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nahidali91 #1 Posted 21 July 2018 - 02:55 AM

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recently bought the highly talked about pz2j. was really excited. played my first game it was decent as expected. however one thing that really annoys me is the fact that we have to face tier 4...I feel hopeless with my tier 1 mg....pls limit mm to tier 3

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View Postnahidali91, on 21 July 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

recently bought the highly talked about pz2j. 

 



KillingJoker #4 Posted 21 July 2018 - 09:09 AM

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I would ratter give it a tier V gun, something like the Hetzer 105mm derp

Tankistu #5 Posted 21 July 2018 - 09:13 AM

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View Postnahidali91, on 21 July 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

recently bought the highly talked about pz2j. was really excited. played my first game it was decent as expected. however one thing that really annoys me is the fact that we have to face tier 4...I feel hopeless with my tier 1 mg....pls limit mm to tier 3

 

If you bought it expecting the same highly-talked about abilities it had years ago, then it was a bad decision.

The game has changed over the years, maybe the Pz2J's MM has also been altered, one thing's sure: for a long time now it stopped being the clubber of seals that it once was.    


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View Postnahidali91, on 21 July 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

recently bought the highly talked about pz2j. was really excited. played my first game it was decent as expected. however one thing that really annoys me is the fact that we have to face tier 4...I feel hopeless with my tier 1 mg....pls limit mm to tier 3

 

View PostTankistu, on 21 July 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

 

If you bought it expecting the same highly-talked about abilities it had years ago, then it was a bad decision.

 

 

Yep, OP was scammed.



vasilinhorulezz #7 Posted 21 July 2018 - 09:40 AM

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Yea, buff the sealclubbin monster with more armor than the KV1.

Good job OP,

facepalm :facepalm: prize of the day goes to you.

 

Congratulations!!!!

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Balc0ra #8 Posted 21 July 2018 - 11:39 AM

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View Postnahidali91, on 21 July 2018 - 02:55 AM, said:

recently bought the highly talked about pz2j. was really excited. played my first game it was decent as expected. however one thing that really annoys me is the fact that we have to face tier 4...I feel hopeless with my tier 1 mg....pls limit mm to tier 3

 

80mm armor at tier 3? Well you have that puny gun for a reason. 

 

Then again... on tier 3 you have the SU-76i you can't pen, but that can pen you. Lucky for you tho, he is an even rarer sight. 



Tankistu #9 Posted 21 July 2018 - 01:31 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 21 July 2018 - 10:39 AM, said:

 

80mm armor at tier 3? Well you have that puny gun for a reason. 

 

Then again... on tier 3 you have the SU-76i you can't pen, but that can pen you. Lucky for you tho, he is an even rarer sight. 

 

MTLS-1G14, T-127, PzKpfw S35, Somua S35, M3G FT can easily pen Pz2J with APCR.

Marder II with normal ammo.

Valentine AT and Cruiser II can hurt it badly with their tier V guns.

Just to name a few. 

So what seal clubber? 

 


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Balc0ra #10 Posted 21 July 2018 - 02:00 PM

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View PostTankistu, on 21 July 2018 - 01:31 PM, said:

 

MTLS-1G14, T-127, PzKpfw S35, Somua S35, M3G FT can easily pen Pz2J with APCR.

Marder II with normal ammo.

Valentine AT and Cruiser II can hurt it badly with their tier V guns.

Just to name a few. 

So what seal clubber? 

 

 

Thing is that when it came, normal tier 3 pen was between 40 to 50 for the most part, and it was a good clubber.  Tho then he was a much more rare sight. Newly added tanks on that tier have between 60 to 70 now. So some of them can pen him on a high roll with normal ammo if the impact angle is not too big.  But their gold pen did jump accordingly as well. So most don't have too big of an issue with him now vs a few years ago. But even so, that the II J sees tier 4 armor with that gun now and then. It's the price you pay for padding I guess. 

 

Tho the SU-76I is the same. It was strong when it came in terms of armor. But you notice more and more deal with it easier now with AP. That and it has the least HP of most low tiers. So most take it out with 2 shots. But then again, it has the Matilda IV gun. So it's not useless vs everything. And still strong in a support role. 



Nishi_Kinuyo #11 Posted 21 July 2018 - 06:53 PM

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Wah wah my broken tank isn't as OP as I wanted it to be, wah wah.

Cry me a river will ya.

 

Can confirm though; Type 97 Chi-Ha and Type 91 Heavy can pen it with regular AP, T-70 can pen it easily with gold.


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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 21 July 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

Wah wah my broken tank isn't as OP as I wanted it to be, wah wah.

