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Community #1 Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:01 AM

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For our new special, we're focusing on the men in the machines.

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Deadoks #2 Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:06 AM

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Meh!

mjs_89 #3 Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:00 AM

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Nice special. Got 6 full crews to retrain, 2.9k gold saved. 10/10

 

 

 

Inb4 "discout is not for credits" whiners...



8126Jakobsson #4 Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:02 AM

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But also the women. And the Buffons. 

Cobra6 #5 Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:46 AM

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First we get crew retraining on discount twice a year or so for years when it was needed most and now we are getting spammed with it every month, certainly not complaining but it is a bit cynical.:medal:

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 13 July 2018 - 07:47 AM.


r0f #6 Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:07 AM

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Great timing because some old angry guy made a complete mess on this account, maybe we can fix it (a little) :).

 

View Postmjs_89, on 13 July 2018 - 07:00 AM, said:

Nice special. Got 6 full crews to retrain, 2.9k gold saved. 10/10

 

You've waited a month or two to save €11,- ? Hahahahaha at times you'd almost feel bad for WG. :D


Edited by r0f, 13 July 2018 - 08:08 AM.


undutchable80 #7 Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:13 AM

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Nice! 

8126Jakobsson #8 Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:29 AM

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View Postr0f, on 13 July 2018 - 08:07 AM, said:

You've waited a month or two to save €11,- ? Hahahahaha at times you'd almost feel bad for WG. :D

 

Why not? It's not like we're in a hurry or something. And that money is just for this one video game thing. If he's as conservative with money in all other aspects of life then you'll see that he's saving way more than just 11 euros a month. But hey some people likes to be poor by choice so who am I to judge. I'd say he's spending too much anyway. Gold for retraining - discounted or not - is unnecessary. Put on some boosters that we have too many of and they're up to speed in no time.   



undutchable80 #9 Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:36 AM

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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 13 July 2018 - 08:29 AM, said:

 

Why not? It's not like we're in a hurry or something.   

 

Basically this. And its a principle thing; try to get as much on discount, whether its T6+ tanks, crew (re)training, equipment, consumables, camo etc - DISCOUNTS BABY!!!. :B

Gremlin182 #10 Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:54 AM

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Always useful I found I had a crew left over from the days when I did not understand crew skills so one each of camo  firefighting BIA and Armorer and I have 2 more tanks that I want to train crews for.

 

Wish I could do something with that Bufon commander like send him off to learn English



Suurpolskija #11 Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:57 AM

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My favorite special!

G'bye free xp and inc some crew grinding.

Weak_man #12 Posted 13 July 2018 - 09:14 AM

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View Postr0f, on 13 July 2018 - 09:07 AM, said:

Great timing because some old angry guy made a complete mess on this account, maybe we can fix it (a little) :).

 

 

You've waited a month or two to save €11,- ? Hahahahaha at times you'd almost feel bad for WG. :D

 

I have also 7 crew members to retrain and also waited for this discount. If it is not any hurry, why not. There is no reason to pay full price if you have a lot of tank to play. Or for free xp conversion for example. I have patton line up to tier x and leo up to tier x and now i grind to 140 and e50m but i play tanks only for daily double, there is no rush. When you play only one tank, is no reason to wait for discount but otherwise is worth it.

Players that have already many tanks researched will always retrain crew on discounts, will exchange free xp on discounts, will buy equipment an consumable on discounts, Why ? because can play all day tanks that are fully equiped and with crew with more than 3-4 skills that was already retrained.

 


Edited by Weak_man, 13 July 2018 - 09:55 AM.


Weak_man #13 Posted 13 July 2018 - 09:19 AM

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Next weekend will be mission for 50000 xp for premium tanks (tier 8 and tier X), that i will not play if wg don't give the token also to top 5 xp player from loosing team. I have enough free xp for module research and 50000 xp for crew traning if your crew have mor than 1 skill is not too much to worth the effort.

That top 10 of winning team condition is too frustrating to spend my time with it.

 

If i use that 50000 free xp to module research wg win the conversion real money.

If i use that 50000 xp my crew will rise up faster and i will use also real money to retrain my crew.

