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Erwin_Von_Braun #41 Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:37 PM

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View PostLes_chars_gris, on 11 July 2018 - 07:34 PM, said:

 

Coming from someone who played over 1200 games in the Bert ?

 

:P

 

But, it's ok, I still love you, muahhhhh !

 

What does my liking arty have to do with your pettiness?

uglycousin #42 Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:55 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 11 July 2018 - 05:10 PM, said:

Just dont play low tiers. Let the newcomers suffer and leave the game. 

 

Wicked smaht idea, WG. Wicked smaht.

 

I mean ... what can go wrong, right? Right?

 

View Postxx984, on 11 July 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

Who honestly gives a EDIT? People will do afew games init, realise arta is terrible to play and play against and get bored of it. And the hardcore canc arty players will soon realise that its a not that great

 

I think people who are grinding lower tiers, or who do not enjoy playing high tiers will give a damn. :)

 

Anyway, this weekend one should stay away of anything low tier.


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Shuddnobetta #43 Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:05 PM

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View Postxx984, on 11 July 2018 - 03:11 PM, said:

Who honestly gives a sh*t? People will do afew games init, realise arta is terrible to play and play against and get bored of it. And the hardcore canc arty players will soon realise that its a not that great

 

You are completely wrong there fella.... This is one of the most noob friendly pieces of pap out there.... I regularly see it hitting top spot in damage and exp...... best thing to do it buy one.
 

View PostStrappster, on 11 July 2018 - 06:52 PM, said:

 

Seriously, you're that scared of them?! :amazed:

 

Even before the arty changes, their HE hardly penned anything except paper tanks like the T67 and while they can reload quickly, the accuracy means you're spamming most shells into the scenery no matter how long you aim (and I play mine with a BiA crew and food). The most OP thing about them is the 400m base view range; other than that they're not very different from every other mid-tier arty using the first gun.

If they were that crap..........How do they regularly hit top spot in damage and exp?......Also.......if they were so crap...why would the forum be up in arms about them being "on sale" again?

 

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Pansenmann #44 Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:19 PM

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View PostShuddnobetta, on 11 July 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

If they were that crap..........How do they regularly hit top spot in damage and exp?......Also.......if they were so crap...why would the forum be up in arms about them being "on sale" again?

 

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it's crap, because of matchmaking.

 

if arty gets

top of dmg the rest of the teams suck.


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View PostCobra6, on 11 July 2018 - 03:09 PM, said:

Don't worry, it will be so filthily expensive that you won't see a big influx of them on the battlefield anyway. Expect 30EUR+ packages minimum.

 

Cobra 6

 

This^^

 

Same as E 25.

People complained about it and it did a number on the MM queue. For about 2 weeks. People complained but eventually the new E 25 drivers realized it wasn't the kemp booj/dab dat 2 key & win kinda tank and parked it in the hall of fame of their garage.



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View PostPansenmann, on 11 July 2018 - 09:19 PM, said:

 

it's crap, because of matchmaking.

 

if arty gets

top of dmg the rest of the teams suck.

Listen guy... I created an account to play just arty..... And at the moment i'm Tier 4 T82 HMC..... and in all honesty the better the team, the further up the list I get... If the team is pap I very rarely get good marks because there is No spotting or they leave a flank open and a light tank kills us..... Having said that, most times i see a LEFe...... they are top dog...



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I have the leFH and I can honestly say it's only good against EDIT.

 

If you're a half decent player the enemy leFH won't bother you because you'll know how to avoid and rape it.

 

The only reason it is so strong is because tier 5 is full of vegetables 


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View PostShuddnobetta, on 11 July 2018 - 09:09 PM, said:

If they were that crap..........How do they regularly hit top spot in damage and exp?......Also.......if they were so crap...why would the forum be up in arms about them being "on sale" again?

 

Get down you're hole where you belong.....Stupid person....

 

Given that arty gifts 50% of its xp to the spotter, if an arty finishes above you then you didn't play very well. I've topped the team in arty in all tiers up to 9 (because I haven't finished a grind yet) and I've seen some terrible teams.

 

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View PostStrappster, on 11 July 2018 - 10:00 PM, said:

 

Given that arty gifts 50% of its xp to the spotter, if an arty finishes above you then you didn't play very well. I've topped the team in arty in all tiers up to 9 (because I haven't finished a grind yet) and I've seen some terrible teams.

 

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Bashing me "EDIT" don't answer why the forum is up in arms about this potentially being back on sale..... Does it?

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 12 July 2018 - 12:10 AM, said:

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I agree with you on these parts. I find this kind of vote and the selection of tanks horrible. I personally voted for Type 62 the second I saw that because I thought it would be the least terrible tank out of those 4 to hit the MM. 

 

But it surely won't be as bad as most people here let understand. Tier 5 is already filled with very good artys. Bishop will wreck you behind houses and is miles more accurate than any other arty except for FV304 and Crusader SP (stock). Grille's dmg shits on LefH and the rate of fire isn't that bad either. 

