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Paul_Kouadio #1 Posted 21 July 2018 - 11:43 PM

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So I was reading an article on The Armored Patrol just now, on the Grille 15 (link right here: https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2018/07/21/wot-new-grille-15/), and I thought back to the craziness that was the WT auf E100 back in the day (I came to know WoT way later). So I want to throw this out there: How would this tank destroyer perform in the current meta of corridors and well armored, mobile tanks? Woud it still be OP? Should it keep its devastating autoloader and other stats, or should it be nerfed/buffed? Or single shot like the Grille? Would it be so popular so as to change the meta completely? Would you like to play with it and against it? I really want to see what you guys think of this :P

 

P.S. I know the article also mentions the IS-4, but let's talk OP tanks :trollface:



Dorander #2 Posted 21 July 2018 - 11:44 PM

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Bring back the WT Auf E100, 'cause we can never have enough reasons to primarily play tier 9!

TheDandyHighwayman #3 Posted 21 July 2018 - 11:51 PM

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Bring it back and give it the Grille 15 gun. Done.

AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #4 Posted 22 July 2018 - 12:13 AM

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Played 99  battles in the waffle and sold it

the minute i think of the Grill15 i feel sick in my stomach the high profile of that tank and the limited turret traverse doesn't fit the paper armor at all ,the special thing about the waffle and borsig you can peak and shoot  quickly even in city maps 

plus you get matched up against bobject(268 v4) which means instant loss for your team:teethhappy: .

so if they don't change that line i am not going back to it :(.


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PervyPastryPuffer #5 Posted 22 July 2018 - 12:46 AM

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Sure, bring it back, deal the finishing blow to this game.

Balc0ra #6 Posted 22 July 2018 - 12:52 AM

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The issue most had with that tank was the burst damage. It could clip a Maus in a few seconds and go back into cover again. It would still be able to do the same now. It usually died fast when spotted before... And it had the worst camo rating in the game. If you gunner did sneeze you got spotted and took a few HE hits and died. 

 

But that was before the armor meta we have now etc. And before the Type 5 gold HE derp. So I suspect if played it the same way today. It would not fair as well. But I suspect it would still create rage topics. 



Andrasan89 #7 Posted 22 July 2018 - 01:31 AM

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since moronic tanks like 268-4, 430U, Type5 and others are HERE ...theres no reason to not add WTF100 back

 

its supreme evidente that wg are totally incompetents at balancing and wont ever be able to balance this game...so just add all possible tanks and have FUN !

 

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shane73tank #8 Posted 22 July 2018 - 06:40 AM

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I remember first encountering one in my tiger 2, at start of game on Siegfried line, I was defending and got absolutely wrecked, from the on I called it the *edited*E100”

Killed a few In my time , would not welcome it back , I fear the super heavies would camp more

Edited by NickMustaine, 22 July 2018 - 01:23 PM.
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LordMuffin #9 Posted 22 July 2018 - 08:57 AM

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Winrate wise, balanced I guess.
But the issue with the tank was the gun.

Xandania #10 Posted 22 July 2018 - 09:09 AM

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View Postshane73tank, on 22 July 2018 - 05:40 AM, said:

I remember first encountering one in my tiger 2, at start of game on Siegfried line, I was defending and got absolutely wrecked, from the on I called it the *edited* E100”

Killed a few In my time , would not welcome it back , I fear the super heavies would camp more

 

Guess so - I remember losing games where loads of damaged tier 8+ tanks tried to take that hidden monster down - and all died to a single doublebushing monster-autoloader....

Really only remember them sitting in the bushes in the back waiting for their teams to fold and then picking up the pieces...



leggasiini #11 Posted 22 July 2018 - 09:13 AM

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It wasn't OP during it's final days, it was just broken, as it was awfully minmaxed and it could still ruin the game of someone in seconds. It actually underperformed for the most part around when it was removed, except for bad players because the clip potential was so massive that one clip of damage was twice (or more) as much damage as that player's average damage at tier 10. Because of that, only the idiots played it and those also were the ones who defended it. It was really OP only when it had 6 shells in the mag, and that got nerfed pretty quickly.

 

These days, in current meta, it would most likely be a giant POS with all the HE, armor buffs and corridor meta, but it would be still broken and unfun to play against. It wouldn't really be fun to play, either. 

