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Gunsk #1 Posted 17 July 2018 - 05:55 PM

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Hello. I'm so sick and tired of getting pounded by arty almost EVERY game now. It seems like the only reason for this, is because I have above average wn8, and most people playing these days have below 1k. 

Why can't WG just remove the [edited]wn8 stat from "IN-GAME"?!? Just look it up on wotlabs whatever, if you care so much about it. 



OIias_of_Sunhillow #2 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:00 PM

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How am I supposed to know what your WN8 is, at the start of battle ?

Not that I even care.



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wn8 is indeed a plague, WG must ban XVM

Gunsk #4 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:03 PM

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Haven't been playing for a while now, so I logged in to test again. Same crap. Tier 10 every time you play tier 8, and *edited* all over the place. Was thinking about opening a prem acc and buying some gold, but nah. I'd rather play Tetris xD

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lgfrbcsgo #5 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:04 PM

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Artillery players are mostly opportunistic. They'll shoot whoever is spotted and in the open at the time. Therefore, if you're playing aggressive, you will be hit more likely by artillery as you're spotted and out in the open most of the time.

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View Postlgfrbcsgo, on 17 July 2018 - 06:04 PM, said:

Artillery players are mostly opportunistic. They'll shoot whoever is spotted and in the open at the time. Therefore, if you're playing aggressive, you will be hit more likely by artillery as you're spotted and out in the open most of the time.

 

*edited*. If I'm in an open field with all my teammates, most arty players shoot the one with the highest wn8 score. If you haven't noticed that, you must have a low wn8 score yourself. 

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OIias_of_Sunhillow #7 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:07 PM

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View PostGunsk, on 17 July 2018 - 05:05 PM, said:

 

*edited* If I'm in an open field with all my teammates, most arty players shoot the one with the highest wn8 score. If you haven't noticed that, you must have a low wn8 score yourself. 

 

I'll ask again; How am I supposed to know your WN8 at the start of battle ?

 



lgfrbcsgo #8 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:08 PM

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View PostGunsk, on 17 July 2018 - 06:05 PM, said:

 

*edited*. If I'm in an open field with all my teammates, most arty players shoot the one with the highest wn8 score. If you haven't noticed that, you must have a low wn8 score yourself. 

 

I am guessing you are leading the charge though?

At least do a quick lookup when starting to throw the stats argument around...



CmdRatScabies #9 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:11 PM

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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 17 July 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:

 

I'll ask again; How am I supposed to know your WN8 at the start of battle ?

 

 

Is that a trick question?

r0f #10 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:11 PM

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Just let people decide about sharing their details with 3rd party mod-sites. Simple on / off check-mark. XVM could stay for people who love it,  people who mainly get abused by it you could just turn it off.

 

Heck, you have to use your offical WoT account login-details on that 3rd party website to start using XVM... if  3rd party lovers have to opt-in why can't 3rd-party haters opt-out? Seems fishy to be honest.

 


Edited by r0f, 17 July 2018 - 06:15 PM.


OIias_of_Sunhillow #11 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:12 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 17 July 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

 

Is that a trick question?

 

No.

Would you like it a third time ?

Perhaps I could make it an easier question to answer, but I'm unsure how to.



lgfrbcsgo #12 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:16 PM

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View Postr0f, on 17 July 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

Heck, you have to use your offical WoT account login-details on that 3rd party website to start using XVM... 

 

The XVM team is just using Wargaming's OpenID service. It is used for verifying your in-game identity. There is no account data transferred in the process... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID

 

EDIT: Just for clarification, it also does not give XVM access to your account and/or personal data.


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r0f #13 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:17 PM

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View Postlgfrbcsgo, on 17 July 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

 

The XVM team is just using Wargaming's OpenID service. It is used for verifying your in-game identity. There is no account data transferred in the process...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID

 

That's not the point; you need to use your official account-details to start using a 3rd party mod, but people who get a bad experience from this 3rd party mod without even using it, cannot opt-out with their official account.

 


Edited by r0f, 17 July 2018 - 06:19 PM.


Homer_J #14 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:22 PM

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I target the tanks which are the biggest threat (unless there's a light tank making himself an easy target), if you have an above average WN8 then you are likely being a threat quite often.  It's not your WN8 that's making me target you because I don't know what it is, it's your actions telling me that keeping you down is what's going to give my team the best chance to win.

 

My advice is to git better.  Really good players can be a threat and avoid arty focus.  You aren't quite there though.


Edited by Homer_J, 17 July 2018 - 06:23 PM.


r0f #15 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:23 PM

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View Postr0f, on 17 July 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

 

That's not the point; you need to use your official account-details to start using a 3rd party mod, but people who get a bad experience from this 3rd party mod without even using it, cannot opt-out with their official account.

 

 

For crying out loud you can disable non-historical skins other people bought with real money, if you don't like that in your game (battle!).

 

But not this? Nah, not fishy at all!

 

 


Edited by r0f, 17 July 2018 - 06:26 PM.


lgfrbcsgo #16 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:24 PM

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View Postr0f, on 17 July 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

 

That's not the point; you need to use your official account-details to start using a 3rd party mod, but people who get a bad experience from this 3rd party mod without even using it, cannot opt-out with their official account.

 

 

Well, from a technical stand point you don't have to login to use the mod.

XVM only uses accounts for some of its features and to control access to its APIs (to limit abuse). XVM uses WG's OpenID because it is convenient for the players to use their existing WG accounts. They could be using their own authentication system, but that would make their system less secure...



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View PostGunsk, on 17 July 2018 - 05:05 PM, said:

 

*edited*. If I'm in an open field with all my teammates, most arty players shoot the one with the highest wn8 score. If you haven't noticed that, you must have a low wn8 score yourself. 

 

Why would you be in an open field with all your teammates when you know there is arty about? 

 

As a below average WN8 player I can confirm that on occasions I have been targetted by arty. Presumably because I was spotted, was in a Heavy, and not because of my WN8. Therefore I call BS on your theory and say it is most likely because you were spotted and therefore the easiest target to go for. 



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Wn8 is no problem at all, live xvm stats in the game are a problem.

r0f #19 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:28 PM

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View Postlgfrbcsgo, on 17 July 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

Well, from a technical stand point you don't have to login to use the mod.

XVM only uses accounts for some of its features and to control access to its APIs (to limit abuse). XVM uses WG's OpenID because it is convenient for the players to use their existing WG accounts. They could be using their own authentication system, but that would make their system less secure...

 

Again not the point so I don't get why you are hammering that. But fine.

 

Having a 3rd party mod change your battle experience without an option to opt-out when they have to opt-in to start with, is fishy. Again, you can even disable historical skins other people bought / earned, if that affects your battle... not this 3rd party thing, in battle.

 

What people want to see outside of battles doesn't matter, don't need a mod for that anyway. Not saying people should be able to hide their performance outside of battles.


Edited by r0f, 17 July 2018 - 06:33 PM.


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View PostGunsk, on 17 July 2018 - 06:05 PM, said:

 

That's BS. If I'm in an open field with all my teammates, most arty players shoot the one with the highest wn8 score. If you haven't noticed that, you must have a low wn8 score yourself. 

 

No its not.

1) XVM is not as wide-spread used as you claim.

2) Even if arty player uses XVM, he/she will target you if you can be targeted AND if he is not already aiming at somebody else.

XVM focus is a myth. At best you may get 5% more loving from an arty, then otherwise. Besides, there are quite a bit of players with similarly good stats.






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