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Luctor_ #1 Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:08 AM

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Hi,
 

So,.. Reseached the WZ-120 after upgrading the 110 to all its moduls. Happy Happy Joy Joy. Because they share the same gun: Gun 100 mm 62-100T (and the same engine Engine 12150LS too, but thats not the point now).
 

Game says: Incompatible Turret - Purchase "Gun 100 mm 62-100T" and send it to depot? (game doesn't say incompatible turret to the second engine though... but who mounts an engine to a turret hm!?) No no no, mount it to turret, do not send it to depot!!! Game won't listen / Sad face! 
 

Add 45.000 experience for an obsolete gun (Gun 100 mm 60-100T) to then get to the turret (add an other 23.500 exp) to then mount the (already exp. free) Gun 100 mm 62-100T - and on top of that it isn't even the top gun. 

This brought me to tears... crying a river or 2 QQ and the TT.... 

 

What's the point? It almost seems like harrasment, grind 45.000 exp. Not amused. The WZ-132 used the same system but not with a that great of difference between its guns: WZ-132: Same damage, +4 penetration and some minor things. But on the WZ-120 it is +26 pen, +70 dmg and some minor changes. I recon it is a big difference to have 189 pen or 215 pen on tier 9, as goes for the damage output from 250 to 320.

How to fix this? Please move the second turret away from between the guns and extend it to the other turret module(-line... its a line of 2 then) or make it compatible to the first turret. Sounds good no? 
So you can bypass the modules one reseached on an other vehicle and implement it without grinding for an obsolete gun (as expample like the German heavy tank line with its guns.)
Pretty please.
Cherry on top.
Thank you.

 



Tankyouverymuch2 #2 Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:36 AM

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:popcorn:

 

No but really, I bought the WZ-120 recently myself, and the grind with 189mm pen at tier 9 is inconvenient to say the least... but not impossible. Adapt.



MeNoobTank #3 Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:50 AM

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no...the problem is that I first need to research the 189 pen gun with the 181 pen gun....which I actually already got from WZ-132 light tank but for some reason they are listed as 2 different guns.

WoT_RU_Doing #4 Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:52 AM

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Not something they are at all likely to change, as they'd have to find a way to compensate all the angry players who have already completed this. Far easier to leave it as it is and reap profits from anyone who gives up on grinding and does it with free XP conversions.

Edited by WoT_RU_Doing, 16 July 2018 - 12:55 AM.


Luctor_ #5 Posted 16 July 2018 - 01:11 AM

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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 15 July 2018 - 11:36 PM, said:

:popcorn:

 

No but really, I bought the WZ-120 recently myself, and the grind with 189mm pen at tier 9 is inconvenient to say the least... but not impossible. Adapt.

 

Not claiming to be impossible. Just made me cry. Sharing my tears here.
 

View PostMeNoobTank, on 15 July 2018 - 11:50 PM, said:

no...the problem is that I first need to research the 189 pen gun with the 181 pen gun....which I actually already got from WZ-132 light tank but for some reason they are listed as 2 different guns.

 

Exactly! Like that. Just that. Even worse.
Got blessed with the 110, without that you cry double the tears. 
 

*Hands out handkerchief.



IZMIR_METRO #6 Posted 16 July 2018 - 03:21 AM

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WG forgot 121 line a long time ago.

nightfoxy #7 Posted 16 July 2018 - 06:47 AM

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what is dumb, i had to play is-m with 100mm turret. tracks + gun = 55k xp. f.... t6 penning me straight into turret just lol.

Geno1isme #8 Posted 16 July 2018 - 09:55 AM

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 16 July 2018 - 01:50 AM, said:

no...the problem is that I first need to research the 189 pen gun with the 181 pen gun....which I actually already got from WZ-132 light tank but for some reason they are listed as 2 different guns.

 

Before 9.18 it was actually the same gun, but with the rework of the light techtrees WG decided to rename it for some reason.

 



fwhaatpiraat #9 Posted 16 July 2018 - 10:12 AM

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Worst stock grind in the game due to combination of length of the grind and its performance.

Coincidentally, there is a Russian counterpart that is much stronger, with same mobility, better armor, dpm, better gun depression and gun handling, but 50 less alpha. 205-210mm of penetration of an amx 13-90 or t54e1 is just enough to bounce 3 out of 4 shells quite reliably. Da.



DuncaN_101 #10 Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:03 PM

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Just grind out the 113 or 5a first
This way you will have most modules unlocked and make it easier on yourself.

But i have to agree that you might as well give up on the 121. It's hardly worth it any more

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 16 July 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

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But i have to agree that you might as well give up on the 121. It's hardly worth it any more

I'm affraid to agree here. Too bad wasting so much effort into this line. Looked forward to try out the tier 9 and 10, because T-34-2 was a real dissapointment compared to tier 6 & 7. And yeah, by memory back in the days 121 was a good tank (hearsay). 



MeNoobTank #12 Posted 16 July 2018 - 01:23 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 16 July 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

Just grind out the 113 or 5a first
This way you will have most modules unlocked and make it easier on yourself.

But i have to agree that you might as well give up on the 121. It's hardly worth it any more

 

Yes! I am at WZ 111 - 1 4 or whatever is called tier 9 heavy, so I guess I would already get most of the top modules. The biggest problem is that you are not allowed to mount them because you need the second turret that you cannot research. They force you to re-research an outdated gun with very bad pen and alpha that cost 45k xp with another similar outdated gun with similar pen that is completly absurd.

DuncaN_101 #13 Posted 16 July 2018 - 01:35 PM

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Ah I see the problem now.
Well here is what WG wants you to do. Use free xp
Sad but true

(I myself did it wrong and went the med line first so I actually did grind allot of the modules till I couldn't stand it any more and caved in)

Dr_ownape #14 Posted 16 July 2018 - 03:18 PM

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who cares the tank is awful, i gave up, i suggest you do the same. Pointless grind unless you want the awful 121 too

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View PostDr_ownape, on 16 July 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

who cares the tank is awful, i gave up, i suggest you do the same. Pointless grind unless you want the awful 121 too

 

I'm really demoltivated to continue the WZ-120, and 121 right now. 



Volfrahm #16 Posted 16 July 2018 - 05:46 PM

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Should just grind to the T-54 instead, you get basically the same tank with the added bonus of Rashan bias armor and actual mobility.

Oh and the 122mm 'broomstick' top gun is fun for about one game, till you realize how painfully inaccurate it is.

 



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View PostLuctor_, on 16 July 2018 - 04:37 PM, said:

 

I'm really demoltivated to continue the WZ-120, and 121 right now. 

 

yeah perhaps I shouldn't have been so one sided

Kennel_Dog #18 Posted 16 July 2018 - 09:14 PM

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Like most people said, the 121 was a gem. It's been made not only obsolete but also has nothing unusual enough about it to make it worth the grind now.
Add the (What I found to be) horrible grind that is the WZ 120 and you have an all around waste of time currently.

MeNoobTank #19 Posted 16 July 2018 - 09:23 PM

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My aim was actually tier 9 wz not the tier 10 121 because that indeed is nothing special anymore. Wz 120 still has the highest alpha amongst the tier 9 meds, isn't it ?

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 16 July 2018 - 09:23 PM, said:

My aim was actually tier 9 wz not the tier 10 121 because that indeed is nothing special anymore. Wz 120 still has the highest alpha amongst the tier 9 meds, isn't it ?

 

still is, for now




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