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slitth #1 Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:50 PM

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I started this topic to discuss what I have named the "hero syndrome"

Something that I see in more and more people that play multiplayer online.

 

Now what is the "hero syndrome"?

Well it a player that thinks that he/she is the hero of the game he/she is playing.

But what is wrong with that? Should we not strive to become the MVP of the match?

 

And yes we should strive to be the MVP of the match.

We should always strive to be our best when competing.

 

The problem is when a player's expects that he/she is the MVP of the match.

Because then everything that prevent the expectation from coming true is bad.

If the teammates are not actively supporting the hero, then they are fools, trolls and/or traitors.

If the enemy manage to defeat the hero, then they are cheaters and/or playing some that should not be in the game.

 

So the problem is people being heroes? It this not just a stab at good player and players that likes to compete?

No, because such player do not necessary suffer from "hero syndrome"

They fight and strive for their results in the game.

Do some of them believe that they are the hero of the game?

Sure there are probably some, but no more that there are new players that believe they are the heroes of the game.

 

Now what problems do the hero syndrome actual cause?

For one it make for some extremely toxic players. After all they think that they are the hero and are entitled to make their option know without any filters.

And there there is the feedback they give the game developers, that feedback is not aim at making the games better, but to fulfil the player expectation of being the hero.

In some of the more extreme case we will see such players cheat, because the game is unable to live up the expectation.

 

That force game developers to use resources to combat such players.

Removing game features and the like.

Resources that might have be use to improve the game.

 

 

 

 

 



Bordhaw #2 Posted 14 July 2018 - 01:22 PM

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View Postslitth, on 14 July 2018 - 11:50 AM, said:

I started this topic to discuss what I have named the "hero syndrome"

Something that I see in more and more people that play multiplayer online.

 

Now what is the "hero syndrome"?

Well it a player that thinks that he/she is the hero of the game he/she is playing.

But what is wrong with that? Should we not strive to become the MVP of the match?

 

And yes we should strive to be the MVP of the match.

We should always strive to be our best when competing.

 

The problem is when a player's expects that he/she is the MVP of the match.

Because then everything that prevent the expectation from coming true is bad.

If the teammates are not actively supporting the hero, then they are fools, trolls and/or traitors.

If the enemy manage to defeat the hero, then they are cheaters and/or playing some that should not be in the game.

 

So the problem is people being heroes? It this not just a stab at good player and players that likes to compete?

No, because such player do not necessary suffer from "hero syndrome"

They fight and strive for their results in the game.

Do some of them believe that they are the hero of the game?

Sure there are probably some, but no more that there are new players that believe they are the heroes of the game.

 

Now what problems do the hero syndrome actual cause?

For one it make for some extremely toxic players. After all they think that they are the hero and are entitled to make their option know without any filters.

And there there is the feedback they give the game developers, that feedback is not aim at making the games better, but to fulfil the player expectation of being the hero.

In some of the more extreme case we will see such players cheat, because the game is unable to live up the expectation.

 

That force game developers to use resources to combat such players.

Removing game features and the like.

Resources that might have be use to improve the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 



Headless_Rooster #3 Posted 14 July 2018 - 01:27 PM

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I think the term you are looking for is: narcissist

 

 



AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #4 Posted 14 July 2018 - 01:43 PM

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yes the minute they die they start pinging the map for the rest of the match and choose someone to blame "you bot ,noob etc " 

pathetic and childish i always add them to my blacklist .



MaxxyNL #5 Posted 14 July 2018 - 01:45 PM

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View Postslitth, on 14 July 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

I started this topic to discuss what I have named the "hero syndrome"

Something that I see in more and more people that play multiplayer online.

 

Now what is the "hero syndrome"?

Well it a player that thinks that he/she is the hero of the game he/she is playing.

But what is wrong with that? Should we not strive to become the MVP of the match?

 

And yes we should strive to be the MVP of the match.

We should always strive to be our best when competing.

 

The problem is when a player's expects that he/she is the MVP of the match.

Because then everything that prevent the expectation from coming true is bad.

If the teammates are not actively supporting the hero, then they are fools, trolls and/or traitors.

If the enemy manage to defeat the hero, then they are cheaters and/or playing some that should not be in the game.

 

So the problem is people being heroes? It this not just a stab at good player and players that likes to compete?

No, because such player do not necessary suffer from "hero syndrome"

They fight and strive for their results in the game.

Do some of them believe that they are the hero of the game?

Sure there are probably some, but no more that there are new players that believe they are the heroes of the game.

 

Now what problems do the hero syndrome actual cause?

For one it make for some extremely toxic players. After all they think that they are the hero and are entitled to make their option know without any filters.

And there there is the feedback they give the game developers, that feedback is not aim at making the games better, but to fulfil the player expectation of being the hero.

In some of the more extreme case we will see such players cheat, because the game is unable to live up the expectation.

 

That force game developers to use resources to combat such players.

Removing game features and the like.

