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PlasticArmour #1 Posted 23 July 2018 - 11:07 AM

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So when are they going to fix this awful tier 8 mm? just got amx64t, played 10 and 8 of those are in a tier 8-10 battle, real fun with a stock tank. It seem to be an exercise in self abuse to even attempt to go past tier 7 now. Still, there's always spending money on free xp to help grind isn't there? Great business plan, lousy customer care. 

 

A message to the developers, as if you ever see any of this. Get rid of those you put in charge of wot economy, they're bleeding out your customers will to carry on. They couldn't give a rats arse if this game dies, they only want to make a quick buck and move on to the next bunch of suckers.



iztok #2 Posted 23 July 2018 - 11:39 AM

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> So when are they going to fix this awful tier 8 mm? just got amx64t, played 10 and 8 of those are in a tier 8-10 battle

8 out of 10? You were lucky. :ohmy:


Edited by iztok, 23 July 2018 - 11:39 AM.


Isharial #3 Posted 23 July 2018 - 11:41 AM

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View PostPlasticArmour, on 23 July 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

So when are they going to fix this awful tier 8 mm? just got amx64t, played 10 and 8 of those are in a tier 8-10 battle, real fun with a stock tank. It seem to be an exercise in self abuse to even attempt to go past tier 7 now. Still, there's always spending money on free xp to help grind isn't there? Great business plan, lousy customer care. 

 

A message to the developers, as if you ever see any of this. Get rid of those you put in charge of wot economy, they're bleeding out your customers will to carry on. They couldn't give a rats arse if this game dies, they only want to make a quick buck and move on to the next bunch of suckers.

 

is this a rant about the MM everyone gets or a rant about the worst T8 in the game? 

 

even if all you saw was T6, the 65T is probably the most awful grind you'll ever go through



Balc0ra #4 Posted 23 July 2018 - 11:58 AM

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View PostPlasticArmour, on 23 July 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

So when are they going to fix this awful tier 8 mm? just got amx64t, played 10 and 8 of those are in a tier 8-10 battle, real fun with a stock tank. It seem to be an exercise in self abuse to even attempt to go past tier 7 now. Still, there's always spending money on free xp to help grind isn't there? Great business plan, lousy customer care. 

 

To be fair, the tank is best stock. Stock gun is better. And the stock turret is better due to the smaller size and more cheek and side armor.  Top turret has a massive weak spot that's not gonna bounce anything in a +1 or 2 game. That and it don't matter what you face. It's still one of the worst tier 8 HT's around.  It's the TVP VTU of HT's. 

 

They need more then to fix tier 8 MM to help that tank. If you want to talk about a crappy stock grind to waste free XP on. Just wait until you get the tier 9 with the stock turret that bounces nothing. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 23 July 2018 - 12:03 PM.


Tankyouverymuch2 #5 Posted 23 July 2018 - 12:22 PM

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You wanna know what I'm thinking? I think the fact most of the playerbase have disabled Grand Battles is causing the ridiculous amount of tier 8-10 matches. If more tier 10 tanks were to enter Grand Battles, surely it would decrease the amount of tier 10 battles for tier 8 tanks.

 

Solution: Don't make Grand Battles an option, FORCE IT to be always on.

 

There's a new Grand Battle map in the works, that'll be 3 in total.



wEight_Tanker #6 Posted 23 July 2018 - 12:24 PM

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Just posting before a mod locks this and redirects to the mm thread.

unhappy_bunny #7 Posted 23 July 2018 - 12:36 PM

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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 23 July 2018 - 11:22 AM, said:

You wanna know what I'm thinking? I think the fact most of the playerbase have disabled Grand Battles is causing the ridiculous amount of tier 8-10 matches. If more tier 10 tanks were to enter Grand Battles, surely it would decrease the amount of tier 10 battles for tier 8 tanks.

 

Solution: Don't make Grand Battles an option, FORCE IT to be always on.

 

There's a new Grand Battle map in the works, that'll be 3 in total.

 

Or it could be that there are more players choosing T8 tanks than other tiers.

 

Less T10's could mean less all TX or less TX/T9 battles but more TX/9/8's because, lets say you have 12 spare TX, thats 2 x 3/5//7 battles or 1 x 5/10 battles, whereas, 12 x T8's cant fit the requirements of bottom tier. The answer could be for less players to pick T8's. 



KillingJoker #8 Posted 23 July 2018 - 02:36 PM

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trust me, the problem of the Amx 65t, is not the mm... 