In any way wg win, and by not give token to top 5 xp to loosing team means that wg loose money.


Edited by Weak_man, 13 July 2018 - 10:02 AM.


SlyMeerkat #14 Posted 13 July 2018 - 09:32 AM

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undutchable80 #15 Posted 13 July 2018 - 09:48 AM

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View PostWeak_man, on 13 July 2018 - 09:19 AM, said:

 give the token also to top 5 xp player from loosing team. 

 

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mjs_89 #16 Posted 13 July 2018 - 10:09 AM

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View Postr0f, on 13 July 2018 - 08:07 AM, said:

You've waited a month or two to save €11,- ? Hahahahaha at times you'd almost feel bad for WG. :D

 

Yeah, I know. Normally I just retrain crew for 200 gold a piece but since the leFh-invasion starts tomorrow I finished a couple T5 grinds and those add up rather quick.

It's not like I'd have to starve if I spent the extra 2900 gold, but since I knew the special was coming and I wouldn't have played the new tanks anyway (bc other grinds) I decided to wait a couple days instead of wasting my money.


Edited by mjs_89, 13 July 2018 - 10:25 AM.


_6i6_ #17 Posted 13 July 2018 - 10:34 AM

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If you retrain a crew(with credits) who has two skills and third skill is at roughly 75% , how much approx is the loss  after the retrain?

the third skill will be about 45% after the retrain as opposed to the 75%?



kirtidas #18 Posted 13 July 2018 - 10:56 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 13 July 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

First we get crew retraining on discount twice a year or so for years when it was needed most and now we are getting spammed with it every month, certainly not complaining but it is a bit cynical.:medal:

 

Cobra 6

 

shhhhhhh... we need it man! let it be as often as possible.

Simona2k #19 Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:13 AM

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View Postundutchable80, on 13 July 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

Nice! 

 

View PostSlyMeerkat, on 13 July 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

Nice


Nice



Weak_man #20 Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:16 AM

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View Post_6i6_, on 13 July 2018 - 11:34 AM, said:

If you retrain a crew(with credits) who has two skills and third skill is at roughly 75% , how much approx is the loss  after the retrain?

the third skill will be about 45% after the retrain as opposed to the 75%?

 

My appologize, i made a confusion between "crew retrain"  where you are noot loosing so much from 100% to 90 % and "crew reset" 

 

To reset a crew with more than one skill without gold is nuts, because to train one crew member you need the following xp:

1 skill at 100% : 42000 xp/crew member

2 skill at 100%:  42000 (skill1) + 84000 (skill2) xp/crew member = 126000 xp

3 skill at 100%:  = 126000 + 168000 (skill 3) xp/crew member = 294000 xp

4 skill at 100%:  294000 + 336000 (skill4)  xp/crew member = 630000 xp

5 skill at 100%:  630000 + 672000 (skill5) xp/crew member = 1302000 xp

Take in consideration that this is xp/ just 1 crew member. For example to make a tank with 4 crew members to 1 skill at 100 % you need 4x 42000 = 168000 xp. To make ta 5 skill you need: 4x 1302000  = 5208000 xp.

Now take in consideration how much of your real life time you spent to increase that crew xp and in how much time you make the money for 200 (100) gold to retrain that crew.

 

The numbers for xp are not 100% precise but when you have access on test server and increase crew skill with free xp you can check this.

Like wn8,  xp scale is exponential, is not a linear increase.

 

If you reset a crew with 5 skill with silver at 90 % you loose: 5208000 x 0.1 = 520800 xp that for an average player that make 700 xp/battle (700 /4 = 175 for an crew member) and for a 4 tank crew member is: 520800 : (700/4) = 2976 battles wich is insane.

2976 battles x 5 min (but may be much more)= 14880 min/60 = 248 hours of game play.

Is then worth to spend 248 hours of your real life time for 200 gold wich is aproximately 0.8 eur, or 100 gold (0.4 euro on discount) ?

 

Wg ask us to play frustrated 3 days (with top x of the winning team)  to get 50000 xp.  That for a crew with more than 2 skill is almoust 0.

 

 


Edited by Weak_man, 13 July 2018 - 04:16 PM.





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