There's no reason to introduce it whatsoever; it really brings nothing positive to the game; it's unfun to play with and unfun to play against...which is why I can see WG implement that :hiding:



Snoekiepoeps #12 Posted 22 July 2018 - 10:09 AM

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Serious guys,

 

You really wanne argue about this issue.

 

You guys really don't understand this game....

 

Aslong as the top clans complain about OP tanks they will be nerved, removed or just destroyed.

 

The top clans are affraid of random players with tanks that the top player can kill.

 

WT Auf E100 Asian server : check

Game Consol : Check

 

If they ever would bring back the WT Auf E100 they should make it a reward tank as they did with the Foch 155.

 

After the Foch 155 they brought in the Foch B...or better the known as the WT Auf E100 v2.....6 shells.......high pen....high damage and lots of armor.

 

HBut hey you know what...

 

The top clans had the foch 155 so they got the Foch B and they are not wining about that tank like they did about the WT Auf E100, the Obj 268 v4 and many others.

 

 



FatigueGalaxy #13 Posted 22 July 2018 - 12:41 PM

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View PostAndrasan89, on 22 July 2018 - 01:31 AM, said:

since moronic tanks like 268-4, 430U, Type5 and others are HERE ...theres no reason to not add WTF100 back

 

its supreme evidente that wg are totally incompetents at balancing and wont ever be able to balance this game...so just add all possible tanks and have FUN !

 

:facepalm:

 

You don't get it at all, do you?

268v4 and 430U are just too good. Type 5 is annoying (derp gun), out of place (tier 10 is supposed to be competitive - no skill HE guns don't belong here) and kinda p2w (premium HE). WT E-100 was broken. That's different than "overpowered". It could clip the entire tank before it could turn the turret and it could also die under 10 seconds if spotted. They wanted to balance extreme firepower with extreme fragility but this doesn't work. And new, OP tanks didn't change that.



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View PostSnoekiepoeps, on 22 July 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

Serious guys,

 

You really wanne argue about this issue.

 

You guys really don't understand this game....

 

Aslong as the top clans complain about OP tanks they will be nerved, removed or just destroyed.

 

The top clans are affraid of random players with tanks that the top player can kill.

 

WT Auf E100 Asian server : check

Game Consol : Check

 

If they ever would bring back the WT Auf E100 they should make it a reward tank as they did with the Foch 155.

 

After the Foch 155 they brought in the Foch B...or better the known as the WT Auf E100 v2.....6 shells.......high pen....high damage and lots of armor.

 

HBut hey you know what...

 

The top clans had the foch 155 so they got the Foch B and they are not wining about that tank like they did about the WT Auf E100, the Obj 268 v4 and many others.

 

 

 

Um, the WT is not on the Asia server, it’s on the Chinese server and I believe costs 100 euros.

And I’m not even going to bother with the first bs you wrote.


Edited by TsundereWaffle, 22 July 2018 - 12:59 PM.


leggasiini #15 Posted 22 July 2018 - 01:13 PM

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View PostSnoekiepoeps, on 22 July 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

 

 

After the Foch 155 they brought in the Foch B...or better the known as the WT Auf E100 v2.....6 shells.......high pen....high damage and lots of armor.

 

>foch B

>high pen

 

haahhaahhahahahaa

 

What you said is about as accurate as saying that FV4005 has good armor


Edited by leggasiini, 22 July 2018 - 01:14 PM.


the_nebuchadnezzar #16 Posted 22 July 2018 - 01:18 PM

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WT Auf E100 was my second tier 10 and I sucked playing it. Also, it was the reason I created my first forum thread. It was scarry and stupid at the same time. Still, I would love to have it back in the game. Broken? Sure it will be, but there are many broken tanks out there so one more won't be an issue.

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View PostSnoekiepoeps, on 22 July 2018 - 10:09 AM, said:

Serious guys,

 

You really wanne argue about this issue.

 

You guys really don't understand this game....

 

Aslong as the top clans complain about OP tanks they will be nerved, removed or just destroyed.

 

The top clans are affraid of random players with tanks that the top player can kill.

 

WT Auf E100 Asian server : check

Game Consol : Check

 

If they ever would bring back the WT Auf E100 they should make it a reward tank as they did with the Foch 155.