 

 



HQ65 #9 Posted 23 July 2018 - 02:44 PM

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Rememeber FrontLine? All Tier 8 tanks....That was really awesome, every game with, for the most, equal tanks.

 

When I get in the rare game with all Tier 8 tanks, i sort of look back to the great games in Frontline.

 

Why can't they just have all tanks play against the same tiers.  I know someone will answer and say, that the wait times may be longer. But I would rather wait 30 more seconds in the garage and have a FAIR, Fun fight, then to run around for 10 minutes shaking my head. 

 

 



Balc0ra #10 Posted 23 July 2018 - 02:53 PM

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View PostHQ65, on 23 July 2018 - 02:44 PM, said:

Rememeber FrontLine? All Tier 8 tanks....That was really awesome, every game with, for the most, equal tanks.

 

When I get in the rare game with all Tier 8 tanks, i sort of look back to the great games in Frontline.

 

That was only due to map size and that you had more then enough tanks for one role on a flank that it worked. As even the IS-6 with his 175mm pen could be flexible there with AP only. Even the CDC was fun on FL. Equal tier 8 games in randoms on the other hand... Are the worst. Mostly due to balance issues, the super heavy meta, and corridors. As the sub 200 pen T32 can't be as flexible vs a HT line full of Defenders, Patriots and 100.01's with no room to move. 

 

Pure tier 8 games is why I don't play my IS-6 that much anymore, or most of my tier 8's. Leading us back to 3-5-7 causing issues. As tier 8 was way better before that came. 

 

View PostHQ65, on 23 July 2018 - 02:44 PM, said:

Why can't they just have all tanks play against the same tiers.  I know someone will answer and say, that the wait times may be longer. But I would rather wait 30 more seconds in the garage and have a FAIR, Fun fight, then to run around for 10 minutes shaking my head.

 

Some tiers are fun in +0 games true. Like tier 7 or 9. Others don't work too well due to major balance issues. WG removed tier 12 MM back in the day. And it shows why now. Tho WG have said that equal tier games on tier 4 have even shown issues. And why that tier is on the list of their next balance targets. 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 23 July 2018 - 02:59 PM.


vasilinhorulezz #11 Posted 23 July 2018 - 04:56 PM

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Actually, instead of selling reserves,

WG should start selling MM tweaks for WOT,

like, for 100 matches you'll be top tier for 2k gold

or, for 100 matches you won't meet +2 for 1k gold,

or, 50 arty free games for 500 gold,

that's how you make a profit WG, that's how.

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Stereoscope #12 Posted 23 July 2018 - 06:10 PM

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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 23 July 2018 - 11:22 AM, said:

You wanna know what I'm thinking? I think the fact most of the playerbase have disabled Grand Battles is causing the ridiculous amount of tier 8-10 matches. If more tier 10 tanks were to enter Grand Battles, surely it would decrease the amount of tier 10 battles for tier 8 tanks.

 

Solution: Don't make Grand Battles an option, FORCE IT to be always on.

 

There's a new Grand Battle map in the works, that'll be 3 in total.

 

And I thought I had seen the most stupid thing this month.  We have a new winner.

 



Tankyouverymuch2 #13 Posted 23 July 2018 - 06:16 PM

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View PostStereoscope, on 23 July 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

 

And I thought I had seen the most stupid thing this month.  We have a new winner.

 

 

You do see the time this was posted at, right? I had only been awake for no more than 30 minutes... :hiding: My brain needs to warm up before I can think straight.

Bordhaw #14 Posted 23 July 2018 - 07:35 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 23 July 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

 

Or it could be that there are more players choosing T8 tanks than other tiers.

 

Less T10's could mean less all TX or less TX/T9 battles but more TX/9/8's because, lets say you have 12 spare TX, thats 2 x 3/5//7 battles or 1 x 5/10 battles, whereas, 12 x T8's cant fit the requirements of bottom tier. The answer could be for less players to pick T8's. 

 

The T10 playerbase is not that big and given the continuing drop off of players then it would be logical to say that T10 is even less played. 

Aimless #15 Posted 23 July 2018 - 09:21 PM

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View PostBordhaw, on 23 July 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

 

The T10 playerbase is not that big and given the continuing drop off of players then it would be logical to say that T10 is even less played. 

 

So we should have a new -1 MM especially for tier 10. It can only meet tier 9 an other tier 10 tanks, if at all. Actually I don't see any point in matching them against weaker opponents.

 

That way, WG would also solve their "problem" with the PMM tier 8 tanks immediately. Less work with rebalancing tanks, more room for useful development.

 

What do I win? :)






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