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ironraven9 #1 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:01 PM

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I dont know what Wg is thinking  more than destroying  there own game. for example Elec Even 90 is a pain due to its speed and it lights up almost everyting

Its to fast to snapp shot  and have too much hit points to kill in two shoots.

 

Many tanks in the game have problem with traversing and turning the turret around an keeping to try aiming at it. WG tries to get to speedup the game to  be like CS-GO, but instead is slowly killing there own game this way. its becoming a Booming around game....

 

This is also a way to nerf old premium tanks that player bought.

 



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You're joking right?

ironraven9 #3 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:04 PM

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NO,  You cant move if that CRAP gets in a bush....

 

Have you played a game were that tank sits in a bush all game or flies arond the map and all the team  tries to hit it form a distance ?


Edited by ironraven9, 23 July 2018 - 03:06 PM.


RamRaid90 #4 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:08 PM

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View Postironraven9, on 23 July 2018 - 04:04 PM, said:

NO,  You cant move if that CRAP gets in a bush....

 

Have you played a game were that tank sits in a bush all game or flies arond the map and all the team  tries to hit it form a distance ?

 

Isn't that the same with any light tank or cheese wedge? 

Enforcer1975 #6 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:09 PM

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You can't move when a LT spots for the enemy team....you can't move when arty is in the game....you can't move when TDs are red lining...yada yada yada....

Even 90 is one of the worst tanks except it's camo...



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View Postironraven9, on 23 July 2018 - 02:04 PM, said:

NO,  You cant move if that CRAP gets in a bush....

 

Have you played a game were that tank sits in a bush all game or flies arond the map and all the team  tries to hit it form a distance ?

 

If you suspect there's a passive spotter, peek over a ridge and drop back, wait if Sixth Sense goes off to confirm the spotter.

 

At the start of the game, counter-scout likely positions it'll go to.

 

Don't advance the west flank of Prokhorovka if you're 30-60 seconds in the match and the ELC is still not spotted, for a more practical example.

 

This isn't Elc even unique though, any decent scout set up for it can spot passively like this, it's just scout play that you need to learn to counter.



Balc0ra #8 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:12 PM

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View Postironraven9, on 23 July 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:

Its to fast to snapp shot  and have too much hit points to kill in two shoots.

View Postironraven9, on 23 July 2018 - 03:04 PM, said:

Have you played a game were that tank sits in a bush all game or flies arond the map and all the team  tries to hit it form a distance ?

 

 

You basically just explained every scout on tier 6+. Heck even my Swedish Leo had done that when passive spotting and bullying. What's your point? 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 23 July 2018 - 03:14 PM.


Cobra6 #9 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:13 PM

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View Postironraven9, on 23 July 2018 - 02:01 PM, said:

 

Its to fast to snapp shot  and have too much hit points to kill in two shoots.

 

 

 

For this statement alone you're completely disqualified from further discussing in this thread.

 

The EVEN90 has some of the worst gun handling imaginable on a higher tier light tank and atrocious DPM, if there is something it can definitely not do is snapshot.

It's also not mobile, again it's acceleration is among the worst of higher tier light tanks.

It's health, again, is one of the lowest among higher tier light tanks.

 

If you have no clue what you are talking about, read up on statistics, tank information and try to learn instead of coming to the forum, spouting obvious nonsense and getting smacked down for it.

 

The ELC EVEN90 can only spot targets by driving around or standing in a bush because it's camo is great. As soon as it fires it's gun things go downhill.

To become competitive in the current game meta the EVEN90 should be buffed in these areas:

-DPM up to 1700-1800 base minimum.

-Light tank gun handling similar to other T8 light tanks.

-Mobility can stay the same or a slight increase in engine horsepower only.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 23 July 2018 - 03:17 PM.


ironraven9 #10 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:19 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 23 July 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

 

For this statement alone you're completely disqualified from further discussing in this thread.

 

The EVEN90 has some of the worst gun handling imaginable on a higher tier light tank and atrocious DPM, if there is something it can definitely not do is snapshot.

It's also not mobile, again it's acceleration is among the worst of higher tier light tanks.

It's health, again, is one of the lowest among higher tier light tanks.

 

If you have no clue what you are talking about, read up on statistics, tank information and try to learn instead of coming to the forum, spouting obvious nonsense and getting smacked down for it.

 

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YOU got it the worng way... when it got its speed up it flies around  you  10-20 meter from you AND they dont need to aim. The you try to turn around fast.....

