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Sneaky_Tomato #1 Posted 15 July 2018 - 03:07 AM

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This level of toxicity even in forums reminded me why many people do not even use forums anymore.

Thanks for the explanations and for the people who preferred insulting I kindly send their insults back and wish them good luck in their toxic lives!...


Edited by Sneaky_Tomato, 15 July 2018 - 11:32 PM.


Wrinkly #2 Posted 15 July 2018 - 07:01 AM

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Arty was trying to hit the other player beside you when you were first hit. The second time arty just splashed your last known position, DO NOT CAMP!

Orkbert #3 Posted 15 July 2018 - 07:43 AM

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View PostSneaky_Tomato, on 15 July 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

 

Just let me know if I am wrong or what this is all about.

Thanks.

 

Let's see...

You pingspam the map, you accuse the tank that killed you for cheating (which he didn't), you call out to report him, you call out to report another player (which at that low tier battle could just as well just be a newcomer with no clue) and keep on generally rambling in the chat.

 

Furthermore you wrote in the title of the replay

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 IMPOSSIBLE SHOTS FROM %34 HIT RATIO PLAYER

 

While completely ignoring that that player is mainly playing arty for which a 34% hit ratio isn't that bad, not to mention that the piddly rock you crouched behind is nothing for 6m splash radius.

(let alone that even a bad player could always have a good roll here and there)

 

And finally: with 7000+ battles and member since 2013 you just showed a weird ignorance of the game mechanics. (Ebay?)

 

View PostWrinkly, on 15 July 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

Arty was trying to hit the other player beside you when you were first hit. The second time arty just splashed your last known position, DO NOT CAMP!

 

THAT.

 

Also SturmpanzerII is now one of the strongest SPGs in the low tier meta.

 


Edited by Orkbert, 15 July 2018 - 09:44 AM.


Jigabachi #4 Posted 15 July 2018 - 08:29 AM

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What's the point of asking that question when your opinion on it is already set in stone and you already raged around and reported random people?

RamRaid90 #5 Posted 15 July 2018 - 08:45 AM

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Classic Ebay account with zero understanding of game mechanics.

 

Get your money back and start a new account, learning the game as you go.

 

Exactly the reason XVM means nothing. I've seen no end of supposed good players who display bot levels of game knowledge recently. I've also seen bot stat players playing like gods on a regular basis.
 



250swb #6 Posted 15 July 2018 - 08:49 AM

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View PostSneaky_Tomato, on 15 July 2018 - 02:07 AM, said:

Just need to understand how such a player can make impossible shots even if you are not spotted or shoots exact location of unspotted targets?

 

 

The arty fired three shots at you when you were behind the rock. Though spotted the first two shots both landed in slightly different places, so when you became unspotted there was only one last bit of rock to aim for where you could still be hiding. It was skillful blind firing that killed you, gradually working out where you were. I agree with the others, if you haven't worked things like that out by now there is something fishy going on.



vixu #7 Posted 15 July 2018 - 09:26 AM

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that I think is the only one that has splash at tier 4. So he was trying to splash. Low tier arties are often having a a very steep angle of attack. So, they can land shots fairly near the other side of the rock. You final position made the rear of your tank stand out away from the rock. And he was lucky to land it on you or very near. That's all.

 

Anyways, if you are wondering how did he know your position - you died where you were spotted last.

If you are implying that he might be doing an impossible shots - there are not such things. 

 



NUKLEAR_SLUG #8 Posted 15 July 2018 - 09:56 AM

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View Post250swb, on 15 July 2018 - 08:49 AM, said:

 

The arty fired three shots at you when you were behind the rock.

 

You would think after the third attempt to drop a shell on his head OP would have got a clue that staying in the same spot was probably not the best plan..

RockyRoller #9 Posted 15 July 2018 - 10:07 AM

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Well some shots are based on stats, like that film Equilibrium, you know the odds that bush has a lurker so you shot at it.

Some SPG shots fire at the tracers, but WG have made this harder and I often find the shot is not fired from where the tracer first gets seen at (last saw this in my last game in fact, I knew the M44 was there but when he was finally spotted it was a good tank away from where shots first get seen). Bug in the new gfx?

You don't have 6th sense and they have a very high skilled tank spotting like an ELC 90 Even. Not fully Camo skilled and my evil 90 is 54.6% camo & 44% moving so it's hard to spot for new tanks.

Some shots are pure luck and miss their target but hit you instead.

 

and yes there are cheaters, they get caught and banned every so often so we know they exist!

 

I admit its not easy you just got to ignore the really frustrating part of the game and enjoy the good battles.

 



vasilinhorulezz #10 Posted 15 July 2018 - 10:08 AM

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Pro seal-clubber gets rekt, start a hack-accusation thread...

I'm getting ready:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Go...



