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Mr_Burrows #1 Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:56 PM

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I just have to vent for a wee bit. If you own the EVEN, then you know. If you do not own it, then you have no idea. IN the latter case, let me tell you: 

If driving over café tables and chairs, the EVEN slows down - almost grinds to a halt! 

This is sheer idiocy. I know WG do not listen any more, it is all about the money nowadays, but I just had to vent. 

 

And to prove my point, here is the replay: http://wotreplays.eu...18dd40be3bcc614

Look at the beginning of the battle, when I go ´round my first corner. 

 

"Barney, the enemy is mounting tanks! What to do?" 

"`Tis cool matey, we will stop them by piling some IKEA furniture in the road." 

 

 



baribal_80 #2 Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:18 PM

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View PostMr_Burrows, on 11 July 2018 - 11:56 AM, said:

I just have to vent for a wee bit. If you own the EVEN, then you know. If you do not own it, then you have no idea. IN the latter case, let me tell you: 

If driving over café tables and chairs, the EVEN slows down - almost grinds to a halt! 

This is sheer idiocy. I know WG do not listen any more, it is all about the money nowadays, but I just had to vent. 

 

And to prove my point, here is the replay: http://wotreplays.eu...18dd40be3bcc614

Look at the beginning of the battle, when I go ´round my first corner. 

 

"Barney, the enemy is mounting tanks! What to do?" 

"`Tis cool matey, we will stop them by piling some IKEA furniture in the road." 

 

 

 

Yeah slowing down because someone farted in a tank in front of you is annoying but they'd have to change weight of the even for it to behave differently so yeah the only other option is buffing mobility to 28-30hp/t

Murro_the_One #3 Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:19 PM

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any tank which is light have troubles when driving over tables

german spic or hwk for instance

dont need to see the replay to know it

 

so?



Search_Warrant #4 Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:19 PM

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I know.. the food/bia doesent do much. it seriously needs an acceleration buff to counter the terrible physics when it touches an object. its far too sluggish for a tank with only 900hp. mobility is literally all it has to survive. doesent even have hitpoints.

Edited by Search_Warrant, 11 July 2018 - 01:20 PM.


Enforcer1975 #5 Posted 11 July 2018 - 02:52 PM

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It also needs a gun handling buff and not only an engine buff. If you could make those 3 shots you have count it doesn't need a bigger clip since 4 shots in a clip is just as useless when you can't hit crap with it either. 

And it also needs it's turret modeled like the other french lights. I ammoracked one yesterday and was looking for the turret but it was still attached to the hull. 


Edited by Enforcer1975, 11 July 2018 - 02:55 PM.


Cobra6 #6 Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:00 PM

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It needs a bit more engine power so the P/w is up to light tank standards.

 

More importantly though it needs competitive DPM and gun handling over mobility.

 

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Steel_Patriot #7 Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:27 PM

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Best is all the barbed wire  mid field  on Fishermans Bay  , it acts like fly paper.if your unlucky enough to forget about it and get chased through it.

arthurwellsley #8 Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:51 PM

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The ELC EVEN 90 needs some serious buffing.

 

(a) it has the dpm of a tier VI tank, when it is two tiers higher. 1,152 (compared to B-C 12t at 1,595, T-92 at 2,085 and M41 90GF at 2,275) Suggested buff to 1,375. Still worse than the French tech tree equivalent, but better than now. Buff the inter-clip from 2.50 to 2.25 (the B-C 12t is at 2.00). Alter the magazine re-load time to arrive at 1,375.

 

(b) The aim time is 2.78. The B-C 12t is 2.21. Buff the ELC EVEN 90 to 2.49. The dispersion values for the moving, tank traverse and turret traverse are EVEN 90 = 0.18, 0.18, and 0.15. The same figures for the tech tree B-C 12t are 0.13, 0.13, and 0.12. I suggest buff dispersion on the EVEN 90 to 0.165, 0.165, and 0.135. Still not as good as the tech tree equivalent, but better than it presently is.

 

(c.) Speed or rather the lack of it. Actually the top speed is fine for the EVEN 90, it's neutered by the way that it bleeds speed from hitting things, or terrain. Interestingly the soft stats for terrain resistances are precisely the same as the B-C 12t. The B-C 12t weighs 12,000 kg, and has a power of 400hp to give a power to weight ration of 33.33. The EVEN 90 is at 160hp with a weight of 6,700 to give a power to weight ratio of 23.88. I would suggest buffing the power to 190hp which would give a power to weight ration of 28.35. Still not as good as the tech tree model, but an improvement. In comparison the T92 has a power to weight ration of 35.32, while the M41 90GF is 21.28. The AMX 13 57GF one tier below has worse power to weight ratio, but better soft stats on resistances than the EVEN 90.

 

I would suggest that the buffs on dpm, gun handling, and power to weight to a level below the B-C 12t (but not as far below the tech tree model as it presently stands) would make the EVEN 90 more sellable. Because at the present moment you need to be something of a masochist to want to own it. The AMX 13 57 is tier for tier a better crew trainer and more worth the money.


Edited by arthurwellsley, 11 July 2018 - 03:56 PM.


Mr_Burrows #9 Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:52 PM

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View PostSteel_Patriot, on 11 July 2018 - 03:27 PM, said:

Best is all the barbed wire  mid field  on Fishermans Bay  , it acts like fly paper.if your unlucky enough to forget about it and get chased through it.

 

...fences on both sides of Overlord... 

Enforcer1975 #10 Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:03 PM

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View PostMr_Burrows, on 11 July 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

 

...fences on both sides of Overlord... 

 

...any obstacle...

Mr_Burrows #11 Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:05 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 11 July 2018 - 04:03 PM, said:

 

...any obstacle...

 

Yeah. But my point is to explain to those that does not own one, that even a hedge makes this thing slow down to a point where an IS-7 seems nimble. 

Thrael7 #12 Posted 11 July 2018 - 07:15 PM

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Honestly, thanks for the info. I was impressed by how difficult it was to hit one in Frontline.

So small and fast it gave ppl headaches trying to lead the shot.

Apart from that I 've watched BigBlackSoul play it on twitch and he did wonders in randoms.

I 'm not that good but still I was tempted to buy it at some point.

Thanks again.


Edited by Thrael7, 11 July 2018 - 07:16 PM.


pudelikael #13 Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:33 PM

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View PostMr_Burrows, on 11 July 2018 - 12:56 PM, said:

I just have to vent for a wee bit. If you own the EVEN, then you know. If you do not own it, then you have no idea. IN the latter case, let me tell you: 

If driving over café tables and chairs, the EVEN slows down - almost grinds to a halt! 

This is sheer idiocy. I know WG do not listen any more, it is all about the money nowadays, but I just had to vent. 

 

And to prove my point, here is the replay: http://wotreplays.eu...18dd40be3bcc614

Look at the beginning of the battle, when I go ´round my first corner. 

 

"Barney, the enemy is mounting tanks! What to do?" 

"`Tis cool matey, we will stop them by piling some IKEA furniture in the road." 

 

 

 

use camonet, optic and binos. just spot.

Jumping_TurtIe #14 Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:42 PM

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View PostMr_Burrows, on 11 July 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

 

...fences on both sides of Overlord... 

 

Just go beach ...




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