 

And when it spots you, his team mates destroys you as sixth sence gose off.... ( Statistics is not everything.....)

 

 

and 60-70 km/h si slow ???? trie to play a stock tank that goes 25-30 km/h and turns like as snail


Edited by ironraven9, 23 July 2018 - 03:21 PM.


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Funny fact about the ELC Even 90... 

 

I needed around 10k combined and 1600 base experience to actually ace mine... 

http://wotreplays.eu...e/4450722#teams

 

Meaning, despite the tank is considered poor, its not really easy to master it, because the ELC does have a very high ceiling of performance.

 

Its the only tank i can decide any battle in Malinovka by just going strait to the enemy base, right after battle starts, light up everything without being spotted, and decide the battle seconds after the start... there is no other tank that can do the same, not even the T100 LT



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View Postironraven9, on 23 July 2018 - 03:19 PM, said:

And when it spots you, his team mates destroys you as sixth sence gose off.... ( Statistics is not everything.....)

 

So your E25 fine then? No issue with the camo on that? As that's more or less the same at times with regard to camo and bullying alone. Tho equally situational.

 

But as you said.

 

View Postironraven9, on 23 July 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:

This is also a way to nerf old premium tanks that player bought.

 

Or is that tank different? As many feel the same way about the E25 as you do with the ELC. Tho... this is the first rant topic about the ELC. As most actually want it buffed. 



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View Postironraven9, on 23 July 2018 - 02:01 PM, said:

I dont know what Wg is thinking  more than destroying  there own game. for example Elec Even 90 is a pain due to its speed and it lights up almost everyting

Its to fast to snapp shot  and have too much hit points to kill in two shoots.

 

Many tanks in the game have problem with traversing and turning the turret around an keeping to try aiming at it. WG tries to get to speedup the game to  be like CS-GO, but instead is slowly killing there own game this way. its becoming a Booming around game....

 

This is also a way to nerf old premium tanks that player bought.

 

 

clickbait at its best

Thejagdpanther #15 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:30 PM

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Nothing to whine about, but also nothing to cry for buffs.

 



Jigabachi #16 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:34 PM

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A light tank destroys the game.

A light tank that can only do its job on 3 out of all the maps.

A light tank that is, like all the other ones of its kind, so much out of meta that people only play those tanks for fun.

A light tank, that is pretty much one of the only few light tanks that isn't completely outrun, outgunned and outwhatevered by every other tank in the game.

A light tank that can do what you described in 1 out of 100 matches.

A light tank destroys the game. Sure.

 

It's good, but it's far from gamebreaking. Very far.

Congratulations on being THAT wrong. That needs some dedication.



Mr_Burrows #17 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:42 PM

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*sheer amazement* 

 

EVEN destroys... Eh... What? I mean.. how? Sorta...? Hmm. Just... I really cannot... Eh?  :confused: EVEN destroys game? EVEN?! 

 

 

Omg. And OP still has over 20K games. :mellow:



Simeon85 #18 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:52 PM

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'Too hard to snap shot' - You shouldn't be able to easily snap shot light tanks, that is whole point. They need that mobility/size/camo because they have no armour and low hit points, those attributes are tools you need to actually survive as most lights can be one shot/two shot easily by a lot of tanks they face. 

 

I have never found the Even 90 that hard to hit despite it's small size, it's not that fast thanks to more like medium tank levels of hp/ton and gun handling at tier 7-10 is generally a lot better than lower tiers.

 

I played some tier 3 yesterday cos a mate was grinding it and I find the Pz 1C far more difficult to hit than any even 90, it's faster, is also very small but crucially gun handling and shell velocities on those tiers are terrible, so trying hit a Pz1c is IMO way harder than trying hit an Even 90. 

 

End of the day it's a light tank so is default not OP and it's a very situational light tank as well, with most of the other tier 8 lights whilst being bigger, with less camo are much better all rounders and will dominate an Even 90 outside bush camping. 


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ironraven9 #19 Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:56 PM

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View PostThejagdpanther, on 23 July 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

Nothing to whine about, but also nothing to cry for buffs.

 

 

Compare it  to other lights....

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Also it's turret turns way too fast and its acceleration is also too fast but worst of all it has too many hit points and also wayyyy to much armour, also when I shoot gold at it I expect to pen every tank with every shot, I support Hillary for president 2020

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