Cry me a river will ya.

 

Can confirm though; Type 97 Chi-Ha and Type 91 Heavy can pen it with regular AP, T-70 can pen it easily with gold.

 

He probably saw some vids featuring the tank in its OP days and paid almost 100 euro for it. So not only does he have a good reason to cry a river, but I think he has paid for his right to do so! 

Nishi_Kinuyo #13 Posted 21 July 2018 - 07:13 PM

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View PostTankistu, on 21 July 2018 - 06:59 PM, said:

 

He probably saw some vids featuring the tank in its OP days and paid almost 100 euro for it. So not only does he have a good reason to cry a river, but I think he has paid for his right to do so! 

Except that he payed almost €100 for the 30.500 gold, and got a broken tier 3 tank as bonus. :trollface:



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 21 July 2018 - 06:13 PM, said:

Except that he payed almost €100 for the 30.500 gold, and got a broken tier 3 tank as bonus. :trollface:

 

Ah yes, the glass half full... but he probably doesn't see it that way, hence this thread. :)

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View Postnahidali91, on 21 July 2018 - 02:55 AM, said:

recently bought the highly talked about pz2j. was really excited. played my first game it was decent as expected. however one thing that really annoys me is the fact that we have to face tier 4...I feel hopeless with my tier 1 mg....pls limit mm to tier 3

 

Easy solution: Play the Pz.II D instead (your profile shows you got that one too)

That one has the very same gun, does indeed only see tier 3 max and if you're lucky you might even get into matches with tier 1 and 2 tanks only, so your wish is already fulfilled, isn't that nice?

 

Of course the II D gets the lower tier package with a few disadvantages but I'm sure you can cope with that.



nahidali91 #16 Posted 21 July 2018 - 08:31 PM

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ive read all your replies. what you need to consider is that 1) all tier 3s have have a MM buff as they no longer see tier 5s...one of the reasons many buy the PZ2J is because of the preff MM but as a compensation for its hopeless gun it should only face tier 3


 

2) I am not asking for any stat upgrades

 

View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 21 July 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

Wah wah my broken tank isn't as OP as I wanted it to be, wah wah.

Cry me a river will ya.

 

Can confirm though; Type 97 Chi-Ha and Type 91 Heavy can pen it with regular AP, T-70 can pen it easily with gold.

 

you contradict yourself. One point you call it "OP" then you clearly say it can be penned by regular tier 3 tanks....
 

View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 21 July 2018 - 08:40 AM, said:

Yea, buff the sealclubbin monster with more armor than the KV1.

Good job OP,

facepalm :facepalm: prize of the day goes to you.

 

Congratulations!!!!

:medal::playing::medal:

 

Many tier 3s can pen it e.g. all TDs, S35, type 91, m2 medium etc....people pay for good armour but powercreep I guess
 

View PostKillingJoker, on 21 July 2018 - 08:09 AM, said:

I would ratter give it a tier V gun, something like the Hetzer 105mm derp

 

no this would be far too OP
 

mortalsatsuma #17 Posted 21 July 2018 - 09:20 PM

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Haven't played mine in months, it's just gathering dust at this point.

 

Encountered a few today when playing matches in my PZ B2, felt nice to balance one OP tank with another OP tank. 



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 21 July 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

Wah wah my broken tank isn't as OP as I wanted it to be, wah wah.

Cry me a river will ya.

 

Can confirm though; Type 97 Chi-Ha and Type 91 Heavy can pen it with regular AP, T-70 can pen it easily with gold.

 

Little tier 2 Tetrarch can can it too with it's 121mm premium pen :trollface:

Nishi_Kinuyo #19 Posted 22 July 2018 - 10:39 AM

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View Postnahidali91, on 21 July 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 21 July 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

Wah wah my broken tank isn't as OP as I wanted it to be, wah wah.

Cry me a river will ya.

 

Can confirm though; Type 97 Chi-Ha and Type 91 Heavy can pen it with regular AP, T-70 can pen it easily with gold.

 

you contradict yourself. One point you call it "OP" then you clearly say it can be penned by regular tier 3 tanks....

Reading comprehension, darling, reading comprehension.



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View PostTankistu, on 21 July 2018 - 01:31 PM, said:

 

MTLS-1G14, T-127, PzKpfw S35, Somua S35, M3G FT can easily pen Pz2J with APCR.

Marder II with normal ammo.

Valentine AT and Cruiser II can hurt it badly with their tier V guns.

Just to name a few. 

So what seal clubber? 

 

 

If you fail to sealclub with this tank,

I've got bad news for you...

 

 

it's not the tank's fault,

you just suck.







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