 

After the Foch 155 they brought in the Foch B...or better the known as the WT Auf E100 v2.....6 shells.......high pen....high damage and lots of armor.

 

HBut hey you know what...

 

The top clans had the foch 155 so they got the Foch B and they are not wining about that tank like they did about the WT Auf E100, the Obj 268 v4 and many others.

 

 

 

Foch B high pen?

You must be high because it has by far the lowest pen of all T10 TDs and a big weakspot on top that can be penned by tier 7s with standard ammo.

https://tanks.gg/com...10e3~wz-113g-ft

You are just grasping straws to get a broken tank back ingame.


Edited by AvengerOrion, 22 July 2018 - 01:34 PM.


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View PostFatigueGalaxy, on 22 July 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

 

You don't get it at all, do you?

268v4 and 430U are just too good. Type 5 is annoying (derp gun), out of place (tier 10 is supposed to be competitive - no skill HE guns don't belong here) and kinda p2w (premium HE). WT E-100 was broken. That's different than "overpowered". It could clip the entire tank before it could turn the turret and it could also die under 10 seconds if spotted. They wanted to balance extreme firepower with extreme fragility but this doesn't work. And new, OP tanks didn't change that.

 

and what means what you said if not OP just like WTF100?

268-4 and 430 too good...that means op, Type..just annoying? Dont think so...it has NO WEAKPOINTS STILL, ammo is pure p2w and deal damage on ANY target and ANY position. Yes, ruin competition and balance overall but thats nothing else than OP again and P2W ! You do damage without penetration and enemy CANT pen you in return (unless they PAY MORE to gain some chances :facepalm: . )

Atleast with WTF100 you had to pen your shots, just like any other autoloader...if you miss some shots your potential is drastically decreased, after that you have a very long reload time and vulnerability...so this creation really HAD DRAWBACKS, not like those new moronic OPs.

Wasnt that op in fact like those new stupidities...it has just HUGE potential..but you still had to use it corectly, not just pressing W and finish game with 6k damage...

 

You know what...balancing huge firepower with huge fragility wasnt such a bad idea.

But balancing moronic armor with p2w gold ammo it really is the worst balance ever...:facepalm:

 

potential firepower (autoloaders) and fragility still involve some skills and knowledge to be used...like on WTF100...but lack of weakpoints and p2w guns really dont invovle anything than MONEY.

What is more broken??

:facepalm:


Edited by Andrasan89, 22 July 2018 - 03:10 PM.


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View PostSnoekiepoeps, on 22 July 2018 - 10:09 AM, said:

Aslong as the top clans complain about OP tanks they will be nerved, removed or just destroyed.

 

Top clans? It's the lobsters on RU that decides that's gets buffed or removed more so then not. Why do you think the IS-3 got the magical side armor buff. It's because it had a 42% WR on RU and the bad players did whine about a buff. Not because it was doing well on EU.  It was not the top clans that complained about the T-22 either, it was the bad players that could not counter it. That and top clans have actually complained about the 907. But yet... it remains the same. 

 

View PostSnoekiepoeps, on 22 July 2018 - 10:09 AM, said:

WT Auf E100 Asian server : check

Game Consol : Check

 

Chinese server is not run my WG. Nor is the console version. They are both run independently with full access to the dev server. They can add any tank they find there if they wish.  And it's up to them to decide if it should be removed or not. Not WG. WG only bought up Day 1 studios that made the 360 version of WOT back in the day and put it under a WG name. But they still don't run it as such. 

 

View PostSnoekiepoeps, on 22 July 2018 - 10:09 AM, said:

After the Foch 155 they brought in the Foch B...or better the known as the WT Auf E100 v2.....6 shells.......high pen....high damage and lots of armor.

 

 

Foch B has lots of pen? The pen is the most common complaint about it. As it's the lowest of any tier X TD. And even beaten by tier X meds. And yes everyone did whine about that tank being OP during CT. But how many topics about it have you seen about that tank after it went live? Or even when was the last time you did see one driving around? Even bad players complained about the WT auf E100. No one has complained about the Foch B since it went live when ppl did realize it was terrible. There is a reason why it's not popular.


Edited by Balc0ra, 22 July 2018 - 02:39 PM.


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just add the object 297 with full specs. and the wtf e100 and wtf maus or grille maus.

 

there you go bye bye balance.






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