Resources that might have be use to improve the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 



Xandania #6 Posted 14 July 2018 - 01:49 PM

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In each game every one is a cog in the machine called the team - only by working together we can win.

Hero players as described can be useful to take the fight away from the ridges where your own TDs camp. Just the "missing support" behind cover in the front is usually not availiable and leads to butthurt. And later maybe even frustrated redline camping ^^



peekakilla #7 Posted 14 July 2018 - 01:53 PM

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Enforcer1975 #8 Posted 14 July 2018 - 02:03 PM

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Is OP just jealous that he can never be a MVP? Git gud and stop complaining about players who have to carry your weight because you can't. If you are slacking during a game and camp in the back then expect players who actually try to win to be upset with you. Same as IRL, don't do what you are are assigned to do and the one expecting you to do what you have been assigned to do is going to be angry. 

xx984 #9 Posted 14 July 2018 - 02:14 PM

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Jigabachi #10 Posted 14 July 2018 - 02:18 PM

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Such a long post when everything can just be summed up in one single word: Idiots.

SlyMeerkat #11 Posted 14 July 2018 - 02:18 PM

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I just play the game and do the best i can, dont give a crap about anything else :) 

LordMuffin #12 Posted 14 July 2018 - 02:20 PM

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If you want to remove toxicity in game, y out have to get WG to do at least something, currently they are doing close to nothing to handle bad behaviour, pushing, insulting, TKing etc.

Regarding hero behaviour, it might exist, but more due to players thinking they are awesome and that every other player should follow their lead because they always know best themselves. Do they want to be the MVP of the game, maybe. I just know that I myself doesn't really go for such stuff.
I play for fun, sometimes I lol-around, sometimes I play somewhat serious and sometimes I try-hard. It depends on my mood.


Oh, and I see 6 out of 9 posts should not even have been done.

Edited by LordMuffin, 14 July 2018 - 02:20 PM.


slitth #13 Posted 14 July 2018 - 02:50 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 14 July 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

Is OP just jealous that he can never be a MVP? Git gud and stop complaining about players who have to carry your weight because you can't. If you are slacking during a game and camp in the back then expect players who actually try to win to be upset with you. Same as IRL, don't do what you are are assigned to do and the one expecting you to do what you have been assigned to do is going to be angry. 

 

I get from the game what I put in to the game.

And I do not expect anything else.

 

Now the people that suffer from "hero syndrome" are not the ones that get MVP every game.

But are the people that expect to be MVP every game regardless of their skill or what it going on in the game.

 

 



ypr765prco #14 Posted 14 July 2018 - 02:55 PM

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sgtYester #15 Posted 14 July 2018 - 03:26 PM

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oh.. let me guess, ur that one that gets the blame?  right?

 

u cant take the abuse?

 

https://nl.wot-life....litth-500880743

 

git gud, then u will receive a lot less anger

 

i mean  M41GF  600 battles with 42% win..   ur doing something wrong, so ppl will call u out for it. (or are u using bot for easy xp/credits :))


Edited by sgtYester, 14 July 2018 - 03:26 PM.


slitth #16 Posted 14 July 2018 - 04:15 PM

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View PostsgtYester, on 14 July 2018 - 02:26 PM, said:

oh.. let me guess, ur that one that gets the blame?  right?

 

u cant take the abuse?

 

https://nl.wot-life....litth-500880743

 

git gud, then u will receive a lot less anger

 

i mean  M41GF  600 battles with 42% win..   ur doing something wrong, so ppl will call u out for it. (or are u using bot for easy xp/credits :))

 

How did 35 battles turn in to 600?

 

And no, I don't get much abuse.

The little I get I ignore.

And someone has to make you look good by comparison



Kennel_Dog #17 Posted 14 July 2018 - 04:38 PM

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It just sucks being better than 99% of your team. You look at the in-game clock and you're two minutes in and the window lickers are still driving into each other on the cap.

It's like Da vinci watching a bunch of toddlers painting.

Edited by Kennel_Dog, 14 July 2018 - 04:39 PM.


LordMuffin #18 Posted 14 July 2018 - 04:44 PM

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View PostKennel_Dog, on 14 July 2018 - 04:38 PM, said:

It just sucks being better than 99% of your team. You look at the in-game clock and you're two minutes in and the window lickers are still driving into each other on the cap.

It's like Da vinci watching a bunch of toddlers painting.

I am pretty certain you are the kind of player he described.



Wrinkly #19 Posted 14 July 2018 - 04:47 PM

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The greater problem is the player that ignores direction, while boasting a win rate of ~44%.

Edited by Wrinkly, 14 July 2018 - 04:47 PM.


Kennel_Dog #20 Posted 14 July 2018 - 05:12 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 14 July 2018 - 04:44 PM, said:

I am pretty certain you are the kind of player he described.

 

Probably, but rather than the stupid "hero" theory, I'm driven by the need to win. 

I have no interest in being a "hero"  






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