HaZardeur #11 Posted 15 July 2018 - 10:39 AM

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InB4

 



Bordhaw #12 Posted 15 July 2018 - 10:45 AM

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View PostSneaky_Tomato, on 15 July 2018 - 02:07 AM, said:

Am I missing something?..

 

Skills



DuncaN_101 #13 Posted 15 July 2018 - 02:08 PM

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View PostBordhaw, on 15 July 2018 - 10:45 AM, said:

 

Skills

Ooowww burn. 



Infektid #14 Posted 15 July 2018 - 02:28 PM

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View PostBordhaw, on 15 July 2018 - 09:45 AM, said:

 

Skills

And *edit  


Edited by Jbnn, 16 July 2018 - 07:31 AM.
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Stalpanter #15 Posted 15 July 2018 - 02:49 PM

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I see nothing wrong in reply, You were spotted and arty hit you, 3 times, two with slash. Perhaps keep moving?

Steve8066 #16 Posted 15 July 2018 - 03:02 PM

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View PostWrinkly, on 15 July 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

Arty was trying to hit the other player beside you when you were first hit. The second time arty just splashed your last known position, DO NOT CAMP!

 

do not camp? then remove arty because that makes me camp 1000% more than battles with no arty.

peekakilla #17 Posted 15 July 2018 - 03:06 PM

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View PostSneaky_Tomato, on 15 July 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

 

Or can shoot you when you are behind huge stone.

 

search for a bigger stone

Balc0ra #18 Posted 15 July 2018 - 03:31 PM

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 View PostSneaky_Tomato, on 15 July 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

 Just need to understand how such a player can make impossible shots even if you are not spotted or shoots exact location of unspotted targets?

Or can shoot you when you are behind huge stone.

 

Did you buy your account on Ebay or what? 7K games and you still don't know how the game works? Spotting is done server side. Unspotted targets is info your client don't get. So the enemy arty can't know where you are regardless. And you drove over nothing for the map destruction mod to show your location even hiding behind the rock. So no... he can't know where you are if you are not spotted. If you know of such a mod... then show us. As I'm willing to bet you won't find one. Not can shells hit past solid objects. As the hitbox is server side, so is shell calculations. Something client side mods can't alter. So no.. he can't use mods to hit behind the rock either. If you want to whine about hacks. At least know how they work and what they are limited past. I'm talking about the game chat, not here. 

 

The first hit I'm 100% willing to bet that he was aiming for the Valentine AT. As he had taken hits from him before, as you look right at him taking arty hits. If you had situational awareness, you would have noticed that too. Then he backed off, and you drove into his last spotted location, and into the shells path heading there. Nothing more, nothing less. Then you got spotted behind the rock hitting the M2. He splashed on a hit landing outside the rocks cover. As indicated by the big crater behind you. Then you hardly moved and got hit again. Two things can have happened there. 1: I'm sure you noticed the 400m view range Pak 40 did yolo your Bison right below you. For all we know he kept you spotted via the gap in the trees before he got spotted when he drove down the middle 2: You hardly moved and he just aimed at your last known location and got lucky... as in behind the rock in general. Don't need a high WR to know how splash works.  And if you look above your wreck, there is a V shape in the rock right above you. A perfect spot for a shell to arch over and hit behind the rock. If you got despotted, and we got for option two. It's the only spot that gives him a green line behind the rock. And it's the spot you just happened to stay behind. Don't need a hack for that. Nor do you need to be spotted for that to work. 

 

And did he hit the Strv? I did not see him take a single hit moving up after you died, or on the mountain even. Only splash I did see was the hits in front of you on your platoon mates last location. And when you did start to whine about that, your platoon mate spotted the arty in question moving down the middle. So I'm willing to be it was not even him hitting that area. As there is more then 1 arty on the enemy team. 

 

 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 15 July 2018 - 03:34 PM.


Shivva #19 Posted 15 July 2018 - 03:37 PM

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View PostSneaky_Tomato, on 15 July 2018 - 02:07 AM, said:

http://wotreplays.eu...y_tomato-su-76m

 

Just need to understand how such a player can make impossible shots even if you are not spotted or shoots exact location of unspotted targets?

Or can shoot you when you are behind huge stone.

Am I missing something?..

I saw him shoot to an unspotted target twice (strv in the end of battle) and me as well.

Just let me know if I am wrong or what this is all about.

Thanks.

 

Just another whining reroll..... *edit  

Edited by Jbnn, 16 July 2018 - 07:32 AM.
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HugSeal #20 Posted 15 July 2018 - 03:47 PM

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View PostSneaky_Tomato, on 15 July 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

 

Just need to understand how such a player can make impossible shots 

 

You should probably look up what the bolded word means. You getting hit msomewhat hints at the shot not being impossible.






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