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Zinomov #1 Posted 22 July 2018 - 10:39 PM

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WoT – “New” Grille 15

Source: Rykoszet

As early as August 9th, 2017, the devs stated they’d want to replace the Grille 15. They’re probably close to that change, since in the 1.0.2 CT, we have a new icon.

Dev diaries, August 9th, 2017:

There were a lot of questions regarding the Grille. We were really close to implementing another variant in 9.20 or the next one. We honestly admit that we decided not to hasten it. We have to test more variants in internal tests. That means that drastic changes, or maybe swapping for another tank, should be expected at the end of the year.

 

This is the icon on the CT

G121_Grille_15_L63.png

Some time ago WG wanted to make some changes in the IS-4 heavy line, swapping their places.

The IS-4 in-game now has a different turret.

R90_IS_4M.png

And this is how the ST-I looks like

R63_ST_I.png

Bonus Waffletraeger

G98_Waffentrager_E100_P.png

shot_510.jpg

 

Edited by Zinomov, 22 July 2018 - 10:40 PM.


PervyPastryPuffer #2 Posted 22 July 2018 - 10:44 PM

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G.W. Panther 15 :amazed:

 

It's so similar, the gun shield in particular.



Nishi_Kinuyo #3 Posted 22 July 2018 - 10:44 PM

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Wouldn't surprise me if they just messed up with the icons instead.

The Type 5 Chi-Ri is show having the 8.8cm KwK 36 L/56 that it never, ever, had.

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Zinomov #4 Posted 22 July 2018 - 10:50 PM

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that's messed up

+ that IS-4 seem to have the IS-M turret

Edited by Zinomov, 22 July 2018 - 10:51 PM.


Enforcer1975 #5 Posted 22 July 2018 - 11:18 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 22 July 2018 - 10:44 PM, said:

Wouldn't surprise me if they just messed up with the icons instead.

The Type 5 Chi-Ri is show having the 8.8cm KwK 36 L/56 that it never, ever, had.

Spoiler

 

Wouldn't be that bad since i'm currently grinding it. I was reluctant grinding through the Chi Nu at first but tbh i never had so much fun today power grinding through the Chi Nu and doing XP fever on the Chi Nu Kai. But it could also have to do with the fact that i have 17k battles more experience than i did back then when i bought them. Both tanks aren't as bad as i remember them. They still don't stand a chance in most one vs one situations though but that's ok. 


Edited by Enforcer1975, 22 July 2018 - 11:20 PM.


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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 22 July 2018 - 10:44 PM, said:

Wouldn't surprise me if they just messed up with the icons instead.

The Type 5 Chi-Ri is show having the 8.8cm KwK 36 L/56 that it never, ever, had.

Spoiler

 

 

Lotta tanks in WoT which have guns they never, ever, had...and people don't know how to play the Chi-Ri currently so if this image is in fact not a mess-up and is actually a real thing they're working on, then...well I already answered the question in the first part of my sentence.

Xandania #7 Posted 23 July 2018 - 08:34 AM

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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 22 July 2018 - 11:06 PM, said:

 

Lotta tanks in WoT which have guns they never, ever, had...and people don't know how to play the Chi-Ri currently so if this image is in fact not a mess-up and is actually a real thing they're working on, then...well I already answered the question in the first part of my sentence.

 

As long as they keep the current guns on the tank i don't really care - but I strongly dislike unique tanks getting one of the many ^^

Simeon85 #8 Posted 23 July 2018 - 08:59 AM

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The Grille 15 has been problematic since they brought it in so wouldn't surprise me if they are overhauling it.

 

I mean it's not as bad as the Waffle it replaced, but it was OP when they brought it in, then they nerfed it and at the same time the meta shifted, so now it's pretty weak.

 

If they gave it a full turret and better camo it might be enough to make it balanced. 

 

Why it has like half the camo of the bobject and less camo than the E3 as a completely paper tank is beyond me. You don;t have to make it Swedish TD broken levels of camo, but similar camo to say a tier 10 med at like 14% or something would be fine I reckon. 



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View PostZinomov, on 22 July 2018 - 10:50 PM, said:

that's messed up

+ that IS-4 seem to have the IS-M turret

 

P sure it is actually the stock ST-I turret (Sight bulge on the right hand side of the gun)

KillingJoker #10 Posted 23 July 2018 - 02:22 PM

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Bizarre look on that IS-4...

 

the turret looks exacly like an IS one but without commander hatch, and the gun is the 122mm of the IS, that also the IS-4. (but naturally no one uses...)

 

i really wonder what they will do with it, since the IS-4 is obviously with the current state of the game at tier X, don't notice anything different on the ST-I, 

 

also, the new Grille 15 "turret" may sugest there is more mechanism than only the gun... (autoloader?) 



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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 22 July 2018 - 09:44 PM, said:

G.W. Panther 15 :amazed:

 

It's so similar, the gun shield in particular.

Well, the GW Panther that we have in game was also called the Grille 15 IRL so its not too far of a stretch to assume that it'll be the same chassis (it could also be an unhistorical up-gunning of the Grille 12, which was basically the in-game gw panther but with a 12.8cm.)

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View PostZinomov, on 22 July 2018 - 11:50 PM, said:

+ that IS-4 seem to have the IS-M turret

Nope, it has the Object 701 turret, which is the stock turret of the ST-I.



Nishi_Kinuyo #13 Posted 23 July 2018 - 05:08 PM

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View PostXandania, on 23 July 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

 

As long as they keep the current guns on the tank i don't really care - but I strongly dislike unique tanks getting one of the many ^^

Even if it were to get an 8.8cm, I doubt it'd be the german Kwk 36 L/56.

I'm not sure if Japan ever got the blueprints for that one, and the only other 8.8cm the Japanese got is an AA one derived from a German SK C/30, and neither had muzzle brakes, afaik.

So it wouldn't make sense for Japan to randomly slap one on; there's only two guns in their entire arsenal that had them:

The Type 3 7.5cm Tank Gun has one, along with the Type 90 7.5cm field gun it was based on, but that one is in turn based off French 8.5cm cannon, which has a muzzle brake.

 

Reference material:

http://www.navweaps....mm-45_skc30.php

https://en.wikipedia...99_88_mm_AA_gun

https://en.wikipedia..._1927_Schneider

https://en.wikipedia..._75mm_field_gun

https://en.wikipedia...3_75mm_tank_gun



the_nebuchadnezzar #14 Posted 23 July 2018 - 05:14 PM

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Did I just saw a Waffle? Is this real? I hope it is and WG give me back my WTF Auf E100.

suvicze #15 Posted 23 July 2018 - 05:49 PM

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I dont really care how the grille will look like but it needs proper buff. Gun handling is a complete joke.. It is way worse than T5 heavies with derp gun...Seriously who thought that 0.25, 0.29, 0.38 is appropriate for T10 td without full turret, with crap pen, no armor and no camo... 

Camo should go up considerably.

soft stats should be on the level or better than T9 wt pz4 with 12,8 which has 0.19 0.19 0.12 with full turret

penetration should go up as well to like 350 apcr with 1400+ shell velocity/370 heat considering most T10 td have around 390 premium pen and higher base pen

top speed can easily be reduced to 40-45

reverspeed up to 18-20 considering it has no armor.



Luchs_Luthor #16 Posted 23 July 2018 - 07:14 PM

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I recently sold the Grille 15 because it was so bad although I will be very upset if they change the IS-4 to look like that. It was my first TX and even though it is probably the weakest TX Heavy right now I still love it more than the rest.




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