 

The LefH view range is huge though, but I don't think that itself actually makes the tank OP. At least I've rarely gotten much benefit out of it. 


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View PostShuddnobetta, on 11 July 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

If they were that crap..........How do they regularly hit top spot in damage and exp?

That will be down to the WoT playerbase.



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View PostHomer_J, on 11 July 2018 - 10:41 PM, said:

That will be down to the WoT playerbase.

 

And that is my problem because of...........what exactly?......Fact is (given the WOT playerbase) these artillery pieces regularly outperform the "normal" tanks suggests they are the Obj 268v4 of the arty world....

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Luckily they lack splash or stun. So as with the last time they sold it. Don't stand still, or don't play anything that faces tier 5. 

 

 

But tbh... the last few times its been on sale. It's population has not exploded that badly that you see 6 of them in each game, or even one every single game. But you still see more of them. And then it was more old timers taking their out, then new owners playing it. It will be annoying. But I doubt it will be E25 sale during Xmas 2016 annoying for me to freak out about it... yet.  



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View PostShuddnobetta, on 11 July 2018 - 11:51 PM, said:

 

Fact is (given the WOT playerbase) these artillery pieces regularly outperform the "normal" tanks 

You could have something which could only do damage by ramming and it would regularly outperform some teams in WoT, especially at low tiers.



TungstenHitman #55 Posted 12 July 2018 - 12:05 AM

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Ya but that's silly to boycott things in a game because 1. barely any will join that movement 2. nobody really gives a f*** 3. The problems in a game are not for players to resolve it's the developers, no other way.

 

So I don't have a problem with players that use any tanks in this game, they are there to be used so why not. My gripe would be with the inclusion of certain tanks and attributes of certain tanks WG blatantly knew stepped outside the boundaries of what made tanks somewhat balanced to within their allocated tiers and classes etc. So I wouldn't just say "Remove arty!" or "f** the Bobject!!" or "Type 5 is cancer!" there are plenty of OP or broken things in this game and it's up to WG to fix them, nobody else.

 

Players will play any tank or class that's available, the one's they prefer and for different reasons, that's just how ppl are we all like and dislike different things. The solution is not to rage at players it's simply to remove these options from the game, and so remove them from these players. Then those players will either leave the game or more likely simply play a different class or different tank etc. If there was some other class of tank in this game players would also play that, regardless of how skillful or no skill it was, simply because they will like it more than another class, like.. I don't know lets say a mine laying tank class was added to this game whereby you get 3 mines and can race around with high camo a drop a mine where you think tanks will come pass over. Then when a mine is detonated, a new one spawns in your tank over time. You will get players loving that, and will play that. Would that be annoying as sh*t to other players that would find that dull and zero skill? Yes, so it's up to the game devs to address these things, not us nor blame players for using what options are available.


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View PostShuddnobetta, on 11 July 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

Bashing me "EDIT" don't answer why the forum is up in arms about this potentially being back on sale..... Does it?

 

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The forum isn't "up in arms" at all. The usual suspects are complaining about the usual subjects. Trying to claim there's a full-scale riot over the decision to offer a premium arty to those people who weren't able to buy one previously doesn't mean it's actually happening, as you can see by the fact that the players have voted to buy that very same arty.

 

Seriously - if the forum is up in arms, why did they vote for it? The poll is on this forum so it's forum members who've voted to have it on sale. Or do you think that the majority of the 10,000+ players to have voted for the lefH so far don't count because they don't agree with you?


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View PostCharlottePartheney, on 11 July 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

 

Its not that good, rumored to be even more inaccurate than other artys also lacking alpha. I think buyers will be disappointed expecting some op machine

 

lol

the abusers have always a good story to defend their abuse

BTW, the FCMpak40 is also very annoying



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I thought the same idea as you and i further thought that no one gone do that cuz everyone on forum only complains but not take action 

Swim_Swim #59 Posted 12 July 2018 - 07:33 AM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 12 July 2018 - 04:32 AM, said:

 

lol

the abusers have always a good story to defend their abuse

BTW, the FCMpak40 is also very annoying

 

Arty is the most luck based class in WoT as it depends the most on your team, rarely seen a good arty player(always check top player stats funnily enough the lowest records with arty in most cases ), also heard this so called op premium arty can't even pen jp heavies. Probably will collect dust in most player garage once they find out bought a legend but not real op tank



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Both the the E25 and the leaf blower (I like that it seems very apt as that is about all it will do) I hear have been nerfed, so no real reason to buy them, the gold burner Chrysler K again is crap because you need to fire premium ammo, just like the IS 6, so it looks like the sensible one is the type 62 whatever, which is ok if your good in lights, but I already have it, and no, I am crap in lights., well in most thing actually.

 

 

I think they should just sell the whole lot in one go as a bumper offer in one weekend, followed by the Defender the next weekend, as that too is a crap tank.






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