traverse. That is really annoying. I am used to be often in sniper view while traversing the hull - and it throws the aim to god-knows-where. I play it as a medium range support - gun is bad for sniping, and the armor and limited turret traverse will *edited* you in close combat,

 

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Edited by akataMM, 18 July 2018 - 10:27 AM.


tank276 #3 Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:28 AM

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The gun is not exactly lousy, it is pretty decent.

I try to play it as a TD, only if I am still alive at late game, I go hunting low health targets.

But yeah, it is far from stellar, most other t9 meds are better.



TsundereWaffle #4 Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:30 AM

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Lousy gun? Do you by any chance still use the stock gun? Because the stock gun is the worse option now instead of previously being the better gun

vixu #5 Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:39 PM

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yes. I am still using the stock gun. perhaps Is hould switch. But it is still only a part of the problem. Most of the time I cannot even aim at the enemy, w/o exposing myself to be ripped into peices.

Mr_Burrows #6 Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:58 PM

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Hated it. ´nuff said. 

shikaka9 #7 Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:38 PM

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it was bad before balancing, it is worse after ... get "normally turreted" obj430 and forget this anomally

Mannanan #8 Posted 11 July 2018 - 02:09 PM

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Take TD gameplay, remove half of positions where you can't hide behind a bush and shoot because of a surface slope and pray your team is good enough to win without you.

Edited by Mannanan, 11 July 2018 - 03:22 PM.


adameitas #9 Posted 11 July 2018 - 02:39 PM

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from one of the most unique tanks 430 became simply the worse t9 medium. Sadly i didint finish k-91 grind on time.. 

TsundereWaffle #10 Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:24 PM

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View Postvixu, on 11 July 2018 - 01:39 PM, said:

yes. I am still using the stock gun. perhaps Is hould switch. But it is still only a part of the problem. Most of the time I cannot even aim at the enemy, w/o exposing myself to be ripped into peices.

 

yeah, the top gun is much better, it gets better dpm, gunnhandling and pen

Bigtime_Alarm #11 Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:27 PM

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Most of the time I cannot even aim at the enemy, w/o exposing myself to be ripped into peices

 

errrr isnt that fairly normal? unless you learned to shoot through rocks and houses



vixu #12 Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:30 PM

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View PostBigtime_Alarm, on 11 July 2018 - 08:27 PM, said:

Most of the time I cannot even aim at the enemy, w/o exposing myself to be ripped into peices

 

errrr isnt that fairly normal? unless you learned to shoot through rocks and houses

 

Well... not rly...

typically you can show just a bit of yourself using terrain or other cover for your advantage. With this pice of scrap metal you have to pretty much show all of yourself everywhere except a few spots on the map. 

On top of that... seems that this tank has a particular boon of being part of the team that cannot carry.




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