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the_nebuchadnezzar #1 Posted 18 July 2018 - 10:58 AM

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Ok, so I just played a game on Prokhorovka which let me with a question: how the f*&k did the T54 manage to shot me at the end? In my head I was 100% behind cover - the wreck of the M103 - and he could not shot under the wreck cause in front was a small mound which made the shot impossible... I think. I`m not suggesting he was cheating or some tinfoil conspiracy, but I would love to hear an explanation. What do you guys think? The shot is at 8:04...
http://wotreplays.eu...6a22e3d6fa46923

Edited by the_nebuchadnezzar, 18 July 2018 - 11:23 AM.


wsatnutter #2 Posted 18 July 2018 - 10:59 AM

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hold on let me watch brb

 

im back the link gives a 404 error


Edited by wsatnutter, 18 July 2018 - 11:00 AM.


the_nebuchadnezzar #3 Posted 18 July 2018 - 11:01 AM

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View Postwsatnutter, on 18 July 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

im back the link gives a 404 error

Works for me... 



Sirebellus #4 Posted 18 July 2018 - 11:08 AM

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404 for meScreen Shot 2018-07-18 at 11.07.49.png

wsatnutter #5 Posted 18 July 2018 - 11:10 AM

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as above

Geno1isme #6 Posted 18 July 2018 - 11:13 AM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 18 July 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

Works for me... 

 

You have some whitespace at the end of the URL which breaks the link. Working version: http://wotreplays.eu...6a22e3d6fa46923

mortalsatsuma #7 Posted 18 July 2018 - 11:20 AM

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404 error. Can't watch it. 

Dr_ownape #8 Posted 18 July 2018 - 11:22 AM

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i reckon he could see the side of your turret under the back fo the M103s turret

 


Edited by Dr_ownape, 18 July 2018 - 11:24 AM.


the_nebuchadnezzar #9 Posted 18 July 2018 - 11:23 AM

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View Postmortalsatsuma, on 18 July 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

404 error. Can't watch it. 

 

Try now! 
 

View PostDr_ownape, on 18 July 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

i reckon he could see the side of your turret under the back fo the M103s turret

 

 

But your angle is not 100% right cause he was fired his gun from somewhere below me. 
 

Dr_ownape #10 Posted 18 July 2018 - 11:28 AM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 18 July 2018 - 10:27 AM, said:

 

But your angle is not 100% right cause he was fired his gun from somewhere below me. 

 

yeah i don't have free camera mod to go to his gun and look, but it's the only plausible answer. Perhaps someone will soon

 

edit: Did you ask him afterwards?


Edited by Dr_ownape, 18 July 2018 - 11:29 AM.


peekakilla #11 Posted 18 July 2018 - 02:34 PM

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i recommend you to send the replay to the Central Intelligence Agency, they got better technology to investigate about your issue.

Cossu2 #12 Posted 18 July 2018 - 02:43 PM

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http://wotreplays.eu...ossu2-conqueror

 

There isnt anything fishy in this game. Someone is just better players :P. Here i get fueltank,ammorack,fueltank, ammorack, boom. Enemy just change module for every shot when damage is done...



Balc0ra #13 Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:24 PM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 18 July 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

But your angle is not 100% right cause he was fired his gun from somewhere below me. 

 

Slow the replay speed way down, and have it on the slowest speed just as you start to move away from the M103 wreck. The issue here is that since he is not spotted, there is no tracer to follow. But you can still see the AP impact for a few frames after the blaze of glory that follows. Tho for me the initial explosion covers everything in a bright light. But the next few frames you see the impact spark and hit on the back side of your turret as you turn it around to show it's side. And if you turn the camera around to in front of the M103 wreck. You see the purple dot and the sparks around it right between the gap shown on the image below from the impact. Suggesting he got really lucky and got the round in the narrow gap between the turret and hull. As the shell's hitbox is only along the center line. So with luck with regards to dispersion, it's not an impossible shot to pull off. 

 

As it's the only spot he could have hit you tbh. On the other side it's only the gun that sticks out, a module and no armor. The gap under the M103 was covered by the bumps on the hill in front of the wreck. And no chance over it. 

 

Spoiler

 

 

View PostCossu2, on 18 July 2018 - 02:43 PM, said:

http://wotreplays.eu...ossu2-conqueror

 

There isnt anything fishy in this game. Someone is just better players :P. Here i get fueltank,ammorack,fueltank, ammorack, boom. Enemy just change module for every shot when damage is done...

 

Then what are you suggesting? Considering the wandering module damage tank that is from any angle. And the way module damage calculation works.... you just got really unlucky. 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 18 July 2018 - 03:26 PM.


tankqull #14 Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:39 PM

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probabbly his position

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zoomed in pov

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thats the angle of his shot, he can slightly see the soft side of your turret, if you would still have faced him he would have bounced. badluck mate... he had luck with pixle snipe + you facing the wrong direction.


Edited by tankqull, 18 July 2018 - 03:50 PM.


Cossu2 #15 Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:41 PM

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Just want to show how good players this game provides. I just shoot tanks wherever i can pen them. Maybe someday i can switch modules to aim during battle situation. Shots was good also. Middle of tank->broken, middle of ammorack->broken, Middle of tank->fire, middle of ammorack->broken again, middle of ammorack->boom :B

Baldrickk #16 Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:51 PM

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I can't as I'm heading cross country today and will be in a tent for the next few nights, but does anyone else have the battle hits mod?
Enable the replay mode, start up tanks and check it.
We could then see exactly where the shot hit and the direction it came from.

Orkbert #17 Posted 18 July 2018 - 06:09 PM

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Also let's not forget that maybe the wrecked tank's collision model might not be 100% following the actual outline, so there might be gaps where they shouldn't. (and paths blocked where there should be a clear line)

 

In one of my games the turret of an ammoracked tank ended up hovering above its own hull.

 


Edited by Orkbert, 19 July 2018 - 03:03 PM.


HassenderZerhacker #18 Posted 19 July 2018 - 08:03 PM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 18 July 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

I can't as I'm heading cross country today and will be in a tent for the next few nights, but does anyone else have the battle hits mod?
Enable the replay mode, start up tanks and check it.
We could then see exactly where the shot hit and the direction it came from.

 

yes, I use it for situations like this one





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