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ShirtLessScottishGuy #1 Posted 14 July 2018 - 11:50 AM


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Anyone agree with me? Like come on anyone? If you do please up vote replay all of that show WG what we want. What is it exactly? GET RID OF ARTY! It does nothing for the game. Its not fun to play. It takes the skill away from the game. It ruins almost any chance of winning in one of those intense 1 vs 3+ games. I get into these games quite alot where I am last man standing a one man army ready to send off the impending forces and then boom, Bang, Stun and tracked with a 18 second repair time. I go from having a "chance" to going back to my garage feeling angry. I cannot even evade fire unspotted cause somehow they still find me. Still shoot me. And its so annoying I can't even think. I put so much into this game and yet I still rarely find myself smiling. 


Is arty good for the game? In my eyes no. Me and a few allies will be holding a flank strong united as a team, some guys/girls I have never met standing strong. But then out of no where 3 arty shells come bombing in and one guy goes back to the garage the other is spamming the ever loving hell out of the mini map where the shot came from. Where our arty will do nothing he is to busy killing the enemy tanks doing the same as us. Theres no sport in it. No matter how skilfully positioned I am, no matter how thick my armour is. Arty is there to screw it up, but clicking on me. I could clearly be the better player but arty doesn't need skill they just point and shoot, simple as that. 


What good does arty do? Support? Sure makes my life easier when im not being lit up by enemy arty but at what cost? The enjoyment of the game the other player is feeling. I dont get a kick out of perma tracking a enemy tank that cant fire back at me. I dont get a kick out of playing OP 252U's, OBJ268v4's, OBJ430/430Us' and so on. Thats why there some of my less played tanks (not including the tanks I dont actually own.) I want to see a game where people all hold a fair chance at the start if battle. Im not saying a Centurion 1 should kill a Maus. Because a Maus is clearly the better tank. So if I was in a Maus I wouldn't get a kick out of absolutely ROFLstomping a Cent1 I would do it because thats how the game goes. Just like in arty, I have maybe 300 games total in arty and I have never found it fun shooting people from across the map where they cant see me but I can see them. As for "Stopping camping" arty isnt focusing that Strv103b at the back its focusing that IS7 at the front. Who is pushing to the artys allies. But rather than the IS7 having a fair chance arty will start shaving away his hit points and stunning him until his tank is worthless and can't do damage. I don't know about you but I don't want to hide in the arty shadow the whole game. I want to be upfront flanking the enemy tank or using my armour to skillfully block damage. 


If arty was removed? The game would be more about tanking than about who can hide the longest from arty. No longer would we be on our last 100 hp and out of nowhere like magic boom you're dead goodbye, glad you had fun, k thx bye! Instead I would use that 100hp to risk it all and keep pushing on. Hoping to do just enough damage to get that next mark. Instead of having my game come to a abrupt end. 


So to sum up, I really hate arty. I truly hate it beyond description. Just like a T-67 seal clubber I hate them with such a passion it makes me physically euphoric just to get to damage them, but it looks more like me hiding because I have no choice. WG if your listening do us a favour a small kind favour. Go to the test server lock all arty in the game (excluding prem arty) and just let us try it. Just try and see how it goes, who knows maybe it will be horrible and we will be begging for arty back. Could also be so much fun that your player basis doubles. I have had friends from a long time ago that left the game and came back asking me. (Is arty still really bad) Ill say yes and then they leave because the do not want to deal with that. Can you blame them? I wish I could leave but with the amount of money I put into this game I can't just leave. 


I need some people to agree with me, lets show WG this. Maybe just maybe the will run a few days or a week on the test server with no arty. Also the mm issue would be alot easier nothing makes me more angry than being in my new Centurion 5/1 just to be hit for 1000 HP by a T92. 


Please Wargaming try this I know my little voice means nothing but I am at the limit. I can't keep playing this if it isnt going to get better, only worse. 


Good bye and good night.   

Cossu2 #2 Posted 14 July 2018 - 11:52 AM


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Arty is the best of the games. Lets make arty great again...

GingerMensch #3 Posted 14 July 2018 - 11:59 AM


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Mate, I agree 100%. Get rid. Stand by for apologists with the usual lame, worn out and jaded replies/ excuses.

Graeme0 #4 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:02 PM

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Wow such a new perspecive, OP doesn't like anything that can damage in battle and come on here to whine about it


Must have hated the 20 of his own arty he has played and grind to tier 10 INCLUDING THE CGC.


Hates the T67 "seal clubber"??? Took him 115 battles to figure that one out.


Also has a large number of derp and seal clubbing tanks including deathstar, skorp G, 4005 and a massive amount of others in lower tiers....




What a whiny little hypocrite 

Suurpolskija #5 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:02 PM


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You probably haven't read the previous arty whine threads. 


Anyways, there's a pinned SPG discussion thread you're free to use. 

Element6 #6 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:03 PM

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View PostGingerMensch, on 14 July 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Mate, I agree 100%. Get rid. Stand by for apologists with the usual lame, worn out and jaded replies/ excuses.

Arguements on both sides are worn out, they have all been repeated so many times it is virtually pointless to discuss it any further.


But there are some claims that are easily questioned, like "SPGs are not fun to play".


Well, if they are not fun to play, how on earth do we explain that we get them in nearly all battles that we play? You can't have something rain down you neck for years without a lot of players actually wanting to do it.

SlyMeerkat #7 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:12 PM


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I have no issue with arty and if one really hates arty than they should go play Blitz where there isn't any and is a bit easier for people but than again after seeing the leffy as the winner of the vote, i guess arty is not hated as much as people make out to be

Wintermute_1 #8 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:15 PM


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Are you really allowed to promote your channel on Wot forum? Because if you are I wouldnt mind putting up an ad for some secondlhand CDs I want to offload.

SlyMeerkat #9 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:16 PM


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View PostWintermute_1, on 14 July 2018 - 11:15 AM, said:

Are you really allowed to promote your channel on Wot forum? Because if you are I wouldnt mind putting up an ad for some secondlhand CDs I want to offload.


I have done it before and have no warning or anything plus im sure there is a thread for doing just that?

Emeraldweed #10 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:21 PM

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How to promote your stuff to get viewers on twitch: 


Step1: Go to the general forums where most of the people are

Step2: Post a whine thread about a sensitive subject, aka arty etc ( make sure you include the links to your twitch on the TOP for higher visibility)

Step3: ?????????????????????

Step4: Success!


Disclaimer: I have no issues with promoting your stuff in the form of signatures or at the end of your posts, in this case however OPs first priority was to link said channel before his subject which shows his true intentions 

Edited by Emeraldweed, 14 July 2018 - 12:25 PM.

unhappy_bunny #11 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:30 PM


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Had a nice session in tanks yesterday evening.

Played 4 different arty and had fun.

Got counter artied in one battle, my own fault for not moving quick enough, but I was concentrating on a couple of nice juicy targets(KV-1 and Churchill who were threatening to break through).

Then with Bert, making lfe hell for a KV-3. 

Later I played my IS in a battle with 3 arty per side. Had a lot of fun despite getting hit by all 3 enemy arty at the same time. Did I try and hide? Nope, I moved a bit, waited for spot to drop, and then went about my business of shooting whatever was in range. I did get killed by arty eventually, going back to try and reset cap.


So, I am not anti-arty, I occassionally play it, but not often, and I occassionaly get hit by arty when in normal tanks. It is part of the game, and I have learned to deal with it and not get into a rage over it. I think that is just being part of being an adult. 

NickMustaine #12 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:33 PM


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Hello guys, 

I have to close this thread. Use the Big SPG Discussion if you want to talk about artillery. 

Have a